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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22159734 - 08/29/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22159754 - 08/29/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your point is...?

Lots of people bought into his story as they did other frauds, hoaxers and exaggerators. Many NDE authors have been exposed, but the need to believe is stronger than truth.

http://www.examiner.com/article/dannion-brinkley-blinded-by-the-lies



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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22159786 - 08/29/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Your point is...?

Lots of people bought into his story as they did other frauds, hoaxers and exaggerators. Many NDE authors have been exposed, but the need to believe is stronger than truth.




Some people got caught lying and trying to make money :shrug: I guess that speaks for everyone. Must be false.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22159817 - 08/29/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As usual, you and Orca miss the point.

NDE proponents pointed to these and other false stories as evidence for something valid. Does it mean that all stories are false? No, but it shows that the discriminatory prowess of believers is highly suspect and that no NDE story had been empirically validated.

When some NDE people claimed to float above their hospital beds and watch the operation on their bodies in great detail, an experimenter put a piece of paper on top of a cabinet with a single word facing the ceiling. Now many years later, no NDEer has been able to read that word while hovering near the ceiling.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22159846 - 08/29/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, you're right.
I missed the point of that


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #22160962 - 08/29/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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As usual, you and Orca miss the point.

NDE proponents pointed to these and other false stories as evidence for something valid. Does it mean that all stories are false? No, but it shows that the discriminatory prowess of believers is highly suspect and that no NDE story had been empirically validated.

When some NDE people claimed to float above their hospital beds and watch the operation on their bodies in great detail, an experimenter put a piece of paper on top of a cabinet with a single word facing the ceiling. Now many years later, no NDEer has been able to read that word while hovering near the ceiling.




I have no doubt at all that a fairly high percentage of "hard to believe reports" whether they are about NDE's, UFO's, Ghosts, encounters with advanced beings, etc. are false, made up, mistakes, etc.  And I mean a fairly high percentage with many things that motivate that.

But making the leap that because some people game any system that EVERYONE is wrong is idiotic.  To claim that every person that has reported an NDE is lying about it is utterly and complete nonsense.  I view these reports with some skepticism.  My mother had one of these experiences during childbirth ... She nearly died.  I'm fairly certain she wasn't lying when she told us about it.  Her family is the only people she ever told.  I would guess for every person that tried to cash in on a fake story there are thousands that never report it for fear of ridicule by people like you.

Best perspective?  An open mind with some street smarts to smell an obvious angle if it exists.  There are some serious studies being done on this, BTW.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22160974 - 08/29/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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When some NDE people claimed to float above their hospital beds and watch the operation on their bodies in great detail, an experimenter put a piece of paper on top of a cabinet with a single word facing the ceiling. Now many years later, no NDEer has been able to read that word while hovering near the ceiling.




Once again, scientists doing research are proving you wrong. 

http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/out-of-body-experiences-proven-by-scientific-study/

You should just admit it ... you don't know jack about this topic.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
    #22161482 - 08/29/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

"In philosophical language, the term empirical means simply what belongs to or is the product of experience or observation. –Sir W. Hamilton.


Isn't anecdotal evidence a form of empirical evidence? It is just a weaker form of empirical evidence than what can be attained in a laboratory setting. Not all anecdotal evidence should be dismissed simply because it is anecdotal, the more people you have claiming the same thing the stronger that empirical evidence becomes.

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No, but it shows that the discriminatory prowess of believers is highly suspect and that no NDE story had been empirically validated.




I would say that it is possible it is you who is the believer, you are a believer in philosophical materialism and therefore you believe you are your body and hence your consciousness must cease with that body. Any evidence suggesting anything contrary is automatically dismissed. You are so highly entangled with this belief that no amount of anecdotal evidence will impress you simply because in your mind it HAS to be wrong. So you find one flawed story among a data-base of literally thousands upon thousands of stories of which all fit the same patterns (which attest to their objectivity) and then conveniently dismiss all the evidence as false. You then back this decision by claiming that there is no empirical confirmation in a lab but you do not seem to acknowledge the fact that it would be extremely difficult to create an experiment which could, since obviously it requires that the patient DIES. Most fake skeptics do not really look into the evidence anyhow since they automatically assume there is none since according to their own beliefs and reality tunnel there simply cannot be any.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
    #22161525 - 08/29/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Are you aware the Tart could not be bothered to replicate this under the watchful eye of James Randi and win the million dollars for further research?

