Bigbadwooof said:

The honest truth is... I fucking HATE Falcon, and for good reason, just like the rest of you.

I mean, let's face it.. He's right about prettttty much everything. In fact, this website is littered with graphs and charts that demonstrate as much. It's not really fair. While I admire such qualities as a keen wit, and the sort of mental dexterity he demonstrates tirelessly, day in and day out... I, like you, also covet those things. My jealousy is a black jealousy. Like a communist Russia kind of jealousy.

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christopera said:

He's pretty biased. For example, the inflation graph is based on crazy inflation rates at the start of the war. He ignores inflation rates before the war which were much lower, then he likes to dance around that with a bunch semantics. "But the graph is only for war time inflation" meanwhile the general population in Russia is losing their asses with 18% inflation or whatever.

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christopera said:

Do we care about people or do we care about providing graphs that make inflation look like it has decreased while it doubled in 6 months?

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christopera said:

He's technically correct but also totally dishonest, at least in this case. I'm not saying he's a big fat poo poo head, I am not saying he is dumb or even remotely stupid (clearly he's quite intelligent), but I do get tired of the games. I get tired of the picking and choosing instead of painting a picture that is true to the entire situation. "Hey I found a source from an obscure website that supports my angle" and "meh, that article was too old for me to consider." That's the kind of shit we are dealing with. It must be nice to play the "source or make believe" game while getting to ignore sources when it is convenient.

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christopera said:

"Technically correct" is only the best kind of correct if it applies to the situation at large and not just the finite details that somebody has chosen to be correct about. The Ukraine thread is a thesis on picking and choosing and participating in confirmation bias and it is lead by about three people. Most of the rest are willing to discuss things honestly. I am not saying there isn't bias the other way, but sure as hell there are a few leaders with a massive (and crazy) confirmation bias that they are unwilling to admit to.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Bigbadwooof said:

The honest truth is... I fucking HATE Falcon, and for good reason, just like the rest of you.

I mean, let's face it.. He's right about prettttty much everything. In fact, this website is littered with graphs and charts that demonstrate as much. It's not really fair. While I admire such qualities as a keen wit, and the sort of mental dexterity he demonstrates tirelessly, day in and day out... I, like you, also covet those things. My jealousy is a black jealousy. Like a communist Russia kind of jealousy.

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Chopstick's another guy I like, who just posted something similar.

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That reminds me of this one time when I posted this meme and said it was blatantly obvious what the intent was and some guy said it was an ad and I asked him what they were selling and he never responded

koods said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

On Facebook

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How do I see it on my Facebook feed if it's not a paid ad?

I think you know you're full of as always.

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The rhythm is gonna get ya

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Lynnch said:

Just popped open facebook. Scrolled down past three posts and an ad, and get a 'suggested' post- for a group (or community? whatever they call it) the content of which is just a meme. Not an ad.

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koods said:

That reminds me of this one time when I posted this meme and said it was blatantly obvious what the intent was and some guy said it was an ad and I asked him what they were selling and he never responded

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

christopera said:

He's pretty biased. For example, the inflation graph is based on crazy inflation rates at the start of the war. He ignores inflation rates before the war which were much lower, then he likes to dance around that with a bunch semantics. "But the graph is only for war time inflation" meanwhile the general population in Russia is losing their asses with 18% inflation or whatever.

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No, I don't ignore that.  My graph made it obvious this is happening.  What I'm saying is that Russia's Inflation Is Leveling Out While America Hits 40-Year High

christopera said:

Do we care about people or do we care about providing graphs that make inflation look like it has decreased while it doubled in 6 months?

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Of course I care about the people.  If you did too, you'd demand the US end its sanctions.

christopera said:

He's technically correct but also totally dishonest, at least in this case. I'm not saying he's a big fat poo poo head, I am not saying he is dumb or even remotely stupid (clearly he's quite intelligent), but I do get tired of the games. I get tired of the picking and choosing instead of painting a picture that is true to the entire situation. "Hey I found a source from an obscure website that supports my angle" and "meh, that article was too old for me to consider." That's the kind of shit we are dealing with. It must be nice to play the "source or make believe" game while getting to ignore sources when it is convenient.

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Once again, my graph made all of this very clear, nothing was being hidden.

It was koods who was crying about looking at the last 3 months, when he wants to show the last year which paints a worse picture (and I'll acknowledge it does).

christopera said:

"Technically correct" is only the best kind of correct if it applies to the situation at large and not just the finite details that somebody has chosen to be correct about. The Ukraine thread is a thesis on picking and choosing and participating in confirmation bias and it is lead by about three people. Most of the rest are willing to discuss things honestly. I am not saying there isn't bias the other way, but sure as hell there are a few leaders with a massive (and crazy) confirmation bias that they are unwilling to admit to.

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Again, I'll admit whatever the facts tell us.  That's why I asked if you have better data?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Lynnch said:

Just popped open facebook. Scrolled down past three posts and an ad, and get a 'suggested' post- for a group (or community? whatever they call it) the content of which is just a meme. Not an ad.

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So then Facebook promoted the Osama Bin Laden meme, not Russia?

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christopera said:

Your own link has Russia's inflation for the last 6 months at 17% (it's a 2 month old article). Meanwhile the US is at 8.5%. Once again you just ignore the information to paint a picture you want to paint. And that is 8.5% over a year, not 17% in 6 months, which is double what it was prewar (so equal to the US), but it doubled basically the moment the war started. Inflation is also measured month over month (or something dumb like weekly on your graph) in your information. So it 17% over the 17% it grew the previous month, meaning it is growing the price of goods nearly exponentially. And, as you well know, US inflation started growing in 2020 when Trump started handing out money to everybody with near zero percent interest rates, and it has only gotten worse, somewhat in part to Putin deciding to blow people up. Moreover, my mortgage for example was refinanced to nearly 2% and I reduced my term from 30 years (26 remaining) to 20 years and my payment stayed exactly the same. Meanwhile, in Russia the interest rates are currently at 8%. Imagine buying a house with 17% inflation and 8% interest rates. On top of that, Russia is expecting a 5% reduction in its economy and expecting a 12% reduction in GDP. Do you think these are good numbers? Or are you blowing smoke up our asses?

I think, you think, that people are dumb enough to believe the shtick. You do a nice job of picking and choosing when it is convenient for you. It wasn't this way in the past, I don't know what changed.

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The "picture I want to paint" is the picture of how things are progressing as the war goes on.  I'm not disputing or hiding any data, as you've agreed, you just want me to highlight the obvious for you.

You brought up interest, so let's look at the interest trend:



Obviously, the trend is going in the right direction for Russia, and the wrong direction for the US.  Normally, I'd end it there, but just for you, since you seem to believe you're the only one here who knows how to read very simple graphs, the current interest rate in Russia is 8.0% (excpected to be 7.5% by quarter's end), and it is 2.5% in the US (expected to be 2.75% by quarter's end).

koods said:

It’s been two years. He’s deranged. He wants to be installed as president.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Sounds like he just wants it acknowledged that the Government interfered.

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koods said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Sounds like he just wants it acknowledged that the Government interfered.

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They didn’t. The FBI didn’t ask anyone to hide the Hunter Biden story.  Listen to what Zuckerberg said.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Facebook was instructed to censor content and Zuckerberg said that, "This story fit the sort of content they were told to censor".

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