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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28685883 - 03/04/24 07:52 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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We’re just trying to prosecute him for crimes.
I don’t think that’s a waste of time. I think it’s a precedent that the president is not above the law. A lot of people seem to complain. I don’t see what’s to complain about. If I had done even a fraction of the crimes Donald Trump has. I would be in prison right now.
Yet he still sits on his fat ass free as a bird. That’s how rich and separated he is from regular society. He still needs to go to court and defend himself. I think that’s the least that we could right now.

The fact that his fans like him more for being brought to court. Reflects poorly on them. Doesn’t change the fact that he needs to be brought to court.




They literally changed the law in New York so they could go after him during an election year. They've had 30 years to go after him for that "rape" charge... but they chose to do so during an election year. They have had many years to go after him for most of the other charges, but chose to during an election year.

These charges are politically motivated, and have nothing to do with seeking justice, unfortunately. If they did, I would be 100% supportive. I don't want my country devolving into a piece of shit banana republic, where the party in power charges their political opponents with a litany of crimes, in order to jail the opposition.

As I have said, if this were purely about high-minded justice... I'd be fully supportive. It's not. I have loathed Trump since long before he even ran for president. He is a cartoonishly despicable character, and always has been.



So you do not think women who were raped have the right to sue their attacker in civil court?  You are in favor of the old way of applying pressure from police and family and friends of raped women that they don't matter and should just keep their mouths shut? 
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They changed the law to allow that rape charge to be brought. It was too old to be brought to court, and there was no material evidence, because it happened 30 years ago, supposedly..




Many states changed the rape laws to allow older accusations. It had nothing to do with Trump. He's just a rapist who got caught in the new  legal environment. 




You're wrong. They literally changed the law to go after Trump. Less than 12 hours after the change went into effect, the lawsuit was brought against him.



I find it curious you are against a law that allows potential victims of sexual assault to have their moment in court.  You conveniently never mention that the victim in this case still needed to prove it, and did.  2500 women you would prefer to deny a tiny amount of justice to.  Nothing high minded about your position.

https://apnews.com/rticle/sexual-abuse-lawsuits-new-york-6fd16aa4cc992c089e91c6fef064f375


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28685884 - 03/04/24 07:52 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

that your point is naive

also do you have a problem with making it easier to hold sexual abusers/rapists accountable?

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: mushboy]
    #28685901 - 03/04/24 08:03 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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that your point is naive

also do you have a problem with making it easier to hold sexual abusers/rapists accountable?




No... you are both missing my point entirely. I don't give a shit about them changing the law. It's just a very bad look for Democrats to do it, with the goal of going after their political opposition during an election year. And yes, that clearly was the goal.

My point is that Democrats once again have delivered Donald Trump the presidency on a silver fucking platter. It's disgraceful. They are as politically savvy as a fucking child having a temper tantrum.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28685902 - 03/04/24 08:05 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

why use his description to attack his opponents?

…weird..

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28685917 - 03/04/24 08:13 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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There is no evidence that New York adopted its law specifically to target Trump. Significant advocacy existed for the statute of limitations window passed by New York before Carroll filed her lawsuits, and other states—including Louisiana, California, and North Carolina—have passed similar laws.




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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28685935 - 03/04/24 08:26 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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There is no evidence that New York adopted its law specifically to target Trump. Significant advocacy existed for the statute of limitations window passed by New York before Carroll filed her lawsuits, and other states—including Louisiana, California, and North Carolina—have passed similar laws.







There certainly IS evidence, though. Where did you get that garbage from?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: mushboy]
    #28685936 - 03/04/24 08:26 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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why use his description to attack his opponents?

…weird..




Huh?

Make sense, bro.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28685943 - 03/04/24 08:33 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Trump gets to stay on the ballots

:fuck:

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Tulipslave]
    #28685944 - 03/04/24 08:34 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Trump gets to stay on the ballots

:fuck:




Called that shit..

Bunch fuckin retards running the henhouse...


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28685947 - 03/04/24 08:37 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Trump gets to stay on the ballots

:fuck:




Called that shit..

Bunch fuckin retards running the henhouse...





Which retards and which henhouse?

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Tulipslave] * 2
    #28685956 - 03/04/24 08:42 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Democrats have never been on the internet before.

The number one rule is “don’t feed the trolls” and they just keep FEEDIN HIM and FEEDIN HIM.  Like that prelude in the M.E.T.H.O.D. Man song

:somefunnyshit:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #28685973 - 03/04/24 08:59 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Democrats have never been on the internet before.

The number one rule is “don’t feed the trolls” and they just keep FEEDIN HIM and FEEDIN HIM.  Like that prelude in the M.E.T.H.O.D. Man song

:somefunnyshit:




:whathesaid:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Tulipslave] * 2
    #28685974 - 03/04/24 09:00 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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There is no evidence that New York adopted its law specifically to target Trump. Significant advocacy existed for the statute of limitations window passed by New York before Carroll filed her lawsuits, and other states—including Louisiana, California, and North Carolina—have passed similar laws.







HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Where did you get this from? Fucking Gemini AI? ChatGPT?

So stupid.


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Trump gets to stay on the ballots

:fuck:




The Supreme Court might be the last institution remaining that passes rulings based on the constitution / what the law actually says instead of bowing to political pressure and the Reddit horde on every single issue.

