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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Prisoner#1]
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listen to them Pris! they're fucking becoming delusional!

"it wasn't obamas fault it was NATO" those mean Germans Bombed those poor Innocent villagers" "NOT OBAMA"

Pris does Germany even have an Air Force that can drop BOMBS????


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: DrShroomkenstein]
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DrShroomkenstein said:
But the fact is that if Bush hadn't put us there to begin with we wouldn't be there now



you do know that Barack Obama has ordered and sent 40,000 more ground troops to Afghanistan?


40,000.....

did bush put a gun to Obamas head to make him do that?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
listen to them Pris! they're fucking becoming delusional!

"it wasn't obamas fault it was NATO" those mean Germans Bombed those poor Innocent villagers" "NOT OBAMA"

Pris does Germany even have an Air Force that can drop BOMBS????



Do you have any facts that run counter to those in the article that says the attacks were ordered by German NATO officials?

These continued attacks are horrendous, but those who are responsible for them should be blamed. Your little knee jerk reaction blaming Obama doesn't mesh with reality.

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: THC Titan]
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Quote:
THC Titan said:


From the article you posted:

The strike was called in by German troops









fuck NATO, the Germans, the Irish and anyone else you want to blame this on.

It was an American jet flown by any American officer who was ordered to drop an American bomb on those Innocent Afghanistan civilians!


do you know who's the commander of that Jet, that officer and that bomb?

I'll give you a hint his first name starts with an O......


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
lonestar2004 said:
listen to them Pris! they're fucking becoming delusional!

"it wasn't obamas fault it was NATO" those mean Germans Bombed those poor Innocent villagers" "NOT OBAMA"

Pris does Germany even have an Air Force that can drop BOMBS????



Do you have any facts that run counter to those in the article that says the attacks were ordered by German NATO officials?

These continued attacks are horrendous, but those who are responsible for them should be blamed. Your little knee jerk reaction blaming Obama doesn't mesh with reality.




you should get a job with MSNBC....i see a bright future for you!


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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Quote:
It was an American jet flown by any American officer who was ordered to drop an American bomb



Source?

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Redstorm said:
lonestar2004 said:
listen to them Pris! they're fucking becoming delusional!

"it wasn't obamas fault it was NATO" those mean Germans Bombed those poor Innocent villagers" "NOT OBAMA"

Pris does Germany even have an Air Force that can drop BOMBS????



Do you have any facts that run counter to those in the article that says the attacks were ordered by German NATO officials?

These continued attacks are horrendous, but those who are responsible for them should be blamed. Your little knee jerk reaction blaming Obama doesn't mesh with reality.




you should get a job with MSNBC....i see a bright future for you!



So, in other words, no?

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Quote:
It was an American jet flown by any American officer who was ordered to drop an American bomb



Source?



NM, found it myself.

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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Quote:
Its soooo weird that we�re not hearing any calls for Obama to be tried for war crimes over this, as they did when Bush was President.....



While I do understand that some dispute Obama's citizenship; I have never heard the theory that he's a German citizen, much less the Chancellor of Germany. Perhaps you meant Angela Merkel?


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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Quote:
THC Titan said:
The strike was called in by German troops




fuck NATO, the Germans, the Irish and anyone else you want to blame this on.

It was an American jet flown by any American officer who was ordered to drop an American bomb on those Innocent Afghanistan civilians!

do you know who's the commander of that Jet, that officer and that bomb?

I'll give you a hint his first name starts with an O......



Your deep concern for Afghan civilians doesn't seem very sincere when juxtaposed with unfounded claims about the incident and shifting the entire blame to President Obama. Do you know that Germany is the leading team in the northern provinces of Afghanistan (their purpose is meant to be primarily security and reconstruction rather than pure combat)? German commanders were worried about the tankers being used in suicide attacks against nearby bases, and then requested air support, providing the target coordinates.

As I already pointed out on the last page, the fighter jets were undoubtedly U.S., but the operation was conducted between U.S. and other Western forces in a joint effort you might have heard of - the ISAF, or NATO. In this thread you have consistently labeled this "Obama's airstrike", etc, without any evidence that the decision to go ahead with the strike made it that far up the chain of command. Furthermore, the articles I have read (including the one in the first post) have made numerous references to the incident as a NATO airstrike, an ISAF operation, and similar descriptions that recognize the allied, multi-national nature of the command structure.

We're on page 2, now, and neither lonestar nor prisoner have acknowledged that NATO or Germany even exist in Afghanistan, let alone had anything to do with this attack in the northern area around Kunduz. If you read their posts, Obama is literally the only person who was involved in the incident. Nobody else.



By the way, the President's first name starts with a "B". Do you even think about your posts before you hit the button?

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Quote:
It was an American jet flown by any American officer who was ordered to drop an American bomb



Source?



come on Red don't play dumb. you maybe be a closet commie but youre definitely not dumb.


who the fuck do you think is controlling the air space in and around Afghanistan?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: THC Titan]
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THC Titan said:
the fighter jets were undoubtedly U.S.



:toast:

Commander-in-chief

The President is commander-in-chief of the United States armed forces. As Commander-in-Chief, the U.S. President outranks any military officer.


I'm sure that includes German soldiers......:smirk:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: THC Titan]
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THC Titan said:
By the way, the President's first name starts with a "B". Do you even think about your posts before you hit the button?




:doh:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: lonestar2004]
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Please post a picture of the form that Obama personally signed himself ordering this bombing, otherwise it never happened.


The long form, please.

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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This is obviously all Bush's fault.  Why, if he would have suspended the election, the big 'O' wouldn't have been forced to kill the innocent in support of the military-industrial-christian-zionist complex.

The left wing is as robotic and willfully blind as the right wing, when it's "their team" controlling the reins of power.


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And as things fell apart,
Nobody paid much attention...

- David Byrne, '(Nothing But) Flowers' from the Talking Heads' album, 'Naked'

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Trepiodos]
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I wonder if any of those innocent civilians were dancing in the streets when the towers fell?


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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: ThePheonix]
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So that means they deserved to die?

You have a fucked up concept of justice.

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: Redstorm]
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If they celebrated the murder of thousands of innocent people then yes, they deserve to die, Before they can raise more fanatics willing to kill those who disagree with them.

:2cents:


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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: ThePheonix]
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ThePheonix said:
I wonder if any of those innocent civilians were dancing in the streets when the towers fell?



If they are innocent, it does not matter what they were doing.  However, seeing as CNN and MSNBC and FOX NEWS were probably not delivered to many households in the area at the time, your question is purely a rhetorical device designed to avoid logical arguments or moral questions regarding the killing of the innocent.


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And as things fell apart,
Nobody paid much attention...

- David Byrne, '(Nothing But) Flowers' from the Talking Heads' album, 'Naked'

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Re: Obama airstrike killed mostly civilians [Re: ThePheonix]
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ThePheonix said:
If they celebrated the murder of thousands of innocent people then yes, they deserve to die,



Pot => Kettle => Black.  There can be no arguing with your lack of morality (from my perspective).

Quote:
Before they can raise more fanatics willing to kill those who disagree with them.



This is specious reasoning at best, but it doesn't really rise to that level.


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And as things fell apart,
Nobody paid much attention...

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