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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: z@z.com]
    #1404279 - 03/23/03 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Do you believe the law should apply to everyone? Or only some?


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
    #1404282 - 03/23/03 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It should apply to everyone. I truly believe that.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: z@z.com]
    #1404284 - 03/23/03 07:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Me too.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: z@z.com]
    #1404379 - 03/23/03 08:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

z@z.com writes:

It should apply to everyone. I truly believe that.

See, you haven't been around here long enough to know that Alex believes more than just that the law should apply to everyone. He believes that unless every lawbreaker is prosecuted, none should be.

When he says,

"If we are prepared to jail kids for breaking shop windows we must also jail Bush for his terrible crimes. Otherwise the law is meaningless,"

that is just one concrete example of the Alex principle. Another is that he says we musn't whup Hussein unless we also whup all the other nations in violation of UN resolutions. Leaving UN resolutions aside and looking at it from the humanitarian aspect, he says we mustn't remove one ruthless dictator unless we remove all ruthless dictators.

Do you see the logic here? Unless it is possible to correct all problems of a certain nature simultaneously, we musn't attempt to correct any. To do otherwise is to act hypocritically.

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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Xlea321]
    #1404592 - 03/23/03 11:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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You sound panicked inny.



there is not a thing you could say that would make me panicked. Don't flatter yourself.

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Please explain why it is ok for your hero George Bush to commit violent crime and break international law with impunity and yet you feel that a few kids breaking a shop window must be jailed.



you don't get it do you? stay off the paint chips my man.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1404612 - 03/24/03 12:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

that is just one concrete example of the Alex principle. Another is that he says we musn't whup Hussein unless we also whup all the other nations in violation of UN resolutions. Leaving UN resolutions aside and looking at it from the humanitarian aspect, he says we mustn't remove one ruthless dictator unless we remove all ruthless dictators.




Nobody expects that USA removes all ruthless dictators in the world. But it would be a really good start if USA stopped to support many ruthless dictators and governments that severly violate human rights, otherwise noone will ever believe that this war is about liberation of Iraqui people.
You cannot remove one and at the same time support others. It's stupid.


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Re: US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests [Re: Phred]
    #1404617 - 03/24/03 12:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

He believes that unless every lawbreaker is prosecuted, none should be.

No, I believe in priorities. Before we concentrate our law resources on tackling a 14 year old kid breaking a window in san francisco we should look towards jailing the man currently raining thousands of tons of high-explosive onto cities and setting children on fire in direct breach of international law and the UN.

It really isn't that hard to understand.

Another is that he says we musn't whup Hussein unless we also whup all the other nations in violation of UN resolutions.

Is everyone equal under the law or not?

What kind of law do you wish to see? One where Shrub decides who should live and who should die? That may be your idea of a perfect world but it ain't mine.

Unless it is possible to correct all problems of a certain nature simultaneously

Excuse me? Have you been at the whippets again? Isreal has been flouting UN resolutions for 36 years and has never faced attack or any serious attempt to force it into line - not even the threat of sanctions. We need to have a principle of law here. We cannot simply leave the decisions to the whim of Shrub.


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