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US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests
    #1397415 - 03/21/03 05:28 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A285-2003Mar20.html

Reuters
Thursday, March 20, 2003; 8:32 PM

By Adam Tanner


SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Police arrested more than 1,000 people in San Francisco on Thursday -- the most demonstrators taken into custody on a single day in the city in 22 years -- as tens of thousands protested across America against the U.S. war in Iraq.

"If this was happening in every city, there would either be martial law or an end to war," said one Berkeley student who chained himself to 16 others on a major San Francisco street.

Protests took place in other cities across the United States as well as in European capitals.

During morning rush hour in the Washington D.C., more than 100 demonstrators temporarily shut down the Key Bridge, a major route from Virginia into Washington's Georgetown neighborhood and three were arrested.

About 100 protesters later gathered in pouring rain on the streets near the White House, and about 350 demonstrators blocked evening rush hour traffic on a main Washington thoroughfare.

In New York, which took the brunt of the September 11, 2001 attack that President Bush has repeatedly cited as an example of the threat to America, "September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows" condemned what they called an illegal and immoral U.S. war.

Anti-war demonstrators overflowed police barriers during rush hour in Times Square, completely shutting New York's Broadway for two blocks below 42nd Street.

"A year and a half ago you were heroes," one onlooker shouted as police forcibly led away one demonstrator. "Don't become our enemies."

SUPPORT FOR TROOPS

Under sunny skies and temperatures in the mid-60s F, San Francisco protesters started early and continued strongly through the evening in actions aimed at choking off traffic across the city.

Police in riot gear made at least 1,000 arrests, and the numbers continued to rise into the evening, a spokeswoman said, adding it was the highest total in San Francisco in 22 years. Some were kept in temporary pens erected on the street.

Many towns in America displayed support for the troops, albeit in a quieter way. Towns like Waxahachie, south of Dallas, put up yellow ribbons in support of U.S. troops.

Some yelled in other cities at the protesters.

"They are nothing but traitors. This does nothing but give aid and support to the enemy," said Debbie Petee in San Francisco, a Bush supporter.

Protesters across that nation said opposing war was not at odds with being an American patriot. "It's not like we're burning flags," said Danielle Geroux, a student at an anti-war rally at Florida's capital, Tallahassee. "We just don't want people to die."

Vietnam veteran Mike Ward, 56, who participated in protest marches in the 1960s, wore his combat ribbons in San Francisco so that no one would question his patriotism.

HISSES AT HARVARD

Students gathered at campuses across the nation, including at Harvard University, where hundreds walked out of classes at noon and at least 1,500 people gathered at a rally.

Students at California's Berkeley campus, a hotbed of dissent against the Vietnam War in the 1960s and early 1970s, occupied the main administration building for several hours before at least 120 were arrested,

Police in Pittsburgh fought with some protesters and arrested dozens.

At San Francisco's Federal Courthouse, at least two protesters took medicine that induced them to vomit. Some in the crowd flew Iraqi, Palestinian and French flags. In some areas, police charged protesters to carry them off. Sparks flew as officials sawed through chains linking protesters. Some of the city's fabled cable cars were halted.

In Madison, Wisconsin, a traditional hotbed of protest, police investigated vandalism at the state Republican party headquarters on Wednesday night in which a half-dozen windows were broken and paint bombs were tossed around.

The war also clouded the upcoming Academy Awards. California's governor on Thursday assigned a National Guard unit to protect the Oscars, but at least one prominent star withdrew from the ceremonies, saying now was not the time to celebrate. Will Smith pulled out of Sunday's ceremony and other stars including Dustin Hoffman said they will wear peace sign pins, doves and even duct tape to protest the war in Iraq. More than 100,000 protested in Germany. In London, thousands of British anti-war campaigners blocked roads and scuffled with police. More than 10,000 people, mostly students, surged through Paris chanting anti-war slogans and some burned the U.S. flag.

Reuters

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397446 - 03/21/03 05:37 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

pattern writes:

America: Land of the free? Not anymore.

People have the right to assemble freely and express their opinions.

They do not have the right to destroy property, obstruct public thoroughfares, trespass on private property, etc.

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1397503 - 03/21/03 05:53 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

^^^^^ What he said.

