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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: ]
    #2721165 - 05/24/04 01:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here's the latest news. More evidence that it was in fact a wedding party.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...40&ncid=716

RAMADI, Iraq - A videotape obtained Sunday by Associated Press Television News captures a wedding party that survivors say was later attacked by U.S. planes early Wednesday, killing up to 45 people. The dead included the cameraman, Yasser Shawkat Abdullah, hired to record the festivities, which ended Tuesday night before the planes struck.

The U.S. military says it is investigating the attack, which took place in the village of Mogr el-Deeb about five miles from the Syrian border, but that all evidence so far indicates the target was a safehouse for foreign fighters.

"There was no evidence of a wedding: no decorations, no musical instruments found, no large quantities of food or leftover servings one would expect from a wedding celebration," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said Saturday. "There may have been some kind of celebration. Bad people have celebrations, too."

But video that APTN shot a day after the attack shows fragments of musical instruments, pots and pans and brightly colored beddings used for celebrations, scattered around the bombed out tent.

The wedding videotape shows a dozen white pickup trucks speeding through the desert escorting the bridal car ? decorated with colorful ribbons. The bride wears a Western-style white bridal dress and veil. The camera captures her stepping out of the car but does not show a close-up.

An AP reporter and photographer, who interviewed more than a dozen survivors a day after the bombing, were able to identify many of them on the wedding party video ? which runs for several hours.

APTN also traveled to Mogr el-Deeb, 250 miles west of Ramadi, the day after the attack to film what the survivors said was the wedding site. A devastated building and remnants of the tent, pots and pans could be seen, along with bits of what appeared to be the remnants of ordnance, one of which bore the marking "ATU-35," similar to those on U.S. bombs.

A water tanker truck can be seen in both the video shot by APTN and the wedding tape obtained from a cousin of the groom . . .

(More at the link)


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2721426 - 05/24/04 04:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I was 12 and stayed at my older sister's wedding reception until 3:30 am. My little sister was 9. :\


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: adrug]
    #2721582 - 05/24/04 05:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5233418

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Iraq Wedding Film Challenges U.S. on Air Strike
Mon May 24, 2004 04:31 AM ET

By Tom Perry
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - New video showing Iraqis singing and dancing at a desert wedding begged more questions on Monday about a U.S. air strike last week that killed about 40 people.

The U.S. military has insisted most of the dead were foreign guerrilla fighters who had slipped over the nearby Syrian border. Local people say the Americans massacred wedding guests.

Associated Press Television News said it obtained the footage from a survivor of the strike early on May 19.

The U.S. military says troops found no signs of a wedding in the wreckage left at the remote hamlet of Mogr al-Deeb. But a spokesman, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, conceded on Saturday that six women were killed in the strike and a celebration may have been taking place: "Bad people have parties too," he said.

The film shows pick-up trucks racing across the desert -- many of the dead came from the regional capital Ramadi -- men dancing in a tent, children playing and a musician playing an electric organ. The same man later appeared dead in a shroud.

Ultimately the truth may count for less than the perception; many Iraqis, exasperated by 14 months of occupation and by a scandal over the abuse of prisoners by U.S. soldiers, find it easy to believe a tale of American brutality or incompetence.

The video is unwelcome news for Washington on a day when it is to present a proposal at the United Nations seeking approval for its continued military presence in Iraq following a handover of sovereignty to an interim government on June 30.

Nor will it help President Bush, who is to make a televised speech to the nation at midnight GMT that will lay out his strategy in Iraq. Bush's chances of re-election in November have suffered as Americans question the cost in lives and dollars of occupying Iraq.

It remains to be seen how close an ally the future independent Iraq will be to Washington.

U.N. CRITICISM

The top U.N. human rights official, Bertrand Ramcharan, said even if some of those at the house in Mogr al-Deeb were involved in criminal activity, that was no excuse for killing so many people. Continued ...




See pages 2 & 3 of article for more.


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: ]
    #2722205 - 05/24/04 12:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

but this time it looks like they were right

Still think the Brigadier was telling the truth mush?


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: Xlea321]
    #2725798 - 05/25/04 02:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd still like to hear what anyone else would do in the middle of a desert known to harbor people who want to kill you, at 2:45am, when all of a sudden a hail of gunfire opens up out of nowhere..


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2725947 - 05/25/04 02:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

erm, sit down and have a picnic?


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Re: U.S. Helicopter Reportedly Kills 40 Iraqis at Wedding Pa [Re: wrong]
    #2742429 - 05/28/04 08:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Good answer, good answer.. survey SAYS! 2. I'm so sorry. Top answer: Crap yourself.. crap yourself.


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