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Mush4Brains
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Kiya_Star427]
#19126186 - 11/12/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And the worst part is these illegals get to cast votes
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zappaisgod
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: psilynut]
#19127077 - 11/12/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many of you have done this job or lost it to a mexican? You show up at 5am you stand there for hours and maybe someone drives up and picks you. Its not really a job its more of a desperate attempt to maybe get paid 40 dollars to dig a ditch all day. You could also stand there all week sunup till sundown and not get shit. I dont know who their taking these jobs from . I would grow weed and sell it on craigslist before I did that.
Around here they get $100 a day cash plus lunch and transportation. This is the equivalent of roughly $20 an hour on the books. Plus it offers training in a real career that will never go away or can be offshored.Quote:
One of the problems i see with this type of work is illegals are just easier to hire for this shit regardless of the amount your paying them.
They are not easier to hire and they are dangerous to hire because they are not covered by workmen's compQuote:
If your a home based contractor and you need to hire someone for just one day to perform an unskilled task hiring someone from here can be a huge pain in the ass . You gotta do paperwork, w2 form, take a copy of his ss card, run employment verification, go over the employer handbook, add him to your insurance and everything else tax related. You already wasted half a day right there.
Total nonsense. There are already companies that will supply totally legit day labor but that is not required for extremely short term employmentQuote:
This is why they go grab day laborers from the home depot parking lot. All you have to do is give them cash, and if they hurt themselves just tell them your brother is an ins officer and they should fuck off cause you have to go find a new guy.
That last is complete bullshit. They can sue you. Workmen's comp is for the protection of the employer and homeowner, NOT the employee. You have no fucking clue and yet you spew. Sad.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
#19127247 - 11/12/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, of course they can sue you, but how many are going to risk being deported over an injury?
Oh, workman's comp is on a state-by-state basis, stop acting like this is a black and white issue here.
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Plus it offers training in a real career that will never go away or can be offshored.
So, you want to train illegal immigrants to work even higher paying jobs?
Dude, just admit you hire illegal immigrants because it is a net benefit to you. If they didn't increase profits, they wouldn't be getting hired.
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zappaisgod
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19127292 - 11/12/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Yeah, of course they can sue you, but how many are going to risk being deported over an injury?
All of them. Are you shitting me? When they can bank a lifetime's worth of homeland bucks in one fell swoop? I've seen them do it. Quote:
Oh, workman's comp is on a state-by-state basis, stop acting like this is black and white issue here.
The writer of that article does not understand that it isn't the workers who benefit. Quote:
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Plus it offers training in a real career that will never go away or can be offshored.
So, you want to train illegal immigrants to work even higher paying jobs?
No. I want to train you.Quote:
Dude, just admit you hire illegal immigrants because it is a net benefit to you. If they didn't increase profits, they wouldn't be getting hired.
It is not beneficial to the employer to hire illegals.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
#19127380 - 11/12/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is not beneficial to the employer to hire illegals.
On face, that literally makes no sense. If it isn't beneficial to employers to hire illegal immigrants, why are there so many employers hiring illegal immigrants? I mean, being a huge fan of capitalism like you are, how does that make sense?
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19127400 - 11/12/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. I want to train you.
Send me a contract.
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zappaisgod
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19127458 - 11/12/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is not beneficial to the employer to hire illegals.
On face, that literally makes no sense. If it isn't beneficial to employers to hire illegal immigrants, why are there so many employers hiring illegal immigrants? I mean, being a huge fan of capitalism like you are, how does that make sense?
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19127463 - 11/12/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. I want to train you.
Send me a contract.
A contract?
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
#19127937 - 11/12/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. I want to train you.
Send me a contract.
A contract?
I'm not going to relocate across the country with no safeguard that I'm not going to get let go the next day.
Oh wait, job security? What is that?
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19128043 - 11/12/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. I want to train you.
Send me a contract.
A contract?
I'm not going to relocate across the country with no safeguard that I'm not going to get let go the next day.
Why not? I didQuote:
Oh wait, job security? What is that?
Nothing I ever had. Here is what job security means. Be worth something. Some entrepreneur will find something for you to do. Or you could, shudder, find something yourself. What a concept? You, your magnificent self, actually figure out how to be the beneficiary of your magnificence instead of the evil exploiting fuck who doesn't appreciate you.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
#19134451 - 11/14/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's no real reason not to hire these guys for unskilled jobs. The reason you are working in fruit picking or whatever is because you don't have that much education on either side, it's not needed. If they had a doctorate I guess they'd have a free pass over.
Have no fear this is soon coming to a county near you. I would love to hear how this admin. and its ex employees can justify attempting to cut the GI bill to help vets pay for college, as well as cut funding for student loans for needy American students, while simultaneously giving MILLIONS of dollars, EXCLUSIVELY to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT SCUM! Why should the American taxpayer have to foot the bill for illegal border crossers when many legal citizens can't even afford tuition?
Why the hell is this admin. so obsessed with punishing the legal, law abiding citizens of this country while on the other hand unabashedly forcing us to finance those that don't even have the right to be in our country, at our expense? It seems when it comes to fucking over the legal taxpaying citizens of this country this admin. just can't seem to do enough to accomplish that goal. I think I'm going to move to Mexico, illegally enter this country and enjoy the fruits of all these asshole Americans labor.
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Janet Napolitano Gets Generous with Illegal Aliens in Her New Job as UC President By Brenda Walker on November 1, 2013 at 9:27am
When Janet Napolitano was in charge of the Department of Homeland Security, the illegal alien hacks thought she deported too many of them. (However, it has been known for some time that the deportation figures of the current administration were inflated — Obama admitted the numbers were “deceptive” back in 2011.)
In her first major address in her new gig as head of the University of California system, she made a point of plopping down some serious cash for illegal alien students who want a free ride to UC — $5 million, at a time when the university has been struggling with its budget and tuition has been marching ever upward.
In an October 19 Huffpo article, University Of California Budget Still Rocky After Years Of Drastic Cuts, the former UC Berkeley Chancelor Robert Birgeneau remarked, “The reality is that the current budget is not stable in the long run and so the challenges are not over.” Today at UC, the annual price tag for tuition is $12,192, nearly twice what it was in 2006, and an increase is likely before long.
Yet Janet Napolitano can find $5 million in loose change to make the lives of foreign lawbreakers still easier as they take college slots that should go to California young people. Illegal alien students already get taxpayer-subsidized tuition and financial aid, but apparently that red carpet treatment was not enough and now they must have special advisors.
UC Berkeley, for example, already has an office for inclusion and equity with a staff of 150 and a budget of $17 million. There can never be too much sensitive coddling for non-Americans in diversity-crazed California, it seems.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: Therian]
#19136752 - 11/14/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Reply to fail, I believe.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
#19137815 - 11/14/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We need 'immigration reform' 
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: starfire_xes]
#19137886 - 11/14/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Such an intelligent post, starfire.
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Re: This is why i don't have sympathy for people who loose jobs to illegal immigrants [Re: starfire_xes]
#19139747 - 11/15/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: We need 'immigration reform' 

Yes we do. Throw the illegals out.
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