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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
The testimonies in the case where we have evidence got EVERYTHING wrong. But we should dismiss them and listen to the other flawed observers. Gotcha.

I am starting to see how you form a belief system by disregarding facts and adopting fantasy.


So does it just go black when we die or...? I'm not criticizing your opinion if you actually have one but it seems as though you got on this post simply to argue rather than actually contribute.

OrgoneConclusion said:
think it's wonderful that while the majority of us are trapped in ignorance, that we have one wise and glorious soul among us that has the inside track on what is truly going on.

:imspecial:


This was the first thing you said on this post.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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There you go again. Ducking questions based upon what you wrote, then creating questions having nothing to do with what I wrote.

Ever head of honest debate?


I asked those questions ... which you ignored, well before you responded with your question.  Pay attention.  I'll ask again ... why does the brain organized these elaborate worlds and interaction with these spiritual beings in the first place? WHY?  What is the point?  If we are dying and the game is over, what's the whole point?  The body and brain has absolutely no problem with allowing agonizing pain in the death process so why, right at the end, does the brain create a spiritually charged event that suggests a transition out of the body and into a new, afterlife reality?  WHY?????


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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I'll ask again ... why does the brain organized these elaborate worlds and interaction with these spiritual beings in the first place? WHY?  What is the point?


I am hardly required to answer questions not based upon something I wrote. Have you ever debated before or this a first time experience for you?


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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F all you just cease to exist


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I am starting to see how you form a belief system by disregarding facts and adopting fantasy.


It is more obvious that you are a perfect candidate to take the authorities explanation of any unexplainable phenomenon that might suggest there is more to the story than is being told.  There are eyewitnesses that explain a UFO experience that has nothing to do with the lights in those videos.  But hey, the authorities figured it out so .. case closed ... LMAO ...

Hey, if you trust your government to give you answers to these issues, more power to ya.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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I'll ask again ... why does the brain organized these elaborate worlds and interaction with these spiritual beings in the first place? WHY?  What is the point?


I am hardly required to answer questions not based upon something I wrote. Have you ever debated before or this a first time experience for you?


No worries.  I understand your frustration and limitations and your offense is the best defense default mode.  Please direct me, if you will, to the carefully defined terms of debate required for this site. 

Dude, it's an internet discussion, not a high school debate class. Grow up.


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Edited by KauaiOrca (08/27/15 09:09 PM)

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Laughingcowwa]
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Laughingcowwa said:
F all you just cease to exist


:manofapproval:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
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Quote:
I'm not criticizing your opinion if you actually have one but it seems as though you got on this post simply to argue rather than actually contribute.



Simply to argue? Philosophy centers around debate and debate consists of presenting arguments.

Everything points towards total entropy. There is nothing but fancy that points towards any sort of continuance.

YOU are a collection of memories and impressions. These are stored in the brain and the brain decays. Not too much wiggle room there.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Summation Orca style:

Believers with videos are wrong.

Believers without videos are correct.

:braindamage:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:knowwhatnevermind:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
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Sorry if I actually know what I am talking about, Danno. :ohwell:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Sorry if I actually know what I am talking about, Danno. :ohwell:


I suppose in the end we all know what we're talking about :hatsoff:


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Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:
I'm not criticizing your opinion if you actually have one but it seems as though you got on this post simpparadoxically  rather than actually contribute.



Simply to argue? Philosophy centers around debate and debate consists of presenting arguments.

Everything points to total entropy. There is nothing but fancy that points towards any sort of continuance.

YOU are a collection of memories and impressions. These are stored in the brain and the brain decays. Not too much wiggle room there.


I would say everything points to increasing complexity and order.

In the beginning of the universe..not a lot was going on. Then came fusion, stars, elements, planets, life, etc..it seems the trend towards total entropy is paradoxically leaving accelerating complexity in its wake.

Beyond life however, we can only speculate and lack of evidence OC does not equate evidence against.

On such unknowns the little that does present itself is the evidence, i think clearly there exists enough objective phenomena (nde, synchronicity, lucid dreaming/OOBE) to leave truth seekers dissatisfied with the materialism idea that human conscioussness is merely a random evolutionary phenomena, an emergent property of the brain that remains intimately attached till death when consciousness disappears and leaves behind a much slower disappearing act and yet also dissatisfied with religious belief and explanation.

I have only my experience and if its possible with myself surely its possible for others.

I have begun to take objective record of synchronicity by recording psychedelic trip sessions where myself and a few friends (at times) activate our consciousness to manifest synchronicity.
Have had some surprising success, recorded instances of stacked coincident that go well beyond the realm of mathematically improbable. Synchronicity can be proven scientifically and i am gathering the evidence as i type.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: hTx]
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hTx said:
an emergent property of the brain that remains intimately attached till death when consciousness disappears


Consciousness continues at least several minutes after you die :smile:

Source: http://www.ryot.org/life-after-death-science-study-evidence-proof-ghost/833377


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
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it all begins

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: xammy]
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Really enjoying the debate here but I feel as though oc could use a nice dose of humility and stop with the insulting rebuttals.  Your opinion is as important as anyone else's.  Otherwise, very enjoyable read.

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Sorry if I actually know what I am talking about, Danno. :ohwell:


You do seem to truly believe you know what you're talking about and show a lot of bravado in declaring that you've got some special relationship with truth.  Congratulations.  Seems like you've got it all figured out.  Well done.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: cubedryeguy]
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cubedryeguy said:
Really enjoying the debate here but I feel as though oc could use a nice dose of humility and stop with the insulting rebuttals. 


Your humility is so inspiring to us all, as is your open mindedness, curiosity and interest in hearing varying points of view.  Thanks for gracing us all with your presence.

And yet, not a single idea on why or how the brain organizes these endlessly complex other worlds that we've never seen and chooses to give us this moment of ecstatic comfort right at the moment of death that really serves  no purpose and is contrary to how painful the dying process generally is.  A far more likely scenario would be for the brain to simply blackout ... but instead, an ecstatic vision of the afterlife, advanced beings assisting with that transition and a full life review complete with advanced memory scanning ... LMAO ... And the brain just automatically does this.

Seriously, that makes no sense at all if it's just lights out and adios.


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Edited by KauaiOrca (08/28/15 08:17 AM)

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
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Blackout. Nothingness. Scary idea... Scary concept to grasp... But maybe the only definition of peace?


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Sorry if I actually know what I am talking about, Danno. :ohwell:


OC the destroyer of fools and liberator of minds. :laugh:

Keeps this forum entertaining and acts as a bane to the kooks.

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