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Re: Question for theists [Re: Lifenergy]
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If God is the source of everything and his presence is in everything...
God is hate,
God is disease,
God is Adolf Hitler,
God is Jeffery Dahmer,
God is horror,
God is pain,
God is Satan,
God is the sadistic little boy who pulls wings off of butterflies and skins the neighborhood cats alive...


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Question for theists [Re: Evolving]
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Yeah, and your point? :P

These things you mentioned are not 'evil', despite what a subjective view on them may be. They simply are, like anything else within this vortex of 'God'.


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Re: Question for theists [Re: Evolving]
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Actually, YOU are irreverent, and childish because you do not know how to read or interpret writings called 'scriptures.' It would be best to learn something first to avoid further embarrassment. If you don't even feel embarrassed now, I promise that you will eventually when you either grow up or wake up or both.

Don't like the reply? Don't address your hostility to my tag.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Question for theists [Re: Frog]
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Frog said:
silversoul7 said:
Frog said:
Oh, you're calling the 10 commandments "demands". I see, now.

Yes, God makes demands of us. He demands that we do the right thing. But because we weren't doing the right thing, He put the right thing in writing in the form of the 10 commandments.

You could compare this to the state in which you live making laws. Because people are inclined to kill one another, a state will enact a law that says "it is a crime to kill another human being."

It's like a law or something, when God makes a demand upon us.



It's interesting you make the comparison to a state, because that's kind of the point. The same question applies to the state: By what right does the state make demands of us?



It's not that the state has a right to make demands. It's that we have agreed to let the state make demands of us, after we agreed to be part of society. In the same context, God doesn't make demands of us "before" we decide to believe in Him.



I suppose you're talking about the Divine Right of Kings...errr, I mean Social Contract. Agreeing to be a part of society does not mean that we must then accept whatever legislation the government decides to pass. Government is not synonymous with society, no matter how much they would like us to think so. Yet they believe they have a right to imprison me for smoking a joint even if I don't believe in the legitimacy of drug laws or even the state itself. Similarly, God would send me to hell for violating the 10 Commandments regardless of whether or not I believe in him, would he not? Oh, and don't give me that shit about how I'm sending myself to Hell. If God is all-powerful, then that means he created Hell and the rules for how you go there vs. going to Heaven. Therefore he would send me to Hell just as the state would send me to jail for smoking a joint.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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