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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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They are not "my" definitions, but the dictionary definitions, and, yes, they are the final word on the actual meaning of a particular word.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
They are not "my" definitions, but the dictionary definitions, and, yes, they are the final word on the actual meaning of a particular word.  :rolleyes:


In a particular language :rolleyes:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Which we are currently speaking.

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Veritas]
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But has same roots but different meaning. While the word how I would use it, would stem more from the origins, and yours stems from 'usage' in its own.
:shrug:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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As I said, the current definition of a word may or may not directly relate to the Latin root.  Latin is, after all, a "dead" language, whereas English is still living and changing as a result of usage. 

Icelander's post related to the "better than" current English definition of special, and therefore the Latin root is irrelevant.  :shrug:

Sorry, Blue, if we ever debate in German, you can feel free to correct my use of the language.  :wink:

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Veritas]
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Just consider the diversions from the 'roots' :wink:
:sunny:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
Then your definitions are wrong, because the original translations states 'be kind of a kind'. Without evaluation.

I wont look up the english translation for 'specialis'.


The sad truth is that most of us would rather defend our nonsense than admit that we could possibly be in error when it is pointed out. This is what slows the progress of humanity to a slimy snails pace. :monkeydance:


Will somebody please close this thread.:rofl2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Icelander]
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wrong relation :grin:
Everyone can make up any definition :monkeydance:
But in this case, it seems like an american syndrome of misinterpretation, as the base translation of 'special', really in no way is judgmental or evaluative.
So it doesn't relate to your proposed hypothetical transition of perception in regards to ones way of living.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Will somebody please close this thread.:monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Icelander]
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This thread has been closed.

Reason:
It seemed inevitable.

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: fireworks_god]
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But reality is not what it seems. :smirk:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Thanks F_WorksG.

So, I strongly assume, that we inherently are special, no matter how 'externatility' influences us, but
are strongly dependent on contextual 'externatility' on and in case of 'importance'.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Icelander]
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Moderator edit: This is the third time I have had to act within this thread due to users choosing to ignore the purpose and intention of this forum. We discuss ideas in this forum, and not the personal nature of the individuals posting them.

Edited by fireworks_god (09/08/07 08:31 AM)

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
If you came to the conclusion that you weren't important. Or no more important than an ant or any other thing. If you became convinced that you were just a bunch of programming from nature and nurture and there was nothing special about your life. Would this make a difference in how you lived and what you lived for.


how can we even begin to judge the overall importance of thing against another, without even putting that into any sort of scope. i'm pretty sure there are different aspects within my self that are more or less important towards my survival. whether or not my survival is important is another thing....but i have to pick something to even talk about the importance of it.

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Moderator Notification [Re: TameMe]
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The next poster who chooses to address the personal nature of any user in this thread, instead of focusing simply on the ideas presented for discussion will be banned from the forum for a week, no exceptions. :rolleyes:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Would this change the way you live now. [Re: Icelander]
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Now I have to do the whoopy who dog trick style and turn my statement around for clarifications of the inheren meaning to be understand.

One's perspective on the general relation of things and their evaluation doesn't change the fact that 'we' are special. This is an objective fact.
The 'importance'-factor may vary heavyly due to the context it is regarded in. It mostly is subjective, so has to be questioned all the time to make out the objective value behind of it, which (re-)presents itself mostly in its nearest relations.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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