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OfflineBleaK
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how can something so profound be ignored?
    #5901673 - 07/26/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have said this before in many different posts and in different words. it is ignored most often. but with all the posts about population around lately i am re-living it.

there is no known nessesity for creating life, therefore, it is irresponsible, and immoral to subject innocence to suffering.

how can anyone be so sure of themselves to think they could create something so fragile?

what makes you think you know the reason for all of this?
why do you subject life to war and famine? - to the burden of choice and fear?
how can you possibly rationalize making more life when you dont know what it is?


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
    #5901687 - 07/26/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

this isn't any more profound than the other times you posted it.

for example, the 3+ posts on the first search page along with your name (all in various forums):

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch...isplaytype=main

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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: kotik]
    #5901704 - 07/26/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

life will always exist, if you don't create it someone else will.

therefore, if you are a loving enlightened individual, you would make a far better parent than 90% of the world. adoption or conception, it would be doing life a favor. in some ways it would be your duty then, so that the possibility to exist in a very fortunate home is there, rather than an unfortunate one.

as an individual really it doesn't matter too much, if you have a kid or if they don't, life disperses evenly.

consider that you need to become a human, and you need an optimal environment. there is an amazing energetic and beautiful couple, full of compassion with every good intent imaginable....... but they won't have kids.... what can you do then?

well if you were mean to be born of them you would, so its moot.

maybe look beyond this existence into the source and figure out how you came to be in this "life" and it'll make a bit more sense.

there's also no inherent reason to be a human. we're here to learn. you could stay in the source and attain nirvana next go around, or be any possible thing really.

why war? I don't know... it's terrible and I question why I came into a reality with such things happening in it.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
    #5902441 - 07/26/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I personally enjoy life and my children enjoy life. On the balance, life is more good than bad. I suppose if I had a view as negative as yours I would probably consider offing myself and leaving more resources for others who can enjoy things. However, I see beauty, wonder and joy in every day of existence. Life is a gift that I cherish, I chose to pass it on.


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
    #5902552 - 07/26/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Life has the choice of being non-life.

Non-life does not have the choice of being life.

I'm about choice. Thus, I'm about life.


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
    #5902633 - 07/26/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

someone mussa got a bit pissed off.
don't do nothing rash


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
    #5902668 - 07/26/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
i have said this before in many different posts and in different words. it is ignored most often. but with all the posts about population around lately i am re-living it.

there is no known nessesity for creating life, therefore, it is irresponsible, and immoral to subject innocence to suffering.

how can anyone be so sure of themselves to think they could create something so fragile?

what makes you think you know the reason for all of this?
why do you subject life to war and famine? - to the burden of choice and fear?
how can you possibly rationalize making more life when you dont know what it is?




Well I have thought of that. I do se a reason for creating life, but I think not everyone should have kids.

I think a person must ask themselfs these questions before creating life:

1. What can I offer in terms of genes. Am I genetic garbage or would the child benefit from my genes combined with genes of my woman/man.

2. What can I teach this child? Do I really have something smart to say to it? Am I even sure what to teach it?

3. Am I living in the kind of conditions that alow childs normal growth. Like emotional atmosphere, social and political events,
existential/exonomic conditions, nature of the mother-father relationship etc.

Based on the first two I have decided not to have children. I don't consider myself a genetic benefit to the human gene pool, and I really don't know which version of the truth to program into the child, risking making him a delusional idiot. Plus I'm just plain crazy to be a father or even a husband/permanent-partner.


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