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Lord_of_Fungus The AlmightyLord Registered: 02/05/02 Posts: 167 |
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This is a dissertation of life, afterlife, and reincarnation given by Sylvia Browne?s spirit guide, Francine. Within these pages, you?ll find a ?Gnostic? view of the world and the reason for life. As always we encourage the reader to ?Take what you like and leave the rest behind?. No single work can fully capture this enormous topic. We simply offer this book as a resting point in your lifelong search.
Our goal, and hopefully yours too, is to stimulate your mind to seek God?however you wish. We don?t intend to replace your belief system. Rather, we only hope to expand your view to include areas not yet explored. Each person will find and understand God in their own way. This thread offers one path, among billions, to find God. A wonderful writer, T.S. Eliot, said it well: ?We shall not cease form exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Introduction by Francine, Sylvia?s spirit Guide There is information that I?ll give you here that you?ve never heard from any other medium. Years ago, I couldn?t have spoke to you as I will now because the world wasn?t ready. It isn?t that the information is new; it?s as old as you are. I don?t ask that you necessarily accept everything I say, but I?m convinced that in your heart of hearts, you?ll be very aware of the truths spoken here. I?m going to discuss life, the reason for being, and the evolvement of the soul. I want you to always keep a free and open mind; never feel that you?re bound by guilt or social norms. Your life won?t be ?off track? if you go against the norm. Every person has their own track. I take a decidedly opposite view of any group that forces everyone into a certain staid belief. I only want?more than anything in this world with the help of God?to augment your curiosity and self-image, and help you take control of your life. It isn?t important whether you?re skeptical or not. More important though, is the fact that you do believe. Even if there?s a part of you that?s skeptical, then even that curiosity in itself is a belief factor. For years, we?ve been silenced by churches, society, and cultures. But if you?re free-thinking, then you?re not easily controlled. You should only be controlled by the God within, and no other force or pressure should be heeded. The God within will lead you down your own path of individuality toward your quest for knowledge and perfection. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part I Life: A reason for being?Evolvement of the soul What is the purpose of living? You?re all messengers from God, sent to Earth to carry a message. But this message is encrypted, and you must decipher it within yourself. In other words, you carry a part of the emanation of the Divine. It?s as though you?re a scroll for the Word of God. It?s true that God exists without you, but all of you are a part of God. You will live forever, you have lived forever, and you will never be diminished or lost. Spirituality means, in essence, finding yourself, finding the God within and without, and fighting the battle against negativity. You see, even if just one of you will go out into the world and show the light to others, then a ?grayness? has turned bright. This is how you fight negativity, and it only takes a handful of you to accomplish a great deal. Each one of you is here to evolve your soul. You?ve chosen to experience the life in order to perfect more rapidly. You?re evolving as a unique part of God, perfecting one aspect of Him and Her. God experiences through His and Her creations. (In subsequent text, we?ll refer to the ?duality of God? using the pronouns Him or His for ease of reference) Start looking at life as something you must survive. It?s something that can be fun, but it?s also very tedious. As best you can, look at life as a school where bad food is served in the cafeteria and the teachers aren?t always of the highest caliber. You?ll make it through much better if you maintain a sense of humor. Why does God need me for learning? God, who is all-knowing, needs to experience His knowledge. From this need arose all creation, which is the manifestation of God?s emotion and intellect. Every facet of God can be found in His work. The perfect love between our Father and Mother became so great that it began to multiply onto itself, thus creating all of us. We?ve become the source that directly experiences emotions for God. We are, literally, a part of God. As such, anything we experience is also experienced directly by God. If we?re having some type of difficulty, then God experiences it, too. If we discover a joyous facet of life, then God is also there. It?s true that God needs use to experience. Yet it?s more correct to say that God is us, and thereby God does experience directly. God has experiences over and above what humans do. This is true because God has [/]all[/] knowledge, whereas we have very little by comparison. For example, let?s say that someone reads every book on how to build a boat, but they don?t have any practical experience. As a result, they won?t have the total understanding and feel of boating. Yet, just through the knowledge alone, they would experience the essence of