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trump fix the country?
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Do you think trump will help make America great agian or just a bunch of racist rednecks backing him?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: robidoe] * 3
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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: robidoe]
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It's not that I think all of his ideas are bad, but I believe most independents and many Republicans think Trump is a very socially undesirable human being. I still think the GOP will find somebody normal to run, somebody who hasn't yet announced they're running.

    But they have a big split in the Party between the establishment, and the Tea Party and fundamentalists. The former would definitely like to see somebody else, and definitely not one of the current front-runners.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: robidoe]
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robidoe said:
Do you think trump will help make America great agian or just a bunch of racist rednecks backing him?


Neither.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I think trump does a good job exposing the Republican Party for their racist agenda. I view trump as being very self-rightous and in common situation,  if A pedestrian were walking towards a crosswalk trump would be the driver who speeds up to beat the pedestrian through the cross walk because he wants nothing to do with you .. Except run you over  ,if he hits you with his car ,It doesn't matter because trump is a company -NOT A PERSON
well no shit he's a person , but not with common people interests ,
imagine having dinner with trump lol.
He Probually would make you pay the bill even though he's got your money on check -laughing and callin us bitches-
trump feels like a Mac daddy pimp
and the american people love his gimmick
We are fueling his fire.
Well, I doubt his voters see trump as being a gimmick otherwise they wouldn't be voting republican.
I really fuckin hope trump makes the ballot , trump and sanders. Its like many people who vote republican but don't like trump are either going to do the non American thing -not vote and be on the same level as a felon , or vote for the commie socilist lmao,

Some people just love Trump as much as they love hot dogs in their buns , I always preferred cutting mine into little peices.
In other words trump will plummet dick into this country- harder than the peope of this country have gotten dicked with regan or bush.
Trump is a company man till the bitter end and will sell us as corporate slaves to Cambodia if he could, so voting for trump will enslave you.

  trump and repbulicans alike wants to control and rule the world and that doesn't include YOU ,ME, OR ANYBODY with them because republicans think people are always telling them what to do - out to take their money and jobs when its in fact the republicans who tell us what to do, hoard the money , not pay us well and globalize our jobs into other countries,

. Give modern day republicans they're own island and watch how long it takes before they kill eachother for the monetary value.
Give democrats an island watch them turn it into a economically feasible country , and guns will be permitted.
Bannana guns ... Just kidding real guns that shoot real bullets.
On a side note ,  I imagine some dumbfounded people if they were told guns were fake and nobody died from bullets when a gun got fired, these people would go out and shoot others all because some secondary source tells them "its all your imagination , guns don't kill people , we are always living , life is just a dream we will wake up in the morning" and back it up with religion.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: niteman]
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The only thing trump will fix is Trump's ego.  Elect Trump--say hello super facist america.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: starfire_xes]
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Lol I've been pulling for Nader every time he ran. Oh well a man can dream. Also I don't vote :lol:

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: niteman]
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niteman said:
Lol I've been pulling for Nader every time he ran. Oh well a man can dream. Also I don't vote :lol:



trump already went establishment, he is now in favor of ethanol subsidies.  so much for ending cronyism in Washington. :lolsy:


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: starfire_xes]
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TRUMP SMAAAASH


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: robidoe]
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robidoe said:
Do you think trump will help make America great agian or just a bunch of racist rednecks backing him?


Trump is now mainstream, being anti-PC is now popular.

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman]
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To become as rich as Trump you got to be quite ruthless. I'm just wondering why he wants to be a politician. It's quite usual that someone goes from politics to economy but the other way around? :laugh:


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Hindi420]
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Hindi420 said:
To become as rich as Trump you got to be quite ruthless. I'm just wondering why he wants to be a politician. It's quite usual that someone goes from politics to economy but the other way around? :laugh:


He has a large ego, but he also has enough money to say whatever he wants to in politics, no other politician has that luxury.

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman]
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its also an extension of his economic power. rich people always want political power, thats what a lot of money is used for, why not be in a position of political power as the President yourself. It also has a celebrity to it and its a position that has many perks.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Tipote]
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He might possibly actually care about the country that has blessed him with so much, maybe there is nothing nefarious about his presidential ambitions:shrug:


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Trump and other rich people own the politicians so there's no need to run for office to get even richer, that speculation doesn't cut it.

Trump's plan on economic tariffs would cost the rich trillions in profits, so he's not representing their interests with his rhetoric. Trump is a enough of an egotistic madman to fuck over the very rich in this country, he doesn't give a fuck.

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman] * 1
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I doubt he'll follow through.  His clothing line is in China.



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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I doubt he'll follow through.  His clothing line is in China.



So because his clothing line makes ties in China, his ideas on tariffs are empty rhetoric? :lolwut:

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman]
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His clothing line being in China actually backs up his point. It's wrong that things are so much cheaper to make over there than here. When he talks about rugs and curtains for his hotels, it's the same, he'd love to buy them here but because of bad govt policy, he can't. THAT'S what he wants to fix

With libs always claiming to support the middle class, you would think they would support reviving the manufacturing sector. ( insert crazy strawman shit here )


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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That video came out 4 years ago, and at the end, David Letterman said "Let's just shut down the Donald Trump Factory in Beijing" to which Trump responded "I would love to".

