hostileuniverse said:

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we should teach protected sex along WITH abstinence

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That's advocating abstinence only???

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While coupling that w/ the repub led fight against abortion

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So killing babies is the answer to teen pregnancy and out of wedlock birth? Great fucking answer!

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

hostileuniverse said:

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we should teach protected sex along WITH abstinence

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That's advocating abstinence only???

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That's exactly what liberals are calling for.  Conservatives have been pushing abstinence only education, but I'm glad you're willing to cross the line on this one. 

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KauaiOrca said:

Currently our planet is crowded ... resources are scarce ...

Birth control is good ... access to abortion is good ... increased sex education is good ...

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airclay said:

Don't forget abortion is a legal right in the US no matter how much you may disagree with it.

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hostileuniverse said:

KauaiOrca said:

Currently our planet is crowded ... resources are scarce ...

Birth control is good ... access to abortion is good ... increased sex education is good ...

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And with the "complete lives" single payer to kill off the sick and elderly, the cycle of genicide on a mass scale will be complete, good job libs, good job!

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qman said:

airclay said:

qman said:

Or maybe it's shitty parents that are the main problem with teen pregnancy!!

http://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-health-topics/reproductive-health/teen-pregnancy/trends.html

"Birthrates are also higher among Hispanic and black adolescents than their white counterparts... 41.7 per 1000 (Hispanics), 39 per 1000 (blacks), 18.6 per 1000 (whites).

So let's blame the lack of sex education for parents not doing their jobs,  nice excuse guys. 

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now you're just grasping at straws.

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Really?  I think the statistics are very telling!!  What chance does sex education have when a 17 year old is saying "I want to make you a baby"? 

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Our country will go broke trying to keep every human alive as long as technology can possible allow.  That's reality. 

Over 50% of ALL health care spending happens in the last 2 years of life.  That's ridiculous.

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hostileuniverse said:

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Our country will go broke trying to keep every human alive as long as technology can possible allow.  That's reality. 

Over 50% of ALL health care spending happens in the last 2 years of life.  That's ridiculous.

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It is ridiculous, but as long as the person is wiiling to spend it, I think that should be their right, also it's another very important reason to oppose single payer. If you want to die as soon as you get cancer, so be it. But please, don't make that decision for the rest of us.

KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF MY BODY!

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

hostileuniverse said:

the evidence that blacks constitute a higher percentage of violent crime, even though being a smaller part of the population is easily found

http://blackdemographics.com

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

while only being 14% of the population, blacks commit 85% of the violent crime, why is that?

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The evidence that blacks are disproportionately poor is easily found.  Only 10% of whites live in poverty while 27% of blacks do.

And the assertion that blacks commit 85% of violent crime from your far-right, white nationalist, white supremacist, white separatist, antisemitic, neo-Nazi Metapedia site is blatantly FALSE. 

The FBI statistics show that blacks commit 38% of violent crimes.

Now, let's look at the numbers:

27% of blacks live in poverty
10% of whites live in poverty
13% of the population is black
38% of violent crimes are committed by blacks

That means that blacks are 2.7 times more likely to live in poverty (27%/10%) than whites, and 2.9 times more likely to commit a violent crime (38%/13%), meaning violent crime is almost perfectly correlated to poverty level.  Which is what I suspected all along.

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I don't understand why serial killers would sway anything?

the crimes they commit are counted as violent crimes. yes folks above the poverty line can commit violent crimes but as Falcon91 showed the math is pretty solid on the correlation, regardless of your feelings

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The FBI statistics show that blacks commit 38% of violent crimes.

Now, let's look at the numbers:

27% of blacks live in poverty
10% of whites live in poverty
13% of the population is black
38% of violent crimes are committed by blacks

That means that blacks are 2.7 times more likely to live in poverty (27%/10%) than whites, and 2.9 times more likely to commit a violent crime (38%/13%), meaning violent crime is almost perfectly correlated to poverty level.  Which is what I suspected all along.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

airclay said:

So you're summarizing sex ed as "learning to put a condom on?"

Without sex ed kids will be ignorant when dealing with not only sex and their bodies in general but about the risk and spread of std's/unwanted pregnancies or how to deal with them. These are things that abstinence and parental/societal education have failed at.

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Are you joking?  Kids today have the internet and the older kids explaining everything to them at a very early age, almost too young in some circumstances.

Today's kids are about 3 years ahead of the kids when I was growing up and we knew plenty.  If they know how to fuck, they know how to NOT get pregnant.

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Will you accept you were wrong about some of your assumptions? do you accept that over 400 years of prolific racism creates cycles of assumptions, prejudice and violence? That racism perpetuates racism? Or would you rather accept that your comments about sex ed were wrong after having been shown evidence to support the point?

Or are you going to move this discussion onto another irrelevant topic?

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MLK, a republican, would be horrified by their actions

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

burgerbrain said:

Actually I kicked your ass when I brought up the fact that crime does not correlate with poverty, or are you too stupid to look at the graphs?

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I saw that crime rates have gone done.  So what's your explanation for the drop???

burgerbrain said:

Uhh, comparing crime of different demographical groups is not a logical fallacy. You don't even know how to use Logical Fallacies correctly. Go back to school, liberal.

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It's clear you don't even have a college degree, so stick with your ad hominem attacks; it's the one thing you're good at.

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Let me say it again slowly so your liberal mind can understand:

VIOLENT CRIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POVERTY

Get it now, liberal? Probably not.

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Oh, is that how debate works with you?  You say something in capital letters and it's suddenly true?  Then let me say this slowly so your conservative mind can understand:

POOR PEOPLE COMMIT MORE VIOLENT CRIME.

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There are many reasons people are less violent statistically, one has to do with more guns. Or do you want to stick to your idea that more poverty is more violent crime? HAHAHA, liberals.

All I get from you is ad-hominem, ad-hominem boy. I'll bet you post some more ad-hominem

How many times do I have to kick your ass at debate before you wake up?

akira_akuma said:

yes, that's brilliant. it's not because he was poor, that he stole, but because he was an animal and there were not any guns to put him down with.

more the reason for every American killing themselves, for stealing the land there, from Indians, so that they can prevent someone else from having to extinguish their abhorrent animal nature.

i mean, if one person is gonna be an animal...then what's to stop anyone one of you from being an irredeemable rabid animal? or all of you?

you should all consider the problem at it's root. yourselves.

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qman said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

"lack of sex ed is a huge contributor to teen pregnancy"



Really, and what children today don't know by the age of 10 years old about condoms, let alone 14-18 years old?    Teens get pregnant just like everyone else, because they don't give a fuck about wearing condoms because it doesn't feel as good.

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I think you missed the studies I posted.

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So without a sexual education class, these 15-17 year olds don't know about contraception?  Sounds like a bunch of retard people.   Who needs a class for that basic concept?

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hostileuniverse said:

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Our country will go broke trying to keep every human alive as long as technology can possible allow.  That's reality. 

Over 50% of ALL health care spending happens in the last 2 years of life.  That's ridiculous.

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It is ridiculous, but as long as the person is wiiling to spend it, I think that should be their right, also it's another very important reason to oppose single payer. If you want to die as soon as you get cancer, so be it. But please, don't make that decision for the rest of us.

KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF MY BODY!

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Are you saying you support doctor assisted euthanasia? There may be a liberal innyou afterall!

I might add that single payer systems negotiate on medication and implant prices. It's cheaper all around. If you're trying to make the case that universal healthcare is more expensive, you very obviously don't have one fucking clue just what in the fuck you're talking about. Nothing new here