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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: Rocker232]
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Science, by it's definition, never has proof. The concept of proving something in science (other than math) is anathema to the Scientific Method.

I'm always amused when mystic-heads call evolution "just a theory". That's kinda like calling water "just H2O molecules". Duh. :grin:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
I think our positions were clear. :shrug:


Well I guess I'm just a bad communicator because I didn't get much closure out of that. :lol:


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Let that which doesn't matter truly not matter.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? *DELETED* [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Post deleted by youbreakyoubuy

Reason for deletion: double post needed cleaning up


Edited by youbreakyoubuy (02/05/10 11:45 AM)

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: youbreakyoubuy]
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Saying it twice won't help.:wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: Icelander]
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:sad:


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Let that which doesn't matter truly not matter.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: Icelander]
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Why do you even care what other people believe in?


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"It's not until we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." TDFC

Edited by postanaldrip (02/08/10 10:33 AM)

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: postanaldrip]
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What do you think of Drug Prohibition?


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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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why do you care what I think?


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"It's not until we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." TDFC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: postanaldrip]
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postanaldrip said:
 

Why do you even care what other people believe in?


Because humans are social creatures that have to deal with one another, it is the duty of EVERYONE on this planet to believe as few false things as possible and as many true things as possible. (because of that whole thing about where, you know, we have to live around one another)

Especially when it comes to unsubstantiated claims and belief systems that are full of immoralities and have a logical progression to violence. (because of that whole thing about where, you know, we have to live around one another)

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: shroominboomer91]
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it is the duty of EVERYONE

You said doody.:holyshit:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: shroominboomer91]
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shroominboomer91 said:
Especially when it comes to unsubstantiated claims and belief systems that are full of immoralities and have a logical progression to violence. (because of that whole thing about where, you know, we have to live around one another)


Does truth necessarily coincide with nonviolence?


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: deCypher]
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No, of course not. That wasn't really my point, but I do see where you are coming from.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: shroominboomer91]
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Quote:
Because humans are social creatures that have to deal with one another, it is the duty of EVERYONE on this planet to believe as few false things as possible and as many true things as possible. (because of that whole thing about where, you know, we have to live around one another)



Seriously?  Who are you to say what anybody's duties are on this planet other than your own? 

The subjects that many skeptics have labeled as "false" have NOT been proven to be either true or false.
There is no proof in either direction and just because you might not believe in it does NOT make it false or impossible.

We can be social creatures without becoming enamored on or arguing about others spiritual beliefs.  Especially if the person isnt really important in your life.  Hell, part of healthy social interaction is accepting others beliefs even if they dont jive with your own.

It makes no sense to argue beliefs on the shroomery with a bunch of people you will never even see in person.

Your family and friends?  Thats a different story.  But who really gives a shit if somebody you dont know believs in aliens?




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Especially when it comes to unsubstantiated claims and belief systems that are full of immoralities and have a logical progression to violence. (because of that whole thing about where, you know, we have to live around one another)


Ya, whatever pal.


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"It's not until we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." TDFC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: postanaldrip]
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It makes no sense to argue beliefs on the shroomery with a bunch of people you will never even see in person.


Sure it does.  Its fun, and you get a different dynamic by doing it online.  In person you may feel compelled to hold back and not challenge what somebody says.  Thats not the case here, and thats why we come here - to challenge other's and our own beliefs.  No belief system is worth a shit unless its been tempered in the fires of debate.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: DieCommie]
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:thumbup: Bravo!


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: DieCommie]
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In person you may feel compelled to hold back and not challenge what somebody says.

 

Thats a little thing called respect, which magically disappears when "debating" online.

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Thats not the case here, and thats why we come here


Who do you think youre fooling?  You come here to stroke your ego and reaffirm YOUR beliefs which are just as unsubstantiated as the "believers".  You debate for sport not for self betterment.

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No belief system is worth a shit unless its been tempered in the fires of debate.


If the individual is serious about establishing spiritual beliefs, than a debate will take place in the mind of the seeker.  The mind will create dialogue from both view points. 

No belief system is worth a shit if its just a conglomeration of outside perspectives and biased opinions.
The ideas are best understood when they come from within. 


All of the "debating" that goes on here turns immediately into debunking which has been shown time and time again to be futile and a waste of time.


Beliefs are something to be shared and discussed, not debated.


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"It's not until we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." TDFC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: postanaldrip]
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It makes no sense to argue beliefs on the shroomery with a bunch of people you will never even see in person.

Yet here you are. :dumblol:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: Diploid]
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:curbyourenthusiasm:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: Diploid]
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I could careless what anybody believes.

My point here is to illustrate that all of your "debating" is nothing more than ego boosting.  There are better ways to inspire people and boost your self confidence than winning a few shallow online debates.  There are better ways to establish beliefs...like getting your ass out of the computer chair and living life.



Its ridiculous to me that somebody would actually choose to spend their limited time on this earth making a thread this irrelevant.  You guys really have nothing better to do?  You all have like 20,000 posts too...thats pathetic.

Ive been a member here for like 10 years and I only have 670 posts.

You guys must waste A LOT of time sitting on your asses "debating" to accumulate tens of thousands of posts in a few years.

It might be time to ask yourself what this is all getting you and if there could be better more productive things to do with your time.


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"It's not until we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." TDFC

Edited by postanaldrip (02/09/10 11:47 AM)

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Re: Why do believers generally avoid answering simple questions? [Re: postanaldrip]
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Agreed on some parts of that, i just come here when i have nothing to do (like lately)

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