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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1947302 - 09/24/03 08:48 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Our society is almost equally intolerant. Its just got a shiny happy spin put on it.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1947336 - 09/24/03 09:15 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quite a difference between intolerance (general fundamentalism) and evil intolerance (terrorism). Your run-of-mill fundamentalist exists in any faith, and oddly enough the U.S. seems to have the biggest concentration of Christian fundamentalists in the world. Islam has its problems with reform because of the doctrine of Bida'h (Innovation) which is taken literally be general fundamentalists. Flying planes into buildings is an whole new brand of intolerance that has resulted from political condition. People turn to the Qur'an for their salvation, not political self-righteousness.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: GazzBut]
    #1947361 - 09/24/03 09:29 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Our society is almost equally intolerant. Its just got a shiny happy spin put on it.



Western society is not free from intolerance, but we have enough ideological tolerance most of the time to allow democracy to exist.

Compare the number of muslim mosques in Rome, Italy, with the number of christian churches, jewish synagogues, or buddhist temples in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, for example.

Or compare the magnitude of the reactions against "hijab" in western countries to the violent muslim riots against the Miss World Pageant in Nigeria.

There are many examples of how islamic intolerance exceeds the intolerance present in western democracies. Islam was a big improvement a thousand years ago, but it hasn't evolved, simply because it's designed to be the Final Word of God. It should be obvious to any thinking person that this type of ideology will cause problems sooner or later.

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Zahid]
    #1947385 - 09/24/03 09:40 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Quite a difference between intolerance (general fundamentalism) and evil intolerance (terrorism).



Right, but I wasn't referring to terrorism, because terrorism is a tactic (and an evil tactic), not an ideology.

I was referring to the contribution of Islam's intolerance against any ideas that might contradict the Quran, and how that intolerance makes it difficult to establish the open-minded culture that is needed for democracy.

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1947389 - 09/24/03 09:41 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

"Feel free to keep sucking each others dicks for as long as you like "

That's nothing to do with homophobia luv. It's paraphrasing a line from Harvey Keitel in Pulp Fiction meaning "lets not be too pleased with ourselves just yet".

Your remarks on the other hand were pure homophobic insults about "I bet you hang out in gay bars". You got away with your first insult thten chanced your arm with another homophobic insult. Everyone busted you on it and you appeared to have learned your lesson. Or at least you now know better than to display your homophobic tendencies on the board as it won't be tolerated.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1947832 - 09/24/03 12:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Snobrdr311 writes:

This will undoubtibly happen, i'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. The man definatly is a roadblock on the road to peace, i'm just afraid killing him will stir up a lot more terrorism.

He also provides us with a link for further information.

It seems to me this is an issue worthy of being discussed in this thread.

I don't believe the alleged character flaws of various regular contributors shed any light on the topic, but that's just me.

Here's the plan -- we all now go to the first page of the forum, read Rono's sticky post, take a deep breath, and either resume the discussion of Arafat's possible fate or move on.

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: GazzBut]
    #1948352 - 09/24/03 03:06 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
Alex's comment was not homophobic Luvvie.



Sure it's not.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Xlea321]
    #1948357 - 09/24/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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That's nothing to do with homophobia luv.



If you say so Alpo.\


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Or at least you now know better than to display your homophobic tendencies on the board as it won't be tolerated.



In order to display them you have to have them.


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The KGB and Arafat [Re: Phred]
    #1957732 - 09/27/03 05:04 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, yes... does anyone remember those wily Romanians and their whacky adventures? Here are a few Soviet machinations involving our hero Arafat which may be of interest to some.

At the very least, it brings this thread back on topic.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004075

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Re: The KGB and Arafat [Re: Phred]
    #1957741 - 09/27/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone here called Arafat a hero? I certainly haven't, and I didn't notice anyone else say it either. Condemning Sharon is not the same as glorifying Arafat. They're both assholes who are obstacles in the peace process.


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Re: The KGB and Arafat [Re: silversoul7]
    #1957796 - 09/27/03 05:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

So sorry, never meant to imply anyone had. It was more in the sense of "When last we saw our hero, he was clinging to a tree on the edge of a cliff..."

A turn of phrase, nothing more. Let's change that to "our boy Arafat", or perhaps even the more boring "the subject of our discussion, Arafat".

I was more interested in providing the link and getting the thread back on topic than anything else. I found the story at the link to be an interesting read.

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Xlea321]
    #1958534 - 09/27/03 10:54 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Ohhh.. those peace loving Israelis are at it again:

Israel Reportedly Considering Attacking Iran



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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1958548 - 09/27/03 11:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Someone should stop their nuclear program as they obviously arnt doing it so solve an energy crisis, but ill admit starting world war 3 might not be the best way to go about it.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1959132 - 09/28/03 05:58 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Ohhh.. those peace loving Israelis are at it again:



It takes no great imagination to see that Israel would be the most likely target of a middle east country with a nuke.

Hopefully it won't come down to them attacking but who could really blame them. (the second half is a rhetorical question as I'm well aware there are plenty who'll find fault with anything the Israelis do)


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: d33p]
    #1959213 - 09/28/03 07:45 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Someone should stop their nuclear program as they obviously arnt doing it so solve an energy crisis




Oh really...and you have proof of this? Hope it doesnt come from the same sources who told the world of Saddams WMDs.


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: GazzBut]
    #1959274 - 09/28/03 09:15 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe it's a trick. Those ayatollas could be refusing IAEA full disclosure just to make Americans look stupid when they invade, just like Saddam did with the UN weapon inspectors... :wink:

If Iran is enriching their uranium only to make reactor fuel, then why are they so reluctant to let IAEA determine that this is really the case, especially in the light of the discovery that weapons-grade uranium is present in Iranian nucelar facilities. To be used in a reactor, natural uranium needs to be enriched only to 3-4% of U235. An atomic bomb based on uranium fission needs about 90% enrichment. The presence of U235 in greater concentrations than 20% is considered a serious matter that needs to be explained.
       

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1959279 - 09/28/03 09:21 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, Bush must definately be telling us the truth this time.

Lets invade!  :rolleyes:


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1959311 - 09/28/03 09:54 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I for one find it laudable that the Iranian powers-that-be choose to invest enormous sums of money in building nuclear power plants to provide electricity to their people. The lazy way out would be to use their oil instead. They only have the second largest reserves of light crude in the world, after all.

Seems they actually take the Kyoto Accord seriously.

Mullahs for Green Power!

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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: Phred]
    #1959537 - 09/28/03 11:35 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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They only have the second largest reserves of light crude in the world, after all.



Now THERE'S a reason for invading! :devil:


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Re: Israel states that killing Arafat is "an option". [Re: GazzBut]
    #1960393 - 09/28/03 05:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
Oh really...and you have proof of this? Hope it doesnt come from the same sources who told the world of Saddams WMDs.




They have a nearly never ending supply of crude oil. The lights in Iran wont be going out anything soon. There is no reason for them to need nuclear power.

Go out and buy yourself some common sense.


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