Let's see what prompted Tart on his journey:

Tart explains how he first got interested in the paranormal in the following story told at a talk he gave in Casper, Wyoming: 

There was a time, years ago, when I was highly skeptical of any paranormal claims of any kind. One of the things that convinced me that there must be something to this is a strange experience that I personally went through. It was wartime. I was at Berkeley, California, and everybody was working overtime....the young lady who was my assistant at the time worked with me until very late this one night. She finally went home; I went home. Then the very next day she came in, all excited....She reported that during this night she had suddenly sat bolt upright in her bed, convinced that something terrible had happened. “I had a terrible sense of foreboding,” she said, but she did not know what had happened. “I immediately swung out of bed and went over to the window and looked outside to see if I could see anything that might have happened like an accident. I was just turning away from the window and suddenly the window shook violently. I couldn’t understand that. I went back to bed, woke up the next morning and listened to the radio.” A munitions ship at Port Chicago had exploded. It literally took Port Chicago off the map. It leveled the entire town and over 300 people were killed....She said she had sensed the moment when all these people were snuffed out in this mighty explosion. How would she have suddenly become terrified, jumped out of bed, gone to the window, and then - from 35 miles away, the shock wave had reached Berkeley and shook the window?

There is no need to perceive this event as paranormal. A shock wave travels at different speeds through the ground and through the air. The difference over 35 miles would be about 8 seconds. Most likely the shaking earth woke up the young lady in a fright and 8 seconds later the window shook. She and Tart assumed that the explosion took place when the window shook, making her experience inexplicable by the known laws of physics. This explanation only makes sense, however, if one ignores the known laws of physics. 

This explosion took place in 1944. Tart was born in 1937. So at age 7 he had his own lab in Berkley complete with a female assistant and his parents let him stay up all night working overtime?

Who is the gullible one here, Orky? Puh-lease!

And, of course, no one to date has replicated Tart's remote viewing experiment. That may not make his experiment invalid, but it certainly has NOT been validated.

Anyone with even basic knowledge of science knows that experiments MUST be able to be replicated by anyone. Hasn't happened.

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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: soldatheero] * 1
    #22161547 - 08/29/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that no amount of anecdotal evidence will impress you




If you were a scientist or familiar with the scientific method, you would now that being impressed or unimpressed (an emotional reaction) has no place in determining the validity of a claim.

You would also know that anecdotes are fine as a starting point for research, but in and of themselves, prove nothing and are not acceptable as evidence in any scientific venue. Only the untrained layman would accept such stories as validation for any POV.

Your false assessment of my character (ad hominem fallacy) in no way makes a case for NDE's as something extraordinary. All your years here and you still appear to not understand the basics. Read The Fallacies sticky thread.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: soldatheero]
    #22161702 - 08/29/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would say that it is possible it is you who is the believer, you are a believer in philosophical materialism and therefore you believe you are your body and hence your consciousness must cease with that body. Any evidence suggesting anything contrary is automatically dismissed. You are so highly entangled with this belief that no amount of anecdotal evidence will impress you simply because in your mind it HAS to be wrong. So you find one flawed story among a data-base of literally thousands upon thousands of stories of which all fit the same patterns (which attest to their objectivity) and then conveniently dismiss all the evidence as false. You then back this decision by claiming that there is no empirical confirmation in a lab but you do not seem to acknowledge the fact that it would be extremely difficult to create an experiment which could, since obviously it requires that the patient DIES. Most fake skeptics do not really look into the evidence anyhow since they automatically assume there is none since according to their own beliefs and reality tunnel there simply cannot be any.




Nailed it in very articulate form, I might add.

The cult of "hey, I belong to the smart club because I'm a skeptic of anything that can't be proven via a scientific lab experiment" has a lot of power in our modern era. 

I urge anyone to offer a reasonable explanation of why no government on the planet has put up a  >1 billion dollar project to seriously study the afterlife question?  I mean we spend hundreds and hundreds of billions on so many projects yet this seems so fundamentally important that if we could actually answer this question, imaging the implications.  But we don't and probably never will.  It is the most important question of all and science, from a funding perspective, ignores it.  I find that interesting. 

