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Re: Fate contradics free will [Re: moog]
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Interesting way of putting it!

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Re: Fate contradics free will [Re: moog]
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But...suppose there are infinite timelines

Even if there are other timelines, the only one under discussion is the one I experience. The others are not relevant.

If God's perception of my own unique timeline is dependent on me, then he is not omniscient and the contradiction remains.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Fate contradics free will [Re: Diploid]
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I think you're confused. It's just semantics at this point.

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Re: Fate contradics free will [Re: moog]
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No it's not. These hypothetical other timelines are completely beyond my realm of experience and have no more relevance to me and my choices in this discussion than do the choices of another person.

We're not discussing another person or another timeline.

In THIS timeline and MY life, if God's perception of my choice depends on me (this was your assertion above), then he is not omniscient.

If you want to argue that logic doesn't apply to God and that 1 = 2, well, then alright, I'll drop out of the discussion. But if you're going to use logic to debate the issue, then we have to reduce things to their components and that means we're discussing me and my choices not the hypothetical other me and his.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

Edited by Diploid (06/16/05 06:30 PM)

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Re: Fate contradics free will [Re: Diploid]
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No, it's ok, I conceded that you are right, regarding only one timeline.

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