It never happened.  Trump is just a talker.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
It's wrong that things are so much cheaper to make over there than here. When he talks about rugs and curtains for his hotels, it's the same, he'd love to buy them here but because of bad govt policy, he can't. THAT'S what he wants to fix

With libs always claiming to support the middle class, you would think they would support reviving the manufacturing sector. ( insert crazy strawman shit here )


So you want to help the middle class by eliminating laws that guarantee them decent working conditions and a minimum wage?  Making the middle class poorer isn't helping them.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Trump is just a talker.


At least he's talking about the right things, what has Obama said about globalization the past 8 years?  He says it's a basic fact of life and deal with it, that's unacceptable.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
That video came out 4 years ago, and at the end, David Letterman said "Let's just shut down the Donald Trump Factory in Beijing" to which Trump responded "I would love to".

It never happened.  Trump is just a talker.


TRUMP THE TALKING TURD.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: starfire_xes]
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Just read that Michael Bloomberg wants to candidate as well. Would be funny,two billionaires fighting each other :laugh:


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
hostileuniverse said:
It's wrong that things are so much cheaper to make over there than here. When he talks about rugs and curtains for his hotels, it's the same, he'd love to buy them here but because of bad govt policy, he can't. THAT'S what he wants to fix

With libs always claiming to support the middle class, you would think they would support reviving the manufacturing sector. ( insert crazy strawman shit here )


So you want to help the middle class by eliminating laws that guarantee them decent working conditions and a minimum wage?  Making the middle class poorer isn't helping them.


Wow, you're interpretation of what I wrote can only be described as completely retarded...


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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Actually, your own interpretation of what you wrote is completely retarded.

How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?  :popcorn:

If you say by eliminating Government regulations, please provide a specific example.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Bloomberg?  Old Sugary drinks are bad for you?  What a fucking control freak.  Isn't he the same asshole who had an airconditioner installed in his car window that hisservants would hook up to power when he was stuck in NY Traffic?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: starfire_xes]
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Reply fail?  I never mentioned Bloomberg.  :tongue:


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Actually, your own interpretation of what you wrote is completely retarded.

How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?  :popcorn:

If you say by eliminating Government regulations, please provide a specific example.


It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?

How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: hostileuniverse]
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It will still cost more for the US to make stuff in the US.

You can't get away from the fact that chinese workers are paid poorly and most of the raw materials are there already. if you have to ship everything to the US and then you pay US workers a reasonable wage, it will cost more than if it were made in China. Even if its $50 more per unit more, its stil significant

true that in time, the US could rebuild its manufacturing capabilities but wages are a big factor in establishing value on the product. You would probably need a regime of protectionism in order to keep this viable.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Tipote] * 3
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I'm fairly certain that a Trump presidency would be beneficial to the USA.


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Patlal]
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But to whom?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
But to whom?


The blacks and hispanics


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Patlal]
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what?

why?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?


It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?


If you can come up with other valid reasons why China is cheaper, please share.

hostileuniverse said:
How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?


No, because a foreign corporation engaged in a US trade or business is taxed at regular US corporate tax rates on income from US sources.  Additionally, many Chinese goods are subject to import duties (which may go away if we implement TPP).

So no, taxation is not a factor.  Once again, how can Trump manufacture things cheaper in the US, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?


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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
hostileuniverse said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
How can the US manufacture things cheaper than China can, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?


It's always sweat shops and slave labor with you, isn't it?


If you can come up with other valid reasons why China is cheaper, please share.

hostileuniverse said:
How about reducing the burden of taxation on a business? That would certainly help, would it not?


No, because a foreign corporation engaged in a US trade or business is taxed at regular US corporate tax rates on income from US sources.  Additionally, many Chinese goods are subject to import duties (which may go away if we implement TPP).

So no, taxation is not a factor.  Once again, how can Trump manufacture things cheaper in the US, if not by eliminating decent working conditions or wages?



It's called tariffs, the US doesn't have to "manufacture things cheaper" than China, just cheaper after a 35-40% tariff!!

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
what?

why?


Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tipote said:
what?

why?


Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.


Positive racism. Assuming they're all poor, but wishing they could do better.

Beautiful

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
qman said:
Tipote said:
what?

why?


Deporting illegals and putting up tariffs benefits the low-skilled workers the most, so blacks and Hispanics would see the largest improvement on standard of living.


Positive racism. Assuming they're all poor, but wishing they could do better.

Beautiful

:awepreciation:


Obama whined about racism everyday as he fucked over his own people, Trump will actually help minorities.

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Re: trump fix the country? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
It's called tariffs, the US doesn't have to "manufacture things cheaper" than China, just cheaper after a 35-40% tariff!!


Exactly.


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