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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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Astral Projection is real. Hindus, Buddhist, Taoist, etc all "meditate", but true meditation is Astral Projection. There is a big learning curve to it, b/c like everything else in life, some people just are naturally better at it.

Before you start to Astral Project, it is best that you work on your energy or chakras. There are 7 primary energy centers on your body, and many more secondary centers and so on.

Once you can feel your energy and feel energetically balanced, then you can maximize it by Astral Projection.

You can PM if you want to learn more about it.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Astral Projection is real.


Define 'real' in this context.

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There are 7 primary energy centers on your body, and many more secondary centers and so on.


How do YOU personally know this? How can I verify the number of chakras?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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There is a group that believes unassisted levitation is possible, it simply has a very high learning curve. So far, they can twist their legs into a knot and bounce on pillows very effectively. They see this as a sign of progress toward the final goal that is flight.

"I assure you that it is possible to turn yourself into a Granny Smith apple. The learning curve is just very, very steep..."

WHY is this on the philosophy and spirituality forum when there is a perfectly good forum, specially made for faith-based bullshit, called Mysticism, Religion and the Paranormal? Do the people who should be posting to the latter simply make no distinction between these concepts?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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Tests like these wont work. There are different "frequencies" (I say frequencies b/c everything is made up of vibrating energy. And like there are different frequencies for radio stations, there are different frequencies of reality) in Astral Projection.

To simplify everything we'll say the first level is this reality, everything that we touch, see, feel, etc. Ok, so once you successfully Astral Project, you leave your body(energy wise) and experience the next frequency level, which is in between this reality and the Astral Realms. On this "in between" level, you appear to be ghost like, able to fly through walls and all that good stuff. But while you are in this level, things appear differently than they would in the real reality. Like say you are in you bedroom, and normally you only have 1 door, but in this in between level, you might see 2 or 3 doors. Likewise you might think that you have arms or legs or even a body in this level, but really you are just energy. Your mind is so accustomed to having a body, that it projects it in this level subconsciously. After stareing at your hands they eventually melt away.

And this reason is why phone book thing won't work.

Oh, after the "in between" level, you get into the Astral Realm which it has it's on hierarchy of realms.


I also believe that other drugs, mushrooms, dmt, salvia, etc can send one into the astral realm, without the user even knowing. I've read many trip reports about these mention drugs in which the user is describing visiting an astral realm.

There are several ways to enlightenment or the truth, Astral Projection is one way, and natural entheogens.


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“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Define real?  Ok, I'll say that the Astral World is far more real than this one.  :grin:  Just like on some drugs, colors are more vivid, and vibrant; its just on a whole other level. 

I personally know that the chakras exist, b/c I myself can feel them.  I picked up on them real fast, while others may or may not.  Its all about the mindset as well.  If you are stubborn about it, not wanting to even give it a chance to exist, then it will take you longer. 

I find it way easier to smoke some pot and feel it as opposed to being sober.  Mushrooms would help too. 




http://energytable.com/aura-chakras-healing.html


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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There are several ways to enlightenment or the truth, Astral Projection is one way, and natural entheogens.



Datura leads to enlightenment? And LSD leads where?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Define real? Ok, I'll say that the Astral World is far more real than this one.


BZZZZZZZT! That is not even remotely a definition.

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I personally know that the chakras exist, b/c I myself can feel them.


Are people ever in error about their feelings? Yes or no.

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If you are stubborn about it, not wanting to even give it a chance to exist, then it will take you longer.


Is 10 years 'giving it a chance'?

Your pretty picture is as convincing as a vacuum cleaner part thrown in the air and called a UFO.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Are people ever in error about their feelings? Yes or no.



I've never known anyone on drugs to be wrong about anything, ever.

Ever.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Tests like these wont work.

Riiiiggghhhhtttt.... bullshit doesn't work when a scientist is watching, but it works fine the rest of the time.

