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A bill just passed for illegal immigrants?
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*edited to prevent utter humiliation.
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EDIT 2/20/14:
This post was to discuss the Washington DREAM Act, that supposedly supports the families of undocumented students by providing funds for their education. (Read up on it, obviously I didn't)

"ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS" is a term that refers to the people that have entered the United States of America through actions that break our Federal law. I believe that no human is "illegal", but the fact is that it is a crime to step foot into the United States without proper entry. Therefore, those people are known to me as ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. I do not intend to offend anyone by this term.

Us, as Americans, did not claim our land properly. To the natives, I apologize for my ancestors. But now this is the land we own, rightfully ours by force and purchase. I, as an American citizen, am an immigrant to this LAND, just as anyone else that isn't native. But lucky for me, I was born in the country after the land was claimed.


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Edited by Dynamite089 (02/24/14 10:19 AM)

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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Dynamite089]
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the democrats want 20 million new voters that will pull the (D) lever every election.  they dont give a fuck about those people, they are just giving away free stuff so if they can get amnesty passed they will have enough of a new voting base to stay in power forever.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
the democrats want 20 million new voters that will pull the (D) lever every election.  they dont give a fuck about those people, they are just giving away free stuff so if they can get amnesty passed they will have enough of a new voting base to stay in power forever.


Hmm where have i heard this exact argument, oh yea!

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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Dynamite089]
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un-american = very american.

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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes]
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I doubt the democrats/republicans give a shit who wins the election. So long as everything representing 'western' can be weakened, attacked, degraded, sold out, deflated and discarded then everything is doing just fine. There does not seem to be any political necessity to import masses of incompetent, sick, culturally incompatible people into asia or africa, they only need to be brought into western countries, and this is some kind of doing good? What good exactly? Well obviously, breeding fair skins out of existence is 'doing good'.

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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: usulpsychonaut] * 1
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Its called multiculturalism, get with the program. Of course we need uneducated illegals from third world countries, bringing  with them their third world disease, third world culture, third world violence, third world ignorance, third world sense of entitlement etc. Why shouldn't we be forced to accept all these perks, and pay for them too?


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
the democrats want 20 million new voters that will pull the (D) lever every election. 


How does the dream act create new voters?


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Dynamite089]
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No human is illegal.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Smokey420]
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Smokey420 said:
No human is illegal.


except clones


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: psyconaught]
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psyconaught said:
Smokey420 said:
No human is illegal.


except clones


Yeah, those soulless monstrosities can go fuck themselves.
Unless we use them to fight off a droid army, then it's cool.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Smokey420]
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Smokey420 said:
psyconaught said:
Smokey420 said:
No human is illegal.


except clones


Yeah, those soulless monstrosities can go fuck themselves.
Unless we use them to fight off a droid army, then it's cool.


you're the one injecting morality in this. Cloning humans is illegal therefore it would follow that a cloned human could be illegal. I said nothing about them being 'soulless' or 'monstrosities'.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: psyconaught]
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Quote:
Psychonaught said: Cloning humans is illegal



I don't think it's illegal everywhere, so it would depend where the cloning was done.

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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: falcon]
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falcon said:
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Psychonaught said: Cloning humans is illegal



I don't think it's illegal everywhere, so it would depend where the cloning was done.


its not specifically legal anywhere i'm pretty sure. At best there are some areas where its a grey area. However i would guess more places have banned it than not.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
starfire_xes said:
the democrats want 20 million new voters that will pull the (D) lever every election. 


How does the dream act create new voters?



Am I right that after a period of some time to be determined, supposedly a long time :lolsy: (as if) all these people will be granted citizenship? 

Fuck them.  Kick their asses out of the country, and make them go to the end of the line and apply through the process like everyone else does.  Anything else is just pandering to a demographic group and cheating the honest people who have waited sometimes years to get a visa to get into the US legally.  WE DON'T NEED 20 MILLION NEW UNEDUCATED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

Jesus christ, what's so hard to see about that?

And WHY would the democrats do that?  They will do anything to move...... 'forward' with their ideology.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes]
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First, it's a state law, so it has zero effect on citizenship.  Second, the whole point is education.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
First, it's a state law, so it has zero effect on citizenship.  Second, the whole point is education.



what's a state law? :confused:


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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The Washington Dream Act...the bill this thread is about.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Enlil]
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OK.  It still sucks.


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: starfire_xes]
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You think it sucks that Washington might decide to allow some illegal immigrants to participate in some financial aid for school?  Don't you think the states should be free to do what they want with their tax money?


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Re: A bill just passed for illegal immigrants? [Re: Enlil]
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As I see it the issue is people not paying taxes if they are illegal. Why not let them in and issue them social security numbers and tax them. I live about 1/2 mile from the Mexican border in Arizona. I spend a lot of time over in Sonora. If I can visit there whenever I want why can't they travel freely over here. You can't shut down the border...it doesn't work. Even the border patrol admits that they are only trying to limit the traffic, so why not open the fucker up to all law abiding Mexican citizens?


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