boating, but not as much as by doing it firsthand. We?re the sensing, feeling side of God?s knowledge. Yet due to God?s boundless wisdom, all experiences we have are of a far greater magnitude for God. God experiences through us, but is able to absorb much more than we can understand. How should I live my life? Self-acceptance and self-knowledge indicate that you?re on track. Don?t constantly attack yourself for being human and imperfect. Stop using phrases such as, ?If I had done this?? or ?If only?? These are useless and waste energy. Take care of your body. Take pride in ownership. Don?t deal in the past; this can be very debilitating. Don?t become overly emotional over small things. If you do, then when the time comes for you to use that emotion for a larger purpose, you may feel that the ?well has run dry.? Intellect never runs dry as emotions. When emotions run dry, a vacuum is created and it sets up as an identity crisis. Then, you only feel like half of a person. But rejuvenation follows as you wait for the emotion to build back up again So, expend emotion wisely. Can I change my path? Everyone is very fearful of dissolving relationships. ?How do I relate?? This is a common, worn-out question. ?Relating? simply means to have a total love and intercourse with oneself?a constant communication. Those who have made the greatest strides are those who can communicate with themselves. If a relationship dissolves, it is simply time to move on. I don?t mean to be glib about this because grief is also a part of life. Do you know how often you create things? Throughout your life, you create ?silk purses out of sow?s ears.? It?s true that your eyes are blinded by what you first see in a person?beautiful, sparkling gem of the euphoric part of the Other Side. The union between a male and a female is probably one of the most blessed and beautiful alliances of the universe. But don?t devalue the union between friends, which is also very blessed and beautiful, even if it only lasts for a short time. You alone are responsible for your destiny. Your life was fully planned by you prior to coming in. All of life?s joys and sorrows were known beforehand. This is your chosen way to reach perfection. You can change your life only when the soul knows that it?s time to move to a different experience. Ultimately, you?ll experience everything you planned on, however painful, for the evolvement of your soul. You never change your main path, just the little off-shoots. The main highway always runs on a direct course. You can take ?sightseeing? trips off to the side, but you?ll always return to the main road. You view every single avenue and nuance of your path before you incarnate. You see all the shortcuts and detours, and what you would do with them. And you always ask yourself, ?Will this add to my purpose?? That is why, if you start veering too far off course, depression sets in. The soul tries to remind you, through depression, that you?re off track. Physical illness may even occur if you get too far off. For example, if you do one trying task, you may get a headache. If you do something else, you may get sick to your stomach. What someone else can handle, or struggle with, doesn?t necessarily mean it?s something you must also handle. Everyone has their own path to take. Don?t pattern yourself after someone else. You may endorse ?hero worship? or great respect for someone, but your own path is unique. How much ?chance? is involved once we incarnate? Each life is firmly set into place, regardless of the many directions it can take. As you travel on a highway, there are other roads that intersect and diverge. Your life is very much like this highway; you have one basic direction in which to travel. But sometimes there will be several roads to choose from, all of which will take you to your destination. If you turn in one direction, you may end up in the desert. So, regardless of the choices, you?re still supposed to travel in one direction?your own road. That doesn?t mean you can?t take a detour and get lost, but most entities find their way back to the ?main highway?. Everything you?ll experience is planned. That?s why there?s so much counseling before you incarnate. You not only scan your own life, but you also scan major influences around you. So does everyone else. It becomes a gigantic network that you could never, ever fully absorb with your finite mind. The complexity of many situations you?ll encounter is mentally staggering. Many thousands of people are involved, and endless details must be implemented. How firmly set is my future? By coming into life, you essentially give up your free will. Once you?ve planned the life, you?ll stay upon that path. Your free will operates before an incarnation. Afterwards, you?re acting out your own destiny. You?re allowed to travel many different roads, but you must achieve your final goal. In other words, there are many ways to throw a dart, but it must hit the target. You only have one destiny?to fulfill the mission you came in for. This is the overall first premise. Let?s say you have the life theme of Justice. You?ll pick lives in which this theme can best be experienced. For example, if you were an Irishman in one life, you might then choose to be an Englishman in the next. This would give you the balance of justice. Justice