Uh huh. :yesnod:


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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That's right, Diploid. I have theorized that this phenomenon has something to do with Christmas elves, but I will have to subject this hypothesis to a notable lack of experimentation to be sure.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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figgusfiddus said:
thedudenj said:
good observation the key to amanita is being in tune then you will synch intune to everything else and astral projection will happen easier or other world travel. also drink a bit of milk with em and bless the milk.
as i said other people have encountered me when doing this so its legit astral projection. its funny cause they were not prepared and i hit em at random. but if you wanna try something like that you probally i have to have a close connect to that person and be skilled in travel and energy


Yeah, make sure you sink extra experience points into travel and energy, or you won't be able to take the boss. You need a power rating of at least 9,000, so you'll need to find ALL the invisible power-up blocks if you want to trip on muscaria.


howd you know the power up blocks help alot


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Datura is a delirium, so I dont thinkso about it. LSD is an exception of the man made drugs, and it can enlighten someone.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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You think we have proper tests? No, science has no clue about this, so how do you think that they can test it properly? I don't have time to post the info that I would like to, but there was a scientist who did an EEG on people who supposedly could Astral Project. And she saw that while they were Astral Projecting, their EEG levels were way lower than what they should of been.

Also the US Gov't has a program where they use remote viewers, and this somewhat relates to Astral Projection.


Yes some people have errors in their feelings, but with your chakras, you are literally feeling your energy. It feels like a small rapidly rotating ball of energy, and it feels real real good. LIke a bone tickling feeling.

Also when I tripped off mushrooms, I would get a great body high, that I eventually figured out was coming from the base of my spine. Well yrs later when I found out about chakras, I realized that the body high from shrooms, was actually coming from the chakra located at the base of my spine.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

Edited by ElectricJW (06/27/07 04:47 AM)

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Anything is possible; this is basically Buddhist science.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Look, you don't need a test to disprove nonsense, or else all the time and energy of the human species would be spent disproving crazy sons of bitches, because they do happen to be everywhere. They are "even more" everywhere on the internet, and "even even more" everywhere on internet forums that cater to those who admire both hallucinogens and debate.

If you are suggesting that an unlikely notion is true, the burden of proof is on you. The government isn't stopping you, and neither is Mr. Gray. Nor is Gillian Anderson, Jack Ruby, or the man on the moon. If you don't want us to laugh at you, beat you up and shove you in the girls' locker room any longer, fucking prove your absolute bullshit theories. Then, science will attempt to understand them--failing that, scientists will accept that they are inexplicable, and a new era of new-agey fluff will emerge to take over the human consciousness. Blah, blah, fucking blah.

Until you are willing to prove your magical claims as repeatable, concrete phenomena, KEEP THEM THE FUCK OFF A FORUM SUPPOSEDLY DEDICATED TO RATIONAL DISCOURSE.

MRP is open and willing. Your kind frolick there. Go to join them.

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No, science has no clue about this, so how do you think that they can test it properly?


"Science" is not a "they". It is not a secret society. Science is a method for discerning fact from bullshit. This would be the latter. If you actually have a reason to believe otherwise, you are in a perfectly good place to serve as an upset to the world's scientific community. Why aren't you jumping on this opportunity? Aren't your "facts" observable and repeatable?

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Thank you.

PS: Bullshit.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Datura is a delirium,


Datura is a plant not a mental state of confusion. Try to make sense.

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LSD is an exception of the man made drugs, and it can enlighten someone.


So your natural/unnatural distinction was total BS that not even you believe in?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Also the US Gov't has a program where they use remote viewers, and this somewhat relates to Astral Projection.




Had not has.

So remote viewing allows one to bring back data about the physcial plane and astral travel does not, but remote viewing is a form of astral travel...

Can anyone keep their story straight? :rolleyes:


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: mkc]
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mkc said:
Anything is possible; this is basically Buddhist science.


Anything is say-able. Many things are impossible. Try them.

"Buddhism" is not a magic word that makes your bullshit real. Buddhism is an age-old philosophy with an element of mythology, like Christianity, Judaism, or Hinduism. It's another religion. I know you folks don't like to hear this, but just something being considered exotic doesn't make it any more true.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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>Also the US Gov't has a program where they use remote viewers, and this somewhat relates to Astral Projection.

Ah, this must be how North Korea secretly developed nukes even as we paid them lots of money under a treaty in which they agreed not to. And our remote viewers didn't notice until the North exploded their first test bomb.

Makes sense to me. :shrug:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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Like I said you can just try it yourself. I know it is real, along with many many other Astral Projectors, just practice working on your chakras, (this is easier than A.P.) just to see if its true. And, being high helped me and my friends feel it easier.

Its fine if you don't believe, but don't knock it until you tried it. I was skeptical too, but I was shocked when it worked.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

Edited by ElectricJW (06/27/07 08:40 AM)

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