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The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes
    #4711281 - 09/25/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone read this book? I saw it at the bookstore yesterday and it caught my eye.



"Like his and Peter Copeland's Living with Our Genes (1998), geneticist Hamer's provocative new book begins with the caveat that a single gene rarely accounts for a complex behavior, such as homosexuality, which was instanced in Living, or spirituality, the focus here. Still, Hamer has done sufficient research to argue that a single gene is implicated in spirituality, and his highly accessible exposition of how he arrived at that point is pretty impressive, if occasionally a bit Mr. Rogers-like in tone. Later, he adopts antireligious geneticist Richard Dawkins' concept of the meme, or transmissible unit of cultural information, to expand upon how culture and genetics interact to prompt expressing spirituality through religion and thereby to sustain faith traditions, such as in the demonstration case here, Judaism. (Hamer thinks Dawkins' attitudes toward religion less than rational, by the way, and poses those of sociobiologist Edward O. Wilson as a healthy alternative.) He ends with another caveat: distinguish between beliefs and the act of believing--and the war between science and religion just might be resolved. Ray Olson
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What do you think of that last line? Do you think there actually is a war between science and religion?

I'm curious what kind of research he has done to suggest that it is one specific gene responsible for spiritual thought.


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Jaimie]
    #4711367 - 09/25/05 09:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't read it but I think I saw a program about it on TV back when I used to watch.

I have faith that I know nothing for sure. I have faith that what I follow will be just as good a guess as anyone else.

Do you know what the names of those galaxies in your avatar are?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Icelander]
    #4711426 - 09/25/05 10:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're right that there is no way to know for sure. :smile: I'm just very curious how someone would even begin to try to prove something like this. I think I'll have to read this book sometime and find out.

I'm not sure if these are the names of the galaxies, but they are listed here as NGC4568/9. I love the concept of siamese galaxies. They remind me of love. :heart:


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Icelander]
    #4711427 - 09/25/05 10:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have read this and found his theses to be based on speculation for the greatest part. It reminded me of "The Spirit Molecule" in that he made some interesting assumptions and then backed them up with conjecture. It was a good book, but not confirmed fact. To my thinking faith is not always a universal quality among groups of related or unrelated people.


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Jaimie]
    #4711519 - 09/25/05 10:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)



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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Diploid]
    #4711548 - 09/25/05 10:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

What do you think of that last line? Do you think there actually is a war between science and religion?




It's the most intense war going on right now; I'd venture to say it affects every citizen's life, especially in the US though probably in all countries.


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Diploid]
    #4711551 - 09/25/05 10:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i would think life experiences has a lot to do with it.


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Jaimie]
    #4711558 - 09/25/05 10:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, I like to look at them in my telescope. :cool:


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Diploid]
    #4711592 - 09/25/05 10:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks! That was a good read.  :thumbup:


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Icelander]
    #4711600 - 09/25/05 10:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Thanks, I like to look at them in my telescope. :cool:




Wow...I'm incredibly jealous. :grin: I want a telescope!!


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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Jaimie]
    #4711640 - 09/25/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

They are not that expensive if you know what you're doing. PM me if you ever decide to go looking for one. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes [Re: Ravus]
    #4713802 - 09/26/05 01:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, and that is a silly war. Religion can get explored with scientifical means, with really no bit of loose for its spiritual values !


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