Home | Community | Message Board


RVF Garden Supply
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineBleedingSickness
Friend OfAttention Whore
Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Northern USA
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD...
    #930577 - 10/04/02 02:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Many people believe that scientists are against religion and that they rule out all traces of god through their work but this is not the case and is clearly as it always has been ...simply a matter of your own personal faith and beliefs even the great Scientist Einstein believed in some form of higher power though it's form wasn't how many religions percieve "god" to be. Now out of all the people of this world speaking towards scientists one of the last people you would expect to believe in God would be Einstein really he was the last one for me at least..... if you don't believe me here are a few tidbits of quotes....... I can post sitings if you wish as well.

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." This is a direct quote of Einstein himself followed by yet another quote

"Our situation on this earth seems strange. Every one of us appears here involuntary and uninvited for a short stay, without knowing the whys and the wherefore. In our daily lives we only feel that man is here for the sake of others, for those whom we love and for many other beings whose fate is connected with our own." ... "The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is." Einstein's speech 'My Credo' to the German League of Human Rights, Berlin, autumn 1932

Just some knowledge to ponder I guess....... sorry if it's useless but now you know sumthin right...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleShroomismM
Space Travellin
Male User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 64,434
Loc: 9th Dimension
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #930645 - 10/04/02 03:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

"The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is."

Bloody brilliant! Good ol' Albert..


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblesir tripsalot
Administrator
 Arcade Champion: Skeleton Park, Space Hunter

Registered: 07/10/99
Posts: 6,486
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #930716 - 10/04/02 03:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Many relgious people see threads about evolution as a personalthreat to their religion.


--------------------

"Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleShroomismM
Space Travellin
Male User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 64,434
Loc: 9th Dimension
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #930849 - 10/04/02 04:10 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Not I


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMitchnast
Trial by Madness
Male User Gallery Arcade Champion: Mahjong

Registered: 10/28/99
Posts: 8,572
Loc: Okanagan
Last seen: 1 day, 6 hours
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: Shroomism]
    #930901 - 10/04/02 04:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

did einstein not say something like "i want to know gods immagination, the rest is just details" ?


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleJoshua
Holoman
Male

Registered: 10/27/98
Posts: 5,389
Loc: The Matrix
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #930945 - 10/04/02 04:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Indeed he did, however his idea of God is far different than that of mainstream religion. I am glad you posted those quotes, I think they do justice toward his true feelings of God.

Joshua


--------------------
The Shroomery Bookstore

Great books for inquiring minds!

"Life After Death is Saprophytic!"


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #931402 - 10/04/02 10:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That quote is my all-time favorite of Albert Einstein's. It is found in part on the PBS documentary of him.

Cheers,


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #931403 - 10/04/02 10:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, and many people see religion as a threat to their evolution. :wink:

Cheers, 


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAlbino_Jesus
Clearly Retarded
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 1,698
Loc: Construction ahead...
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: Shroomism]
    #931434 - 10/04/02 10:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious

Bloody brilliant!





disagreed.


--------------------
The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door.
-Ralph Nader



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineLearyfan
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 29,763
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 16 hours, 4 seconds
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD.. [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #931469 - 10/04/02 11:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Good thread.

His beliefs about God closely mirror mine. Here's my favorite quote of the two:

In reply to:

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."






--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month: The Loose Enz - The Black Door



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleRevelation

 User Gallery

Registered: 08/04/01
Posts: 6,130
Loc: heart cave
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #931530 - 10/04/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Greatness

edit:..okay, was meant to be a thumbs up icon.


--------------------


Edited by Revelation (10/04/02 05:51 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleIn(di)go
People of the sun.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/30/00
Posts: 8,150
Loc: Cologne, Germany
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #931910 - 10/04/02 02:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)


einstein was a great mind... and a grand spirit... he changed the world for the better...
thanks for the post, bleedng... i enjoyed that quotes a lot...


--------------------


Edited by Lozt Soul (10/04/02 02:52 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinevaporbrains
Cub Scout

Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 539
Loc: ghetto# 03479
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: In(di)go]
    #932113 - 10/04/02 03:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

God does not play dice with the universe.... he said that too. it looks like he was disproven according to quantum mechanics...we ..or our grandchildren's grandchildren shall see....


--------------------
All refrences to and statements concerning mushrooms, mushroom cultivation, and mushroom related paraphrenalia refer specifically to the cultivation of legal species.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineCleverName
the cloudsshould know meby now...

Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 1,121
Loc: red earth painted with mi...
Last seen: 11 years, 16 days
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: vaporbrains]
    #932194 - 10/04/02 04:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

quantum mechanics are only theory also, einstein even said he didnt fully undersatnd it....but, it is a theory that makes the MOST sense, even though it fails when it comes to some things, thats why there trying to find the universal theory that makes sense of it all...