I'm hearing it was 9-0 in favor of letting Trump run which means even the leftist judges voted in Trump's favor on that one. That is very, very telling, because those leftist judges definitely do not like Trump. It means that voting against Trump on this issue would have been completely unconstitutional to the point that it would be ridiculous, even for people like Ketanji Jackson.

As we speak Democrats everywhere are having complete and total meltdowns on Reddit and most other social media platforms. Good. On a side note, these people are insane - they legitimately believe the Supreme Court had no reason for this and the justices are all secretly traitors working for Putin.

Imagine if the Reddit mob got their way and managed to run things the way they wanted. You could throw the constitution in the trash because everything would be decided based purely on their feelings of how things "should" be and on their political agenda, with zero sense of morality or decency or fairness whatsoever. Everything would be decided based on their utterly hysterical narratives and general stupidity.

The left and all the hack judges in the lower courts who tried to pull this shit should be ashamed of themselves. Their arguments for doing it were pathetic and now they have handed Trump a second term on a silver platter.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: chopstick]
    #28685977 - 03/04/24 09:05 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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There is no evidence that New York adopted its law specifically to target Trump. Significant advocacy existed for the statute of limitations window passed by New York before Carroll filed her lawsuits, and other states—including Louisiana, California, and North Carolina—have passed similar laws.







HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Where did you get this from? Fucking Gemini AI? ChatGPT?

So stupid.


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Trump gets to stay on the ballots

:fuck:




The Supreme Court might be the last institution remaining that passes rulings based on the constitution / what the law actually says instead of bowing to political pressure and the Reddit horde on every single issue.

I'm hearing it was 9-0 in favor of letting Trump run which means even the leftist judges voted in Trump's favor on that one. That is very, very telling, because those leftist judges definitely do not like Trump. It means that voting against Trump on this issue would have been completely unconstitutional to the point that it would be ridiculous, even for people like Ketanji Jackson.

As we speak Democrats everywhere are having complete and total meltdowns on Reddit and most other social media platforms. Good. On a side note, these people are insane - they legitimately believe the Supreme Court had no reason for this and the justices are all secretly traitors working for Putin.

Imagine if the Reddit mob got their way and managed to run things the way they wanted. You could throw the constitution in the trash because everything would be decided based purely on their feelings of how things "should" be and on their political agenda, with zero sense of morality or decency or fairness whatsoever. Everything would be decided based on their utterly hysterical narratives and general stupidity.

The left and all the hack judges in the lower courts who tried to pull this shit should be ashamed of themselves. Their arguments for doing it were pathetic and now they have handed Trump a second term on a silver platter.




:whathesaid:

Ya know... Chop gets it.

Apparently the Supreme Court is the last adult in the room.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28685990 - 03/04/24 09:22 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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There is no evidence that New York adopted its law specifically to target Trump. Significant advocacy existed for the statute of limitations window passed by New York before Carroll filed her lawsuits, and other states—including Louisiana, California, and North Carolina—have passed similar laws.







There certainly IS evidence, though. Where did you get that garbage from?



What is the evidence?  You're trying to ask me to prove a lack of evidence, which is evidenced by lack.  So provide your positive proof.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28685991 - 03/04/24 09:25 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Apparently the Supreme Court is the last adult in the room.



This quote aligns strongly with your desire for women to not be able to seek redress for rape.  Guess we know your idealogical persuasion.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28686019 - 03/04/24 09:44 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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They changed the law to allow that rape charge to be brought. It was too old to be brought to court, and there was no material evidence, because it happened 30 years ago, supposedly..




Many states changed the rape laws to allow older accusations. It had nothing to do with Trump. He's just a rapist who got caught in the new  legal environment. 




You're wrong. They literally changed the law to go after Trump. Less than 12 hours after the change went into effect, the lawsuit was brought against him.




You're talking about Carroll's 2nd lawsuit against Trump in 2022. Her first was in 2019 for $5 million. He could have got off cheap. Two years of delays (highlighted by team Trump's failed argument that she would have to sue the U.S. government and not him), and Trump's continued defamation allowed her to take advantage of a new law, and add a second suit that brought the total to $83 million.

Trump is still telling his crowds it was all a lie. Carroll could sue him again and her lawyer would barely have to work on the case.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Ice9]
    #28686021 - 03/04/24 09:45 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Apparently the Supreme Court is the last adult in the room.



This quote aligns strongly with your desire for women to not be able to seek redress for rape.  Guess we know your idealogical persuasion.




Dude... I know you're infatuated with me, and have been for some time. Aaand once again, it shows.

Nowhere in any of my posts have I said anything that would cause you to come to that conclusion.

By the way, women aren't the only people who get raped.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28686029 - 03/04/24 09:50 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

I'm good at understanding subtext.  You think a law giving 2500 women a chance to confront their accused assaulter in court was targeted at Trump and is democratic election interference.  You think a supreme Court that has been stacked with idealogues who overturned roe v wade after saying it was settled law, whom have been shown to have received preferential treatment from billionaires with cases before the court are "adults in the room".  Your opinions on women may not be well formed in your mind, but your various positions stated in these threads makes them clear to others.  :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28686031 - 03/04/24 09:52 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)


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By the way, women aren't the only people who get raped.



No shit Sherlock, no one ever stated that strawman except you.  Now I wonder why you felt the need to state it...


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