The Tibetans didn't ignore it.  They studied it carefully.  They mastered the skills necessary to go as close as possible to the death experience to see what happens.  They mapped it out.  These were very serious people that spent 10+ hours a day in training to develop these extremely challenging skills.  They built a country-wide monastic system with serious financial commitment to study the life/afterlife connection and they took action on what they discovered so that their entire society could benefit and be prepared for the afterlife. 

I think it makes at least some sense to try and understand what they discovered.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22161719 - 08/29/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nailed it in very articulate form, I might add.




Of course you would agree with the ad hominem and not understand why it is verboten in philosophical debate. That would require basic self-education about the forum you have joined.

Good job! :thumbup:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22161783 - 08/29/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This explosion took place in 1944. Tart was born in 1937. So at age 7 he had his own lab in Berkley complete with a female assistant and his parents let him stay up all night working overtime?






I think that's pretty impressive.


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    #22161797 - 08/29/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nailed it in very articulate form, I might add.




Of course you would agree with the ad hominem and not understand why it is verboten in philosophical debate. That would require basic self-education about the forum you have joined.

Good job! :thumbup:




Please do not tell me you are trying to have a "philosophical debate" with strict ground rules on an internet forum on a site that is dedicated to hallucinogenic substances?  LMAO!!!

You have ignored repeatedly the same two questions so I find it hard to take you all that seriously with you "I'm in the smart club" arguments ... those questions are

1) Why does the brain create the near death experience at all?  For what possible reason or benefit does the brain construct worlds that are more elaborate and detailed than the waking world we all participate in together?
2) Why would anyone serious about the topic ignore the findings of a culture that has devoted serious study over centuries keeping in mind that culture does not have the constraints of the Afterlife Cult Abrahamic religions.  They have no evangelical element of converting the masses nor do they use their afterlife understanding to conquer and convert anyone for financial, political or military gain.  They are simply looking for truth and testing it with an extraordinarily rigorous system of training.  Just as a Hawking, Einstein or Feynman developed extraordinary intellectual skills to apply the language of math and physics to problems that 99.9999% cannot understand, there were "geniuses" in their culture that penetrated the mysteries with a type of knowledge that is quite foreign to the scientific community.  The mind is a gateway that can connect ... and some geniuses use it to connect to elaborate equations that can be used to describe unimaginable complexity ... others use their mind and genius to disconnect from waking reality and connect to other realities and then explore and map it out.

Anyway, your bias is clear.  Like I said ... I like Science and I like mysticism ... I find the shamanic view of reality equally fascinating as Hawking's.  I'm not a true believer in either ... Having had, from personal experience  thousands of lucid dreams and hundreds of OOBE's I can say, from direct experience, there is much more to it than conventional science currently understands.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Sun King]
    #22161807 - 08/29/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This explosion took place in 1944. Tart was born in 1937. So at age 7 he had his own lab in Berkley complete with a female assistant and his parents let him stay up all night working overtime?






I think that's pretty impressive.




Okra buys it. :shrug:

Also interesting is that this is Tart's first exposure to the "paranormal" that launched him on his career. So basically he already had a lab researching PSI phenomena BEFORE he was even interested in PSI phenomena. Some weird Mobius time loop thing going on here... :strokebeard:


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22161814 - 08/29/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Please do not tell me you are trying to have a "philosophical debate" with strict ground rules on an internet forum on a site that is dedicated to hallucinogenic substances?  LMAO!!!





The rules of PSP and the Fallacies sticky were not put there by OC, but do serve a real purpose. Not all trippers are immature children devoid of reason and propriety.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22161816 - 08/29/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its impolite to call someone a tart.


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    #22161819 - 08/29/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Please do not tell me you are trying to have a "philosophical debate" with strict ground rules on an internet forum on a site that is dedicated to hallucinogenic substances?  LMAO!!!





The rules of PSP and the Fallacies sticky were not put there by OC, but do serve a real purpose. Not all trippers are immature children devoid of reason and propriety.




you need to take more shrooms.


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Re: What Do You Think Happens When We Die? [Re: Sun King]
    #22161829 - 08/29/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Send me some. :yesnod:


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