--------------------
if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSclorch
Clyster

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/13/99
Posts: 4,805
Loc: On the Brink of Madness
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #932211 - 10/04/02 04:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I often wonder why the sense of the mysterious is often degraded with metaphysical theory. Einstein was brilliant, but he wasn't perfect... he still desperately clung to his encultured concept of God (that's where the "dice" quote originates).


--------------------
Note: In desperate need of a cure...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSclorch
Clyster

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/13/99
Posts: 4,805
Loc: On the Brink of Madness
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: CleverName]
    #932234 - 10/04/02 04:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

thats why there trying to find the universal theory that makes sense of it all...

Ah yes... the fabled GUT or Grand Universal Theory... now called Superstring Theory (more or less). It's weird that Hawking can't accept Heisenberg... why oh why would he have a problem with "sometimes things just happen" (rather than "everything happens for a reason")? Oh well... when the string theorists all die off, science will hopefully delve into more realistic matters.


--------------------
Note: In desperate need of a cure...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleIn(di)go
People of the sun.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/30/00
Posts: 8,150
Loc: Cologne, Germany
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: Sclorch]
    #932244 - 10/04/02 04:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

he still desperately clung to his encultured concept of God


encultured? man... you should take a look at germany's culture back in those days... whomever came up with such a concept of god was inmideately(sp?) cursed out of church... einstein's ideas and concepts about god or the higher power were in NO WAY originated in culture...

oh! and einstein WAS perfect... we all are... you just have to see the perfection


--------------------


Edited by Lozt Soul (10/04/02 04:41 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSclorch
Clyster

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/13/99
Posts: 4,805
Loc: On the Brink of Madness
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: In(di)go]
    #932276 - 10/04/02 04:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Okay... we're going to have a semantics battle... whatever...

encultured? man... you should take a look at germany's culture back in those days... whomever came up with such a concept of god was inmideately(sp?) cursed out of church... einstein's ideas and concepts about god or the higher power were in NO WAY originated in culture...

Was he Jewish? I'm pretty sure he was. And I'm pretty sure they believed in a God... though I could be wrong on that one. So his definition of God was different... he still needed to believe in one.

oh! and einstein WAS perfect... we all are... you just have to see the perfection
Right right.... maybe Mr_Mushrooms can help me on this one. What's the name of that (epistemology?) theory that everything's perfect just the way it is? Whatever... I'm not knocking him. His picture's on my friggin' wall. Why don't you just argue with Aristotle that he disagreed with his teacher?


--------------------
Note: In desperate need of a cure...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAdamist
ℚṲℰϟ✞ЇѺℵ ℛ∃Åʟḯ†У
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/24/01
Posts: 10,211
Loc: Bloomington, IN
Last seen: 1 year, 9 months
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #932305 - 10/04/02 05:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Einstein was a Pisces...  :grin: 


--------------------
:heartpump: { { { ṧ◎ηḯ¢ αʟ¢ℌ℮мƴ } } } :heartpump:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblebuttonion
Calmly Watching

Registered: 04/04/02
Posts: 303
Loc: Kansas
Re: Einstein A Father of Science Believed in GOD... [Re: Sclorch]
    #932724 - 10/04/02 07:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I often wonder why the sense of the mysterious is often degraded with metaphysical theory.

There is a little metaphysical in every perspective.


--------------------
Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Albert Einstein quoted sleepy 1,785 6 11/03/07 12:30 AM
by Grok
* Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
hitch hiker 6,174 83 05/30/08 12:31 PM
by backfromthedead
* When will you all understand? There is no god!
( 1 2 3 4 ... 13 14 all )
Fliquid 15,400 263 09/22/11 12:30 PM
by Cactilove
* Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist?
( 1 2 3 all )
LarrythescaryrexS 4,111 42 07/30/02 06:00 PM
by Larrythescaryrex
* Thinking about the nature of God Ellis Dee 1,286 19 03/09/16 08:31 PM
by falcon
* Do you really believe in a god?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Makaveli 7,859 64 03/09/01 03:18 PM
by holographic mind
* Science as a vice
( 1 2 3 all )
ShroomismM
2,044 41 11/25/04 10:13 PM
by Mixomatosis
* Science as Philosophy Economist 1,075 7 07/27/07 11:46 AM
by Rhizoid

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, CosmicJoke, Diploid, DividedQuantum
3,700 topic views. 0 members, 4 guests and 9 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Vaposhop
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.066 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 16 queries.