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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740682 - 07/23/03 09:46 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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I think it's probably the strongest evidence yet that no-one seriously believes Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction




No one except for Bill Clinton, UNSCOM, the UN Security Council, British, French, Israeli & American intelligence, and the Kurds who survived their use.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740699 - 07/23/03 09:50 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Oh please! We are talking about two of the three most wanted men there is. Say what you want about the SAS or whoever. You don't know what you are talking about. They were in a heavily fortified section of the house designed for this purpose exactly. That is why it took 10 TOW missiles to knock them out. Try going over some facts before you just assume you know more than the people on the ground.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1740712 - 07/23/03 09:56 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

No one except for Bill Clinton, UNSCOM, the UN Security Council, British, French, Israeli & American intelligence, and the Kurds who survived their use.

No, we know he had them in 80's because the US was selling them to him then. The question is whether he had any 6 months ago.


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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: shakta]
    #1740713 - 07/23/03 09:56 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The missiles were used principally to take out the bullet-proof glass on the 2nd floor & the reinforced concrete external walls.

This was not some open-air villa, it was designed to withstand a heavy attack. That's why they were hiding in it.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: shakta]
    #1740725 - 07/23/03 10:00 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Oh please! We are talking about two of the three most wanted men there is.

Lets not get too carried away here. We're talking about a cripple in a wheelchair, a 14 year old, another pampered son of a dictator and a bodyguard.

We're not exactly taking on Chuck Norris here.


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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740739 - 07/23/03 10:05 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Go read UNSCOM's reports, Bill Clinton's or Tony Blair's statements, eyewitness accounts form Kurds, then get back to me.

Iraq obtained anthrax from a university agricultural department in the US, true. Please back up any claim that we sold him chemical weapons, because I call BS on that one.

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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740746 - 07/23/03 10:06 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You watch way too many James Bond movies.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1740769 - 07/23/03 10:14 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Go read UNSCOM's reports, Bill Clinton's or Tony Blair's statements, eyewitness accounts form Kurds, then get back to me.

Could you read my last post and get back to me? We KNOW he had them in the 1980's because US corporations were selling them to him.

What "eyewitness" statements have you got from the Kurds in the last 10 years?

Please back up any claim that we sold him chemical weapons, because I call BS on that one.

Are you serious?


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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740772 - 07/23/03 10:15 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

if they do find weapons of mass destruction, will that really make a difference to you anyway?

something tells me you'll still be unsatisfied.

you do know about the nuclear weapons program components brought foward by an iraqi scientist not long ago, no? why do you think he was instructed to hide those parts instead of destroy them?

saddam hussein wasn't through with unconventional weaponry. do you think that had he been left in power, saddam hussein would have never again attempted the manufacture of a chemical or nuclear weapon?

the guy's a weasel and a survivalist. he had plenty of time to get rid (or hide) everything he wasn't supposed to have, in hopes that the US would go away, and then maybe in a few years he could be back in business.

how do you think hussein (post 1991) should have been dealt with?

do you think that there should have been weapons inspections?

what should have been done when he did not cooperate with the inspections?

one final note: uday was a serial murderer\rapist who was considered even by hussein to be too violent and unpredictable to be iraq's next ruler. qusay was only a little better. if after a 6 hour gunfight (and 4 wounded american soldiers), these guys didn't come out of the house, it's pretty clear that they aren't going to come out alive, no? i'm sure they knew it was the end, and they wanted to die fighting. they got what was coming to them.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740778 - 07/23/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

US corporations were selling them to him.

WHICH US corporations were selling WHICH weapons?

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1740779 - 07/23/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You watch way too many James Bond movies.

I think it's you watching the bond movies. You make it sound like they were trying to take on Blofeld, Goldfinger and Oddjob instead of a cripple and a 14 year old.


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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740785 - 07/23/03 10:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I am serious. Back up your claim. Simply repeating it over and over does not suffice.

I will go dig up an eyewitness account by a Kurd who survived the sarin attacks.

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    #1740791 - 07/23/03 10:19 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

you do know about the nuclear weapons program components brought foward by an iraqi scientist not long ago, no? why do you think he was instructed to hide those parts instead of destroy them?

He buried them in 1991. The fact that he never bothered digging them up since actually proves the exact opposite of what you are trying to say, Iraq clearly had no nuclear weapons programme for the last 12 years otherwise he'dve dug them up sooner. Understand?


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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740790 - 07/23/03 10:19 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Alright Alex, you obviously are either retarded or are not reading any of the posts. In either case, you have stated the same crap over and over in this thread.

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1740792 - 07/23/03 10:19 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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The missiles were used principally to take out the bullet-proof glass on the 2nd floor & the reinforced concrete external walls.

This was not some open-air villa, it was designed to withstand a heavy attack. That's why they were hiding in it.




Why are we arguing about this. I'm glad they're dead and i don't give two shits how they were killed and how many people were involved, as long as they're dead.


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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1740796 - 07/23/03 10:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I am serious. Back up your claim.

What are you talking about? My claim that Saddam had no WMD? In case you havn't heard they've been looking all over Iraq for them for the last 4 months and found precisely fuck-all. I'm not "claiming" anything - simply pointing out facts.


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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1740799 - 07/23/03 10:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Ah, yes. Since your argument is weak and total BS, you must switch the subject to the WMDs yet again.

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Invisiblewingnutx

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Here you go: [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740802 - 07/23/03 10:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

GORAN SEDEQ was eight years old when he was gassed by Iraqi forces. ?It was like hell ? indescribable,? he said.

Mr Sedeq, a Kurd, is from Halabja, a town in northern Iraq close to the border with Iran. On March 16, 1988, during the Iran-Iraq war, President Saddam Hussein?s forces bombed the city with mustard and nerve gas, killing about 5,000 civilians in an attack designed to teach the rebellious Kurds the cost of siding with Iran. Thousands more have died since from injuries or related cancers and birth defects.

The rest is at:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3463-431339,00.html

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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: shakta]
    #1740804 - 07/23/03 10:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

you're replying to Alex, right?


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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1740810 - 07/23/03 10:24 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Your claim that US companies sold chemical weapons to Iraq.

'Pointing out a fact' is making a claim. Back it up.

BTW, your 2 statements seem to be somewhat in conflict.

Edited by wingnutx (07/23/03 10:27 AM)

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