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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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NYT reports that Trump is having a very hard time finding a bail company willing to front 500 mil for his appeal. I guess they're concerned about his ability to pay...

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Trump has gone full senile.  Apparently at a rally this weekend, the teleprompter was out, and he started going off about:
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“You know what’s interesting? Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him? Every swing state, Biden beat Obama but in every other state, he got killed,”


:lolwut:


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
NYT reports that Trump is having a very hard time finding a bail company willing to front 500 mil for his appeal. I guess they're concerned about his ability to pay...


Probably more so his willingness lol. But either way a bail bondsman doesn’t have much to gain from being owed this big of a favor. What’s Trump gonna do, give him lucrative federal vbaul bondsman contracts?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice Nine] * 2
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Ice9 said:
Trump has gone full senile.  Apparently at a rally this weekend, the teleprompter was out, and he started going off about:
Quote:
“You know what’s interesting? Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him? Every swing state, Biden beat Obama but in every other state, he got killed,”


:lolwut:


Maybe he’s referring to turnout compared to 2008/2012? Who knows, listening to both these guys talk is like reading the Zodiac letters.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It doesn't bother me if they get a name mixed up or something, the whole talking about events that never happened at all gets concerning.  I think it says something about US politics that I expect a.certain level of bullshit, but that it also should be plausible bullshit and not straight fantasy.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Especially when it comes to foreign policy? Republicans holding Ukraine aide hostage so they can get more border camps?

Foreign policy is what changes the LEAST between the two parties, that’s why it’s laughable for chop to suggest Trump is some revolutionary force.


I didn't say he would be a 'revolutionary' force. It's like people don't read what I fucking say or something.

What I actually said was that we need someone in power willing to put pressure on Macron (and others) to let them know that sending their troops to Ukraine is absolutely not an option under any circumstances. That person isn't Biden. It is a pretty sure bet though that Trump would.

All it would take at this point for the Ukraine war to escalate to a level beyond even the Cuban missile crisis would be for Macron, or Finland, or Estonia, or Poland, or any of these other jackoffs to follow through on their threat to send a "coalition of the willing" forces into Ukraine proper. That's a recipe for instant WW3, because then Russia will bomb air and military bases in these countries, and then the US will get dragged into it.

And you might think well, they're just blowing smoke out of their asses. That might be true right now, but what about a year from now when Russian forces are once again in a position to threaten Kiev? The hysteria will be off the charts. You might not care, but the fact is that it is dangerous, and I care.

There is no other conflict in the world right now which has a similar level of potential for extreme escalation. So yes, it is worth putting Trump into power over this one issue.

I'm not saying he will, but if he actually manages to improve something anywhere else in the world, or manages to do something about mass migration and/or inflation, then that's just a bonus. Because it's already a given that Biden will do nothing, or will even deliberately make it worse. With Trump, there is a chance, however small.

If we could get someone better than Trump into office, I'd be all for it, but we live in a world where compromises must be made, and we can't afford to sit around and dream about unrealistic scenarios while the question of whether or not there will be a NATO-Russia war is going to be on the line this election.

I reiterate: a vote for Biden is a vote for more escalation with Russia. A vote for Trump is a vote to reign in this escalation somewhat, atleast enough to eliminate any chance of ww3 during Trump's term.

Some people might not like that, but too bad. This is how it is.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice Nine]
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Politics has always involved an element of bullshit, everywhere in the world.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said:
The Ecstatic said:
Especially when it comes to foreign policy? Republicans holding Ukraine aide hostage so they can get more border camps?

Foreign policy is what changes the LEAST between the two parties, that’s why it’s laughable for chop to suggest Trump is some revolutionary force.


I didn't say he would be a 'revolutionary' force. It's like people don't read what I fucking say or something.

What I actually said was that we need someone in power willing to put pressure on Macron (and others) to let them know that sending their troops to Ukraine is absolutely not an option under any circumstances. That person isn't Biden. It is a pretty sure bet though that Trump would.


That's a fair point.

Though I can certainly see him escalating tensions with China, which is much worse in my book.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (03/18/24 10:42 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: chopstick] * 1
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but what about a year from now when Russian forces are once again in a position to threaten Kiev?


 
  It's going to take a whole year ? Lol . That's so funny . How many Russians will die by then ?
    It's kinda funny Russians overwhelming    voted for this . You would think they wouldn't need conscription if that were actually the case .  If Putin really got 90% of the vote I would expect Russians to be mobilizing themselves .


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: chopstick] * 1
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chopstick said:
It's like people don't read what I fucking say or something.




:yeahgoodadvice:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Psilynut2]
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If we're going to talk lesser of two evils... between Biden and Trump, one of the two has proven himself a shameless butcher, and the other has yet to do that.

We can speculate what Trump will or won't do... but he hasn't sponsored a genocide. Yet.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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That's a laugher.  Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.  Which the Palestinians then protested, and 4 of which were killed.  Given your convoluted logic employed everywhere else, I feel comfortable saying Trump directly killed those 4 Palestinians.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice Nine] * 1
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Ice9 said:
That's a laugher.  Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.  Which the Palestinians then protested, and 4 of which were killed.  Given your convoluted logic employed everywhere else, I feel comfortable saying Trump directly killed those 4 Palestinians.


That's 30,000 less than have been killed in the last few months. I think Trump might be more willing to respond to public pressure than Biden. Who knows, though :shrug:

You dont.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Biden is losing in every single swing state because of Gaza.

George Galloway just beat labor and the Conservative party in the UK over Gaza. Neither party even took second place. He took more votes than everyone else combined.

Israel is losing the PR battle, and Biden is the biggest recipient of their blood money in Washington.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Ice9 said:
That's a laugher.  Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.  Which the Palestinians then protested, and 4 of which were killed.  Given your convoluted logic employed everywhere else, I feel comfortable saying Trump directly killed those 4 Palestinians.


That's 30,000 less than have been killed in the last few months. I think Trump might be more willing to respond to public pressure than Biden. Who knows, though :shrug:

You dont.


Ask yourself which party is more invested in an Israeli state and you will have your answer.  Both are not going to stop Israel, that is for damn sure.  One believes the Jewish people must be in control of the holy land during end times.  :shrug:
    Claiming one politician is better than another simply because you lack knowledge of their position, when it is commonly known, is a you problem.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice Nine] * 1
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No.. I'm aware that Trump is also pro-Israel. What I said was: He may be more susceptible to public pressure than Biden. Particularly given the fact that Biden is the number one recipient of Israeli $$$ in Washington, and has been a self proclaimed zionist for his entire life.

As far as Trump is concerned, you have to look at the man, not the party. Trump wants to be liked more than anything. There is a small chance that he would succumb to public pressure. More chance than with Biden.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (03/18/24 11:27 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Trump is not susceptible to public pressure, trump is susceptible to whoever slips a 20 in his pocket.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
Trump is not susceptible to public pressure, trump is susceptible to whoever slips a 20 in his pocket.


Israel put over a million dollars in Bidens pocket.

Shiiit... you want to talk about bribery? Lol


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (03/18/24 11:40 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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I wonder how much Bezos, Musk and The Koch Brother paid Netanyahu to invade Gaza.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
I wonder how much Bezos, Musk and The Koch Brother paid Netanyahu to invade Gaza.


Lol...

Huh?


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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