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It's wrong that things are so much cheaper to make over there than here. When he talks about rugs and curtains for his hotels, it's the same, he'd love to buy them here but because of bad govt policy, he can't. THAT'S what he wants to fix
With libs always claiming to support the middle class, you would think they would support reviving the manufacturing sector. ( insert crazy strawman shit here )
So you want to help the middle class by eliminating laws that guarantee them decent working conditions and a minimum wage? Making the middle class poorer isn't helping them.
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Trump is just a talker.
At least he's talking about the right things, what has Obama said about globalization the past 8 years? He says it's a basic fact of life and deal with it, that's unacceptable.
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That video came out 4 years ago, and at the end, David Letterman said "Let's just shut down the Donald Trump Factory in Beijing" to which Trump responded "I would love to".
It never happened. Trump is just a talker.
TRUMP THE TALKING TURD.
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Just read that Michael Bloomberg wants to candidate as well. Would be funny,two billionaires fighting each other 
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It's wrong that things are so much cheaper to make over there than here. When he talks about rugs and curtains for his hotels, it's the same, he'd love to buy them here but because of bad govt policy, he can't. THAT'S what he wants to fix
With libs always claiming to support the middle class, you would think they would support reviving the manufacturing sector. ( insert crazy strawman shit here )
So you want to help the middle class by eliminating laws that guarantee them decent working conditions and a minimum wage? Making the middle class poorer isn't helping them.
Wow, you're interpretation of what I wrote can only be described as completely retarded...
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Actually, your own interpretation of what you wrote is completely retarded.
How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages? 
If you say by eliminating Government regulations, please provide a specific example.
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Bloomberg? Old Sugary drinks are bad for you? What a fucking control freak. Isn't he the same asshole who had an airconditioner installed in his car window that hisservants would hook up to power when he was stuck in NY Traffic?
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Reply fail? I never mentioned Bloomberg. 
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Actually, your own interpretation of what you wrote is completely retarded.
How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?
If you say by eliminating Government regulations, please provide a specific example.
It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?
How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?
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It will still cost more for the US to make stuff in the US.
You can't get away from the fact that chinese workers are paid poorly and most of the raw materials are there already. if you have to ship everything to the US and then you pay US workers a reasonable wage, it will cost more than if it were made in China. Even if its $50 more per unit more, its stil significant
true that in time, the US could rebuild its manufacturing capabilities but wages are a big factor in establishing value on the product. You would probably need a regime of protectionism in order to keep this viable.
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I'm fairly certain that a Trump presidency would be beneficial to the USA.
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But to whom?
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But to whom?
The blacks and hispanics
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what?
why?
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How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?
It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?
If you can come up with other valid reasons why China is cheaper, please share.
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How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?
No, because a foreign corporation engaged in a US trade or business is taxed at regular US corporate tax rates on income from US sources. Additionally, many Chinese goods are subject to import duties (which may go away if we implement TPP).
So no, taxation is not a factor. Once again, how can Trump manufacture things cheaper in the US, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?
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How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?
It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?
If you can come up with other valid reasons why China is cheaper, please share.
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hostileuniverse said:
How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?
No, because a foreign corporation engaged in a US trade or business is taxed at regular US corporate tax rates on income from US sources. Additionally, many Chinese goods are subject to import duties (which may go away if we implement TPP).
So no, taxation is not a factor. Once again, how can Trump manufacture things cheaper in the US, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?
It's called tariffs, the US doesn't have to "manufacture things cheaper" than China, just cheaper after a 35-40% tariff!!
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what?
why?
Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.
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what?
why?
Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.
Positive racism. Assuming they're all poor, but wishing they could do better.
Beautiful
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what?
why?
Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.
Positive racism. Assuming they're all poor, but wishing they could do better.
Beautiful
Obama whined about racism everyday as he fucked over his own people, Trump will actually help minorities.
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It's called tariffs, the US doesn't have to "manufacture things cheaper" than China, just cheaper after a 35-40% tariff!!
Exactly.
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