fearfect said:

to the original post:
thats why i stopped posting in these forums

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Stopped, as in, the past tense?

Did you pay someone to log into your account and make this present post, then?

What about the ten posts you made in here last week?


Peace.

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See, one of the core issues I hammer on constantly is that mystics don't have fixed definitions for anything. Ask 100 mystics what God is, and you'll get 100 different answers. Mystics are about things that can't be seen, have multiple definitions, no specific location, and have never been observed outside a mystic's head.

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Last I checked, that would be called a subjectivist. We all have subjective opinions based on our personal experiences. So?

"Mystics" disagree with each other about a lot of things and even their own ideas of truth keep changing and expanding as more layers of reality are revealed to them.

A mystic to me has no source of authority they look to other then their own experiences, intuitive feelings/knowings and observations.

I don't understand why they get confused with people who believe in books on blind faith. I don't know what you would call someone who does other then someone who is afraid to think for them self or who is easy to manipulate because of that fear.

The fact that 100 mystics will give 100 different answers is because .............they think for themselves.

That's also why they were the ENEMY of the organized dogmatic church and still are.

If no one has noticed, the "mystics" and Fivepointer butt heads constantly as he tells us all we are evil. He called me a heretic and I take that as a compliment.

There are far too many beliefs to  list that other "mystics" here have that run contrary to my own understandings.  I know many labeled mystics here don't agree with a lot of my understandings. The only thing we seem to have in common is an understanding of the benefits of living in and with compassion when we can.


Call us aspiring compassionists if you want to lump us all into a common area of belief.


The otherwise disagreements alone, tell me that use of the word Mystic and mysticism here or anywhere is what is irrational. It doesn't mean ANYTHING, when no one can even agree on what it means or is.

You might as well call me an atheist too. I think the god of the bible is just a group of extra terrestrial beings messing around here.

I currently believe in changing states of energy. Consciousness is one of those states. What does that make me? An energyist?

Obviously, there is a source of all of this energy making up solids, liquids, gases and the quantum field and who knows what else. I don't believe the Godman in anyones Bible is the source of IT. I think they, like we are products of IT.

I don't believe a being resembling any life form separate from anything else will ever be found behind ALL of this.

It looks like you have an atheist mystic here. Goes to show how stupid that mystic label is. It means nothing definable is right.

However, there is open freedom to the undefinable and ever changing that is oh so cool which is why I don't mind being called it or using it.

Icelander said:

Deviate said:

Icelander said:

Can you throw out 6 names to me?

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just off the top of my head i can recall the following users describing themselves as atheist:

diploid
itstarssaddam
ravus
SkorpivoMusterion
bellylard
MikeOLogical
Redstorm

oops that's more than six.


and veritas, i'm well aware of the term agnostic which is why i only listed users who specifically described themselves as atheist, however i suggest you review skorpvio's thread on agnosticism vs atheism <a href="mhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5266178/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1" target="_blank">mhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5266178/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1</a> in which he explains why he is a proud atheist, both hard and soft and how agnosticism gives credit to beliefs which deserve none.

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Ok, Ravus is no longer here so he doesn't count. I would like to hear from these folks and see how many actually are. Chime in here guys.

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Deviate, you remembered me.