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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
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So if George Bush murders and slaughters thousands of innocent people in complete defiance of international law it's good, but if a few kids break some shop windows they should be thrown in jail?

Helluva wierd world you live in man.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
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Well, they do. I take that back. However Alex, you are really searching here aren't you? Completley illogical. You hurt my head.


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"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
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What's illogical son? Bush is breaking international law, causing catastrophic damage to an entire country and killing innocent people.

The peace protestors are putting through a few shop windows.

Doesn't take an expert in logic to realise who needs jailing here.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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Lets get this into some perspective. A few kids getting angry doesn't compare to dropping 3000 bombs on fucking Baghdad. If we want to throw anyone in jail Bush and Powell should be the first in.




Tu Quoque

Typical alpo...i'm beginning to pity you as well.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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Umm, when have I ever said that what we are doing is good? But trying to compare one to the other is completely asinine. You could drive a cement truck through the gaps in your logic. With liberals like you, who needs conservatives?


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"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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Exactly. Lets keep things in perspective here.

No one is getting hurt in these protests, except some of the protesters.

Its not a big deal when some people protest. Its also not a big deal they get arrested. But it does reflect the state of America.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
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You could drive a cement truck through the gaps in your logic.

Please do so. So far all you've done is avoid any attempt at a reply and thrown insults.

Let me hear your defence of your glorious leader Mr Bush...


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
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It's a big deal when people can't get to work. I have no way of knowing if it happened but it would be a big deal if an emergency vehicle had to get through.

People have the right to protest. They don't have the right to impede traffic.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (03/21/03 08:01 AM)

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
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Um, it's a big deal to somebody who has an important meeting to get to, or an important delivery to make, or important to the shopekeeper who has a brick thrown through their window. Those are the people getting hurt. You cannot trespass on private property, what don't you understand about that? You cannot destroy private or public property. You cannot impede the flow of traffic. These are not difficult concepts to graps. Think! In America you are free to protest, and free to speak how you wish, as long as you do not violate the rights of another human being. That is the law.


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"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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> It's a big deal when people can't get to work.

Depends on your definition of "big deal", which we disagree on. 

You are falling into Alex's trap.  :wink:

> People have the right to protest. They don't have the right to impede traffic.

We can't have one without the other.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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I think i can actually here you cry from here...


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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By protesting for peace and yet simultaneously engaging of acts of violence or vandalism, these dummies do more to hurt their cause with those who may be open to persuasion. They are nothing more than hypocrites and will be perceived as such by others. Their behaviour may indeed achieve the opposite of what their stated desires are. It's called 'shooting yourself in the foot.' If they are too stupid to realize this, they do not deserve to be taken seriously.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Evolving]
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I wonder if the same people that are pro-rioting would feel the same way if the Christian coalition staged a 10,000 person riot..er "demonstration"?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Evolving]
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> If they are too stupid to realize this,
> they do not deserve to be taken seriously.

They are being taken seriously, they are being arrested. Bush didn't take them seriously before, so some of them are changing their tactics.

The new tactics are stupid though: by being arrested they lose the ability to protest further.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Innvertigo]
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I wonder if the same people that are pro-rioting would feel the same way if the Christian coalition staged a 10,000 person riot..er "demonstration"?


I think you know the answer to that. Double standards infect the leftist idealogues to the core.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Edited by Evolving (03/21/03 08:24 AM)

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
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They are being taken seriously, they are being arrested


You do know what they call it when you throw objects that can hurt you at other people, right?

ASSAULT!!!!...which is an arrestable offense. And yes, even in Canada.

why can't you understand that this is Illegal?


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America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
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Well first off. Bush has not dropped, nor will he drop "3000 bombs" on Bagdad. He has not, nor will he be slaughtering "thousands" of Iraqi's. Anybody that is fighting for Saddam is hardly innocent. In any war there will be some collateral dammage however. But the areas which the US is attacking are not residential areas. In fact most citizens refuse to travel through or live near any of the areas in whcih Saddam, the Bath party, or the Elite Republican Gaurd are located. If Saddam choses to use human shields, their blood is on his hands, not America's. Whatever dammage that we create, we will be cleaning up too.

Do I agree with what our Bush is doing? Not completely. Not at all infact. Massively distorting the truth to somehow attempt to justify other illegal actions is completely rediculous.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
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Um, it's a big deal to somebody who has an important meeting to get to, or an important delivery to make, or important to the shopekeeper who has a brick thrown through their window

How do you think the people of Baghdad are getting to work these days?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Innvertigo]
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You do know what they call it when you throw objects that can hurt you at other people, right?

ASSAULT!!!!...which is an arrestable offense. And yes, even in Canada.

why can't you understand that this is Illegal? 



I understand it is illegal, but I don't care.  The damage done was miniscule.

Baghdad: that's some damage, that bothers me.  Is it ok because it is legal?

I see in terms of the damage done, not of which law was broken.  Some Canadians just think like that, eh.  :wink: 


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: pattern]
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Baghdad: that's some damage, that bothers me. Is it ok because it is legal?

It isn't even legal. Most law experts consider a clear breach of international law.


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