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Heisenberg’s response to Bohr’s atomic challenge ultimately became the cornerstone of quantum physics. After years of questioning the determinism view of the universe that had ruled science for the past two millennia, Heisenberg was finally able to throw a little chaos into the mix. According to classical theory, if you knew exactly what a certain group of atoms was up to at any given instant, you could (with the right equation and enough brainpower to solve it) predict exactly what those atoms would be doing a million years in the future. But Heisenberg tore that idea apart using a complex bit of mathematics called matrix algebra. He proved that even if you know where a particle is, you can’t predict where it’s going; and if you know where it’s going, you no longer know where it is. Ultimately, the precise equations Bohr had challenged Heisenberg to come up with could never be found, and 2,000 years of determinism were suddenly dead.

Heisenberg’s new theory was dubbed the Uncertainty Principle [wiki], and physicist despised it. With precision declared impossible, scientists suddenly found themselves stuck expressing outcomes in odds like cheap Vegas bookies. Reason and logic were losing cards in Heisenberg’s new game.

Despite the frustration it brought his peers, Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle survived every shot aimed at it. Eventually, it was adopted by everyone in the physics community—with the exception of Albert Einstein. Mocking the theory’s reliance on probability, Einstein quipped, "God does not play dice with the Universe!" In response, Pope Bohr laughingly suggested Einstein should stop telling God what to do. Heisenberg won the day, as well as the 1932 Nobel Prize.
http://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/08/the-unpredictable-life-of-werner-heisenberg/

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teknix said:

So you admit how silly the stance is.

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Arthur Holly Compton, The Cosmos of Arthur Holly Compton, 1967:

"A set of known physical conditions is not adequate to specify precisely what a forthcoming event will be. These conditions, insofar as they can be known, define instead a range of possible events from among which some particular event will occur. When one exercises freedom, by his act of choice he is himself adding a factor not supplied by the physical conditions and is thus himself determining what will occur. That he does so is known only to the person himself. From the outside one can see in his act only the working of physical law. It is the inner knowledge that he is in fact doing what he intends to do that tells the actor himself that he is free." - Arthur Holly Compton, 1931 Nobel prize-winning physicist

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Martin Heisenberg, "Is Free Will an Illusion?", Nature, 459, (May 2009): 164-165

"Evidence of randomly generated action — action that is distinct from reaction because it does not depend upon external stimuli — can be found in unicellular organisms. Take the way the bacterium Escherichia coli moves. It has a flagellum that can rotate around its longitudinal axis in either direction: one way drives the bacterium forward, the other causes it to tumble at random so that it ends up facing in a new direction ready for the next phase of forward motion. This 'random walk' can be modulated by sensory receptors, enabling the bacterium to find food and the right temperature." - Martin Heisenberg

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OrgoneConclusion said:

Dude, you can use QM to prove ghosts, ESP, magnetic curing braclets, telekinesis, remote vewing, and alien propulsion systems.

Have you learned nothing in all your time on the netz?

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I don't accept that shit, so you can stick that strawman where the sun don't shine.

(In the basement)

teknix said:

Icelander, remember when I was telling you that logic is dedicated to half of the brain?  It appears only half the universe is dedicated to logic as well.

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Icelander said:

I meant which half of the universe?

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In the Copenhagen interpretation, quantum mechanics can only be used to predict the probabilities for different outcomes of pre-specified observations. What constitutes an "observer" or an "observation" is not directly specified by the theory, and the behavior of a system after observation is completely different than the usual behavior. During observation, the wavefunction describing the system collapses to one of several options. If there is no observation, this collapse does not occur, and none of the options ever become less likely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind%E2%80%93body_problem

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