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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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None of those have exactly panned out yet :facepalm:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
None of those have exactly panned out yet :facepalm:


Depends on how you look at it and who's side you're on. If your not going to riot over snap/medication cuts your not going to riot over this.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


Probably don't agree except on what U.S. was doing wrong before Trump; not on what he's doing better.

But you're back!

Hope you're ready to discuss Trump revenge indictments of Comey and James, plus whatever the fuck he is escalating with Sen. Mark Kelly that's likely to elevate his career to VP or Secretary of Defense.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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The former VP of Venezuela has already been sworn in as president.


"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


proving to who? everyone already knew these wars were bullshit.

unless you mean hes proving to idiots who currently still think iraq was about wmds. like maga retards.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


How is Venezuela not about money making. Were in there for the oil. He's made that clear. Good to see the tirade of bullshit back :smile:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Quote:
trump said:
We’ll run it professionally. We’ll have the greatest oil companies in the world go in and invest billions,” he said, adding: “We’re not afraid of boots on the ground.


:iamderp:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 1
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Trump advocated doing to gaddafi and Libya almost exactly what he’s done in Venezuela.

si=rnXM73S1dHBF-Obv


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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A double win. One for security and oil for Trump's oil company exec's that he asked for money for his reelection.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


Welcome back.  Explain what was going on when Trump flew on Epstein's planes multiple times with young people who would become witnesses in Ghislaine trial?  Why was trump on those flights?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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He was under cover :wink:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


Probably don't agree except on what U.S. was doing wrong before Trump; not on what he's doing better.

But you're back!

Hope you're ready to discuss Trump revenge indictments of Comey and James, plus whatever the fuck he is escalating with Sen. Mark Kelly that's likely to elevate his career to VP or Secretary of Defense.


Feel free to ask me more direct questions relative to the topics, and I'll argue back in good faith.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


How is Venezuela not about money making. Were in there for the oil. He's made that clear. Good to see the tirade of bullshit back :smile:


It's boring without frenemies, right?

Oh yeah, the oil thing. Both sides feel entitled, both have their arguable reasons. Boring argument.

The INTERESTING argument is about how quickly Trump just... does what he says he's gonna do. No playing around with "boots on the ground" for years. Trump seems to hate, "Boots on the ground" beyond what is absolutely necessary.

It's a stark contrast that ought to be getting more people asking the question, "What the hell have our past presidents been DOING in 3rd world countries for years on end if it's really THIS easy?"

We've been subject to a show for decades. Pretend wars to make a lot of people money. Trump, love him or hate him, doesn't do pretend wars. Maybe it's because he was a businessman for decades, but he just gets the job done and gets the fuck out.

And I respect that.


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Here comes...

Edited by FoolOfElysium (01/04/26 09:07 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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I'll take a quick couple over a drawn out war. But destabilizing another country for money is more meddling that we don't need to be doing, is goingnto fuck us further in the long run. And is exactly the type of thing he promised he wasn't going to be doing. Liar and pedo in chief that he is.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
I'll take a quick couple over a drawn out war. But destabilizing another country for money is more meddling that we don't need to be doing, is goingnto fuck us further in the long run. And is exactly the type of thing he promised he wasn't going to be doing. Liar and pedo in chief that he is.


I disagree this is going to destabilize the country. I actually poked in here at this time because I've been laughing my ass off all evening at how many Venezuelans in our own country are pissed off at anti Trumpers for pushing back against what just happened. I'm seeing videos of people protesting in the streets saying "No war with Venezuela! Free Maduro!" And Venezuelans are going, "The fuck?" Trump just likely won more Venezuelan voters over that ever before.

Seriously... laugh my fucking ass off. People need to be listening to the Venezuelans themselves instead. The overwhelming majority of them are ELATED that Maduro is gone.



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Edited by FoolOfElysium (01/04/26 09:17 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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I never said they weren't glad that Maduro is gone
..I never had the impression he was some great guy. I'm just looking at how great nation building  and regime changes and funding other countries has worked out for us jn the past. Its one of the biggest reasons people who put America first voted trump in. To not do just this type of thing.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Let's just get to brass tax

Forget Trump. Think about the people in Venezuela.

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Maduro is now out of power?


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Edited by FoolOfElysium (01/04/26 09:22 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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Probably not. Power vacuums like they've just created rarely get filled with good vibes and rainbows for the people of the country. Which scumbag do they have in mind to run the place? With the nearly 60 billion in bitcoin reserves that Venezuela has i wouldnt be surprised if trumps coinbase wallet goes through the roof.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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The Venezuelan people vehemently disagree with you, overall.

If you think they are celebrating in ignorance, that's on you. If you think the people in the video I linked aren't as "big picture" as you are, then make your case with them, not me.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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FoolOfElysium said:
Let's just get to brass tax

Forget Trump. Think about the people in Venezuela.

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Maduro is now out of power?


By that logic, anyone who assassinates trump is doing a good thing.  It would undoubtedly be a good thing for America if Trump were out of power.

Your "ends justify the means" argument is the standard authoritarian bullshit that you've been spewing since the beginning.  Ends can never justify means.


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