is your main thrust. You may pick certain directions along the way to fulfill the Justice theme?maybe saving someone from being falsely imprisoned or even just giving a speech. Your actions don?t always have to be blatant. You don?t have to beat a drum or carry banners. But the theme is always prevalent. This is the secret to your entire life?your theme. You?ll reach the final destiny when you come to your last ?exit point.? Then you?ll know, with all assuredness, that you?ve fulfilled your theme. Many circumstances that arise in your life seem to happen by chance. Perhaps you weren?t meant to break your foot, but there was a choice to do so. If you took this option, then you might have done it in order to get some rest. Or perhaps by going to the hospital, you could ensure harmony between two people who were fighting. In other words, you never get away from your theme. It will always rise up in front of you. To a person who isn?t ?justice-minded,? the scenario of two people fighting wouldn?t be something to act upon. But a person with a life theme of Justice would immediately become involved. They would say, ?This is my business because it?s bothering me.? Thereby, even with this choice of circumstance, they?re still fulfilling their goal. Future lives are only planned within you. They?re not written where I can read them. For this reason, commentary on our future lives is nonsensical. However, therapy for past lives has a great deal of value. Must I go through trauma and anxiety? You decided to come to Earth because you wanted to perfect faster than other entities. That?s a plus in your favor. This is the last planet be won for the sake of goodness. I don?t want to give you the impression that everything on this planet is evil, but it has the thickest negativity of all worlds. Throughout the galaxy, Earth is known as ?the marshes.? All of you who have decided to come here had to be evolved enough to make it. This planet is the toughest schoolhouse that you?ll ever experience. Now, you may say, ?I?ve fallen. I?ve stumbled.? We expect that. We?re never concerned with things that have to do with the flesh. The things we are concerned about, as most of you should also be, is the deliberate infliction of pain upon another individual. You may be surprised to learn that this happens very rarely. Most of the hurt inflicted by one individual on another is committed out of defense, or out of survival. You get stuck in the marshes. Even your dreams are more bizarre on this planet. Earth is more surrealistic than any of the other planets. Medicine is far below par. Intelligence on the entire planet is far below par. This isn?t negating any of you, however. It?s just that when you come to Earth, there?s a dulling of the mind. That?s? why so many times you may feel that knowledge is trying to get in, but something is blocking it. The atmospheric conditions are much thicker here. People may say, ?Oh, I couldn?t have planned to die violently?; ?Why did this happen??; or ?Why did that happen?? As I?ve said many times before, you?re only looking at a small portion of time. You can?t see the truth of things from such a narrow vantage point. You can choose to die violently for a greater good. You who are left behind after a murder or death of a loved one are the only ones who must perfect that grief. The entity who died has already fulfilled their job as a catalyst for your grief. If you don?t take every horrendous thing and turn it into a good, it?s lost to you. The most evolved souls will take on a great deal of trauma in order to perfect more quickly. Rather than feel sorry for the person who has had a miserable life, as you often do, you should feel sorry for the one who has had an absolutely marvelous life. You are all going to get into scrapes. There?s no way to avoid them when you?re in the body. But you don?t have to get into any more scrapes than you allow to happen. Traumas don?t come to you externally or from out of nowhere. They?re preordained by you to happen. You may say, ?I must be very masochistic.? No, you aren?t. You merely wanted to test your strength and see if you can endure. What causes anxiety and depression? Many of you suffer from stress and oppression. I want to be straightforward because if you know the reason why you feel the way you do, it?s much easier to handle. If you develop an unknown malady, you become very fearful. But if a doctor specifically diagnoses your intestinal pain as simple bacterium, you?re relieved to know it?s treatable and not terminal. Inevitably, most of you suffer with life, and it is terminal. No one ever gives you a diagnosis for your pain. You feel alone and isolated by your feelings and anxieties. You aren?t mentally ill, you?re just tired?tired of wending from one part of the universe to another; and tired of trying to reach people who are not evolved enough to hear your words, believe their own healing force, or comprehend the power that resides in you. These tasks become very wearisome. Don?t settle for anything you can?t understand. Everything you want to know may be difficult for the ?finite? mind, but there?s an answer. If no answer is given, there?s a control factor. You were told in religions and secret societies that you weren?t supposed to know or understand everything. This is foolishness. You