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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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how can something so profound be ignored?
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i have said this before in many different posts and in different words. it is ignored most often. but with all the posts about population around lately i am re-living it.

there is no known nessesity for creating life, therefore, it is irresponsible, and immoral to subject innocence to suffering.

how can anyone be so sure of themselves to think they could create something so fragile?

what makes you think you know the reason for all of this?
why do you subject life to war and famine? - to the burden of choice and fear?
how can you possibly rationalize making more life when you dont know what it is?


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"You cannot trust in law, unless you can trust in people. If you can trust in people, you don't need law." -J. Mumma

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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
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this isn't any more profound than the other times you posted it.

for example, the 3+ posts on the first search page along with your name (all in various forums):

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch...isplaytype=main

:thumbdown:


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: kotik]
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life will always exist, if you don't create it someone else will.

therefore, if you are a loving enlightened individual, you would make a far better parent than 90% of the world. adoption or conception, it would be doing life a favor. in some ways it would be your duty then, so that the possibility to exist in a very fortunate home is there, rather than an unfortunate one.

as an individual really it doesn't matter too much, if you have a kid or if they don't, life disperses evenly.

consider that you need to become a human, and you need an optimal environment. there is an amazing energetic and beautiful couple, full of compassion with every good intent imaginable....... but they won't have kids.... what can you do then?

well if you were mean to be born of them you would, so its moot.

maybe look beyond this existence into the source and figure out how you came to be in this "life" and it'll make a bit more sense.

there's also no inherent reason to be a human. we're here to learn. you could stay in the source and attain nirvana next go around, or be any possible thing really.

why war? I don't know... it's terrible and I question why I came into a reality with such things happening in it.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

Edited by leery11 (07/26/06 11:40 AM)

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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
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I personally enjoy life and my children enjoy life. On the balance, life is more good than bad. I suppose if I had a view as negative as yours I would probably consider offing myself and leaving more resources for others who can enjoy things. However, I see beauty, wonder and joy in every day of existence. Life is a gift that I cherish, I chose to pass it on.


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And as things fell apart,
Nobody paid much attention...
- David Byrne, '(Nothing But) Flowers' from the Talking Heads' album, 'Naked'

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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
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Life has the choice of being non-life.

Non-life does not have the choice of being life.

I'm about choice. Thus, I'm about life.


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Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21 (New King James Version)

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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
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someone mussa got a bit pissed off.
don't do nothing rash


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Re: how can something so profound be ignored? [Re: BleaK]
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BleaK said:
i have said this before in many different posts and in different words. it is ignored most often. but with all the posts about population around lately i am re-living it.

there is no known nessesity for creating life, therefore, it is irresponsible, and immoral to subject innocence to suffering.

how can anyone be so sure of themselves to think they could create something so fragile?

what makes you think you know the reason for all of this?
why do you subject life to war and famine? - to the burden of choice and fear?
how can you possibly rationalize making more life when you dont know what it is?


Well I have thought of that. I do se a reason for creating life, but I think not everyone should have kids.

I think a person must ask themselfs these questions before creating life:

1. What can I offer in terms of genes. Am I genetic garbage or would the child benefit from my genes combined with genes of my woman/man.

2. What can I teach this child? Do I really have something smart to say to it? Am I even sure what to teach it?

3. Am I living in the kind of conditions that alow childs normal growth. Like emotional atmosphere, social and political events,
existential/exonomic conditions, nature of the mother-father relationship etc.

Based on the first two I have decided not to have children. I don't consider myself a genetic benefit to the human gene pool, and I really don't know which version of the truth to program into the child, risking making him a delusional idiot. Plus I'm just plain crazy to be a father or even a husband/permanent-partner.


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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