Throw the dumb fucks in jail.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1397516 - 03/21/03 05:56 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

That is true, but it will be interesting to see how the Homeland Security Act will change everything. I don't like uninformed pacifist protesters. Theres nothing wrong with being Anti-war, as long as you have a better solution. Just don't throw old the ol' "war is bad, hug everyone" bullshit. I would be anti-war all the way but I don't have a realistic solution that would take care of things so I can't complain. Just my two cents.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397564 - 03/21/03 06:05 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

i guess that's what happens when the crowd blocks traffic, throws bricks, rebar, bicycles and other materials at the police and into traffic. All 1000 of those arrested should be bitch slapped because they are giving those that are peacfully protesting a VERY bad name.

Please tell me you're not defending them.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1397621 - 03/21/03 06:17 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

These aren't riots. They are peace protests. In a free country they let the protests run until people get bored and go home.

Its only in the USA and other warring countries that they are mass-arresting protesters.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397626 - 03/21/03 06:19 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

If the protesters want to be taken serisously, they should refrain from acts of vandalism and violence. Otherwise they appear to be nothing but hypocrites and spoiled middle class socialist brats.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Evolving]
    #1397638 - 03/21/03 06:21 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

That true... but Im not sure where you are getting the impression that all of these protesters are rioting.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397647 - 03/21/03 06:23 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

These aren't riots. They are peace protests.



then what do you call throwing these materials? It was a riot. Peace protests are not an excuse to have social disobediance, peace protest should contain NO violence in an area that does not hamper the portion od society that doesn't want to participate. Basically they're pushing their beliefs through duress, and it's failing miserably.

Quote:

Its only in the USA and other warring countries that they are mass-arresting protesters.



see above.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397683 - 03/21/03 06:33 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

There is a big difference between a peace protest and a peaceful protest. Do not confuse the two. I agree with everybody else. You cannot block traffic, or destroy property. Two big "no-no's". Blocking traffic is actually pretty dangerous to public safety, and looting and destroying property can incite a riot. Your ass should be thrown in jail for doing that shit. It's not like the police were beating the protestors like at the '68 Dem. Nat'l Convention. You break the law, you go to jail.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1397729 - 03/21/03 06:50 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

Any protest that is over 100 people blocks traffic. I'm not aware of all the laws in the US. If that is illegal, then I stand by my statement: America is no longer the land of the free. I can protest on the streets in Canada, and block traffic, without getting arrested.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397732 - 03/21/03 06:52 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

That's too bad.

Why should you be able to block traffic and fuck up other peoples day?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397753 - 03/21/03 07:04 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

Any protest that is over 100 people blocks traffic.

Lol, what? How does any protest that is over 100 people have to block traffic? Is this some sort of unwritten rule that I am unaware of? There are plenty of protests and rallies that are well in excess of 10000 people that are peaceful and do not block traffic. Don't be retarded.

America is no longer the land of the free.

You are not free to block traffic as A, it's a matter of public safety, and B, you are imposing upon the rights of other citizens. That is illegal. If you cannot comprehend this then you have no business arguing about the situation.

I would even bet in Canoodia that you cannot legally block traffic. I would bet good (American) money on that. As I said, it is a danger to public safety. If emergency vehicles need to get through, how can they?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
    #1397754 - 03/21/03 07:05 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

pattern writes:

Any protest that is over 100 people blocks traffic.

On a street with no sidewalks, maybe.

I can protest on the streets in Canada, and block traffic, without getting arrested.

My how things have changed since I left Canada. You sure as hell couldn't do that in the Trudeau years in the Sixties and Seventies. I was whacked upside the head twice and jailed twice for doing basically that.

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1397789 - 03/21/03 07:18 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

Dude, these dumb fucks that are in these anti war protests should be thrown in jail. Fuck these stupid father fuckers. They should all burn in hell. Why don't they just stay home and fuck their fathers like they usually do.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: SuperSpun]
    #1397806 - 03/21/03 07:30 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

What a poignant, intelligent, and mature post.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: SuperSpun]
    #1397813 - 03/21/03 07:34 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

You're not helping ya know...?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1397827 - 03/21/03 07:43 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

> On a street with no sidewalks, maybe.

They will all cross the street using a crosswalk too? After all this is a peace protest and they wont break any laws, especially jaywalking laws.

I meant downtown, where the protests are happening. Any large protest cannot be expected to stay off the streets and not block traffic.

> My how things have changed since I left Canada.

Its going better!

My two cents.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1397837 - 03/21/03 07:46 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

then what do you call throwing these materials?

Lets get this into some perspective. A few kids getting angry doesn't compare to dropping 3000 bombs on fucking Baghdad. If we want to throw anyone in jail Bush and Powell should be the first in.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
    #1397843 - 03/21/03 07:48 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

One has nothing to do with the other. Nice try.


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