can understand everything. Or essentially, you can certainly have the answers to everything. There?s nothing too mysterious that you can?t question or find an answer for. I?m not promising that you?ll fully comprehend what you discover, but there will always be an answer. You?re already in a body that?s heavy. Your body is a vehicle in space, in a world that?s made up of antimatter. You live in what we call a ?static belt,? an electrical belt. You?re constantly being bombarded by your atmosphere. As a result, your body weighs heavily on you. Even your head weighs heavily upon your shoulders. Although you?re used to this weigh, it?s very different from your eternal self. If you add all of this to the stress and difficulty of life, you?ll be a miserable entity. Competition, whether in social or technological areas, creates more stress. Those of you who came into this life and decided to enter the ?advanced? societies, wanted to perfect the fastest. You may say, ?Well, what if I had been born in the slums of India? That would have been worse.? No, you wouldn?t have had as much stress. You wouldn?t have had the competition. You wouldn?t have had the peer pressure. When life is merely dedicated to survival, it isn?t as stressful as competition. In India, you?re only competing from hand-to-mouth. It?s certainly a difficult life, but not nearly as damaging to the soul. I don?t want to preach to you. I?m only concerned about the depression you endure, the weight problems you struggle with, the stress you face. Many ask why they can?t find happiness or access their ?inner self.? This is the result of dietary habits, stress, and futility comprehending the meaning of life. We?re finding more and more people who are happy. However, some are standing up amid their happiness and screaming, ?Why can?t I be happy?? Happiness means that you elevate your soul, you have everything you need, you?re living, you?re functioning, and you?re working for God. This is happiness. Why do I react so strongly to life situations? Have you ever gone to the dentist for a teeth cleaning and then complained about it? Yet, you were there by choice and knew that the cleaning had to be done. To react to life situations is part of the plan. You?re here to experiences all of it. By venting your emotions, you can better handle such things. There?s nothing wrong with complaining. I?m more worried about the person who never vents. I don?t suggest that you should rage all the time, kicking and screaming. No one wants to be around a person who?s emotionally out-of-balance. You can?t take the constant barrage of infringements upon yourself and not react. And I don?t mean in a violent manner. Many times a person will close up or just not respond. For that person, this method works. Yet another person ill have to vent their anger. Every one is different. The tragedy is that, with religion, psychology, and culture, we try to make everyone homogenous?nice, quiet, organized, and controlled human beings. Schools try to do this, too. Everyone has to be clean, quiet, and perfect. But what about the kids who want to vent their own personalities? Why are they held back? The same thing happens with adults. Why do people constantly put themselves in a position where they?re prevented from being themselves? ?I?m not allowed to say that,? is the cry of many entities. If you?re in a position where you can?t speak and act freely, you?re not allowing yourself to grow. I don?t necessarily mean at your job. You can?t walk up to your boss and say, ?Look, I think you?re crazy.? But if you have nowhere to vent, you?ll get into a job and life situation where you?re stagnant. Soon, you?ll have a home situation in which you can?t grow. Then eventually you?ll discover that your car doesn?t work! You may think the car problem is just a coincidence, but it?s really a result of the pent-up frustrations that imprison you. Ultimately, you?ll be saying, ?My children aren?t right, my husband isn?t right, my job isn?t right, and now my car isn?t right.? People hide their true feelings because they fear they won?t be loved unconditionally. ?If I don?t confine and suppress myself, then I won?t be loved. So the more I suppress myself, the more everyone will think how marvelous I am.? This misconception continues until the day arrives when you no longer think you?re marvelous. Then everything begins to bother you. How should I react to trauma? It is the resistance to life that causes pain. All you really need is the total and complete knowledge that God never allows anybody to need or want. Each person chooses to be in a position of need for the perfection of their soul. And each person has the ability?the inner power?to change such situations. Once the need for anything is removed, there?s an ?abundance.? The flow of life is a cardinal rule in the universe. If you don?t block the way, the way will carry you. This applies to every human being. It?s the same thing with pain. Once it?s experienced and acknowledged, then it can be handled. The fear of pain, or the fear that accompanies pain, is what is so intense. Similarly, it?s the fear of life that leads to most of your problems. I?m not suggesting, however, that you flow with the tide of the masses! You can be an individual. Thomas Edison, and other great people, were able to flow