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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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What's not very spiritual is giving another person the power to affect your emotions.

If this thread upsets you, that is a condition purely of your own creation.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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Were you respecting the feelings of all the loved ones of the 250,000 other people who died when you said you were not upset about their deaths?

If you are not required to be upset about the deaths of strangers, and you can casually state that their deaths did not affect you, why should anyone else be held to a different standard?

Spiritual narcissism is in the eye of the beholder. You appear very upset about this incident as it is personal to you. It is impersonal to everyone who did not have friends & family involved.

To tell people to "get fucked" when they express the same impersonal response as you did when you were asked about all the others who died the same day is hypocritical.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Diploid]
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im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

mushroom trip - quit wathcing TV

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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Quote:
mushroom trip - quit watching TV



I don't think your affirmation has anything to do with this thread.
Besides that fact that is lack any seen (if I'll quit or if I already did) this won't change the fact that others are still watching TV.
This thread was not about me. It was about the impact that kind of news have on people... the way they are presented
Can you make the difference?


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
Were you respecting the feelings of all the loved ones of the 250,000 other people who died when you said you were not upset about their deaths?

If you are not required to be upset about the deaths of strangers, and you can casually state that their deaths did not affect you, why should anyone else be held to a different standard?

Spiritual narcissism is in the eye of the beholder. You appear very upset about this incident as it is personal to you. It is impersonal to everyone who did not have friends & family involved.

To tell people to "get fucked" when they express the same impersonal response as you did when you were asked about all the others who died the same day is hypocritical.



then i guess you wont understand, and you dont need to.
nothing wrong with anyone's point of view here. earth is small. everyone is. but feelings are feelings and if youre allright with rubbing salt in peoples wounds, and that is your path to enlightenment by all means follow the light. Because if your spiritual beliefs justify it, then it must be allright for the rest of us.

My x called me last night to tell me her friend Hiedi was shot three times and is in ICU

so sorry if im a little emotional and not able to be 100% intellectual at the moment. im just afraid of who else might be dead.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Diploid said:
in the vastness of the universe, the destruction of Earth would be no big deal

It WOULDN'T be a big deal, and the 6 billion who vanish from existence wouldn't care one little bit, proving my point.



I think I'd care as I saw the giant meteor approaching.



I'd get out my telescope and have a deck party watching it approch. That would be awesome and a great and quick way to die.:thumbup::mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I am so glad that I stopped watching the news.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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moon_glue said:
im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

mushroom trip - quit wathcing TV



This is a personalism and bares no resemblance to truth IMO. You still do not understand what debate is about.:thumbdown:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Icelander]
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Can we have the deck party WITHOUT impending death? :birthday:


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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
moon_glue said:
im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

mushroom trip - quit wathcing TV



This is a personalism and bares no resemblance to truth IMO. You still do not understand what debate is about.:thumbdown:



she was complaining about the media, so i told her ot quit watching t.v.

it was just a suggestion, not an attack.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
    #6798933 -

but feelings are feelings and if youre allright with rubbing salt in peoples wounds, and that is your path to enlightenment by all means follow the light.

Utter nonsense IMO. No one is rubbing salt into anything. You are indulging again here in self righteousness. If you don't like this thread and it upsets and offends you then you don't have to be involved in it. Which by the way you seem eager enough to do. If you leave it be there is no problem and we can go on dealing with the subject matter which by the way really has nothing to do directly with the unfortunate circumstances at that school:thumbdown:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

This part.:crazy2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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moon_glue said:
Icelander said:
moon_glue said:
im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

mushroom trip - quit wathcing TV



This is a personalism and bares no resemblance to truth IMO. You still do not understand what debate is about.:thumbdown:



she was complaining about the media, so i told her ot quit watching t.v.

it was just a suggestion, not an attack.




I didn't take it as an attack, I took it as being something irrelevant to the subject of discussion.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
im saying tearing something down to build youself up seems to be your M.O.

This part.:crazy2:



that was directed twards diploid

i like mushrooms trip! ::internet crush:: its the red hair, man... and the space girl attitude

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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I know you were. What does it matter who you direct you personalisms at?

You don't seem to be getting this at all.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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rubbing salt in peoples wounds

Eh? Who did that?

You ARE aware this is a forum for discussing EXACTLY these types of topics, no?


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I know you were. What does it matter who you direct you personalisms at?

You don't seem to be getting this at all.



sorry I'm incredibly average. Don't expect anything brilliant out of me lol. I guess im a just a bad debator. But i still like to participate, maybe il get better at it.  :shitstorm:

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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: Diploid]
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On a slight tangent, Whoopi Goldberg had a radio guest, possibly the Rutger's womens basketball coach and she was saying how the team was 'forever scarred' by Imus' comment.

Forever scarred by a silly comment from someone they did not know or care about.

Now let's compare that to someone who witnessed or was wounded or was family or a friend of a victim in the Virginia Tech shooting.

Hmmmm....


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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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Quote:
sorry I'm incredibly average.



See my thread on 'Extreme Moderation'.

Quote:
Don't expect anything brilliant out of me lol.



Self deprecation is NOT humilty. Everyone here has something to share.

Quote:
I guess im a just a bad debator.



Perhaps just unfamiliar territory which is why Diplod 'stickied' the thread 'The Fallacies of Philosophical Debate' at the top of the page. Understanding this article and WHY some forms of debate are unacceptable will much better help you play the game.

Quote:
But i still like to participate, maybe il get better at it.



If you so desire, then you will get better. It is not that tricky, but may require some emotional taming.


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Re: 33 Dead: Big Deal?? [Re: moon_glue]
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moon_glue said:
Icelander said:
I know you were. What does it matter who you direct you personalisms at?

You don't seem to be getting this at all.



sorry I'm incredibly average. Don't expect anything brilliant out of me lol. I guess im a just a bad debator. But i still like to participate, maybe il get better at it.  :shitstorm:



If you're serious then I suggest just reading the rules of the forum first off and then take some time just to read posts and see how the debate works here. It you keep going the way you are very few are going to take you seriously. You can learn lots here and develope your skills. It's worth doing well.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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