with their own tide. If you know anything about Albert Einstein, you?re aware that he didn?t let anybody bother him. He, too, led his own life. Most of the problems that we see on your plane are created because you really push against life instead of going with it. There?s a disciplined frame of mind that allows you to flow with the life stream. But it?s so simplistic that most people negate it. In other words, if a bad relationship occurs, or a job is lost, or anything else unpleasant happens, you shouldn?t worry and struggle over it. Rather, you should respond by saying, ?I?ll ride this difficulty for as long as I can, and then I?ll simply jump off and deal with another one.? People literally harangue situations to death because they have what Sylvia calls a terminal ?one-time? quality about everything. ?If I lose this job, I won?t get another one. If I lose this person, there will never be another like them.? Of course there will be! Even with the tragic loss of a child, there?s still something that will take the child?s place. Most of the time, people are trying so hard to keep from being uncomfortable, without grief and without want, that they create the very situation that they?re trying to avoid. They create an emotional vortex fro themselves where they become needy, filled with frustration and worry. Does it really matter if you move from one place to another? Similarly, our loved ones just moved back Home early. You?ll eventually meet them again on the Other Side. It?s very hard to explain to human beings that life has a great plan. Even though we talk exhaustively about how the Other Side and how everything eventually evens itself out, the frustrations still mount. Allowing yourself to flow is part of centering the self. For instance, some parents will say as their children get older, ?I?m more patient now. I can handle my kids.? But this isn?t the case. Somewhere along the line they learned to flow, and that?s really what patience is all about. Discontent will only occur when you aren?t flowing well enough with life. Do you realize that 99 percent of your fears never culminate? But if even one tiny part of something you fear comes true, you?ll say ?I knew it!? Not only that, but this affirmation intensifies all of the fears you?ve ever had. You may even think you?re psychic enough to know that everything you fear will come true. No human being suffers that much trauma. You may look around you and say, ?But this person was murdered.? Yes, they were, but chances are they crossed over very fast and are now Home. I?m not condoning murder; I?m just saying that such an atrocity is also part of the larger plan. Let?s look at life as a school again. Let?s say a student in your classroom flunks out and is expelled. For a short time, everyone will react by saying: ?Isn?t that terrible? What happened to cause that?? Ten years from now, will this occurrence be significant? During your school days, do you remember any ?bad? students? Where are those students now? Are they directly intertwined in your life? Are they affecting you now? Yet, for a brief time, everyone said, ?I?m so glad I?m not one of those bad students.? Everything is transient. Everything is moving. Is it permissible to get angry at people and situations? Don?t be so scrupulous about your thoughts. Thoughts are things, but realize that you?re human. Know that you must vent your feelings. I told Sylvia sometime ago that anger is an inverted depression, and psychiatrists have known this truth for years. Anger is inverted because you can?t just be who you are since you?re afraid of disapproval. Yet, whom do you admire in life? You admire the eccentrics, those who do what they please. I don?t mean the people who hurt everyone, but those who can live their life the way they want. If that?s what it takes, then be eccentric. Your words shouldn?t be monitored. I don?t mean that you may maliciously hurt someone; but if you ask God to help you speak only the truth, you don?t have to worry about censoring your words. If someone misinterprets what you say and gets angry with you, that?s really their problem concerning their own perfection. You always have a choice when listening to someone. Anger is self-inflicted by you. You may say, ?This person made me angry.? But that?s not true. You made you angry. Or, ?That person hurt me.? No, you hurt you. Many times we carry people on our backs because we think we?re doing a good deed. If you carry a baby who raises its arms to you all of the time because it doesn?t want to walk, then that child?s legs will atrophy and they?ll never walk. Haven?t you then damaged that child with misguided kindness? Jesus said, ?Love your neighbor as yourself.? Now, let me be more specific and try to release some of your guilt. You can?t possibly like everyone, but because ?love your neighbor? has been driven into you, you?re convinced that it?s wrong to dislike people. On the contrary, it?s wrong not to dislike people. Let me tell you why. If you?re going to like and care for every person (and I?m not speaking of love?we?ll get into that later), there?s something wrong with your personality. You?re deficient as a whole person. A whole person has definite likes and dislikes, paths that they follow, paths that they don?t follow. You must try to love everyone?s soul and wish them the best, but you certainly don?t have to like them or their actions. To associate with a person you intensely dislike is wrong. It diminishes that person and yourself. Many marriages, friendships, and family relationships often encompass people you can?t tolerate. This causes you guilt, heartache, and stunts your spiritual growth; you?re laboring so hard to be perfect that it colors everything. Anger is probably one of the most positive motivators you possess, yet you?re always told not to be angry. You must be angry when it comes to injustices. You must vent your righteous anger. You are sound of mind and know that you aren?t going to be aggressive. There?s a difference between aggression and anger. You develop so many ills because you invert anger, and most of it is anger toward yourself. When you invert your anger, you create a great overabundance of adrenalin, you develop a case of acid indigestion, and most likely you?ll contract dysentery. You see, if you don?t release your anger one way, you?re going to release it in another. People say, ?I was so angry, I cried.? Do you know why this happened? You couldn?t let the anger out, so your tear ducts let loose. People also say, ?I got upset, I vomited.? This is another way to physically release your anger. Why can?t you turn to an individual and say, ?That hurts my feelings. I don?t like what you said?? You?re afraid of being rejected. Isn?t it better to feel rejected than to be dishonest about your feelings? Are you aware of the secondary effects of suppressing anger? You begin to isolate and ignore people, which leaves them wondering what?s going on with you. You have every right to remove yourself from a painful situation. Otherwise, it will stunt your spiritual growth. If you?ve spent a year or two with an individual and there?s absolutely no improvement in your relationship, you?re wasting your time if you go on any further. Only you can judge how deep a hurt goes, how deeply you?re affected by a situation, and how deeply you?re injured by it. This is the only time you can make a judgment. How much does something bother you? Does it stunt your growth? Are you nonfunctional with it? Does it hurt you too much? If a relationship has overriding positive qualities; if an individual moves in and out of negativity and there are no bad feelings, or if you can neutralize your feelings, then the relationship is worth pursuing. If you can?t extricate yourself from an individual, then you should neutralize their impact on you. By neutralizing them, you insulate yourself so they can no longer hurt you. This process uses the objective part of yourself, so you don?t subjectively translate a bad relationship as a personal rejection. Don?t get caught up in the tragic belief that you can change someone. Although some marriages are built on this belief, as are family relationships, you?re ultimately building your house on a foundation of sand. Is there a proper way to be? One thing you must guard against is holding another person responsible for your needs. It not only drains you, but it drains the other person. It?s like the old adage by Edwin Arlington Robinson: ?Love must have wings to fly away from love, and to fly back again.? The most enduring relationships in the world have survived in freedom. The only reason you?ll ever look at another person and say, ?You make up my total life,? is because there?s a deficiency within you. This is a perfection scheme you need to overcome. If you find that you?re a person who doesn?t like other people, you?re in great turmoil. Not only is your world filled with people, but where you come from is filled with people. The greatest thing that you will ever do in this life is to try to get along with other people . This doesn?t mean constantly giving our more than you wish to. It simply means being amiable. It?s perfectly within everyone?s right to show anger and fear. The problem with many psychologists is that they try to make you verbalize such things. There are some emotions that can?t just be verbalized. Some emotions must be enacted, and there are others that, unfortunately, can?t be accepted. In other words, if you?re tremendously frustrated, you shouldn?t run screaming down a street. It?s pity in a way, because this action doesn?t hurt anyone. Or if you were to lock yourself in a room and break things, this wouldn?t hurt anyone either. You become so confined within your own body, in a vehicle that doesn?t work exactly as it?s supposed to, and you have a subconscious memory of a body free of heaviness and ills. These, in themselves, cause frustration. Do you know that Jesus didn?t like everyone? He didn?t like the Pharisees; he couldn?t stand the Sanhedrin; he couldn?t tolerate the rulers of Rome; and yet he cared for all people. Do you understand this notion? It?s impossible for you to walk around and truly love everybody. When you claim to do this, you have prostituted the word love. You?ve used the word love so much that when it comes to truly loving and caring, you can?t measure it anymore. Most of you, I can truly say, ?like? and ?care? for others. Very few incarnates know what true love is. This isn?t because you?re deficient; it?s because on your plane of existence, it?s nearly impossible to comprehend. Infatuation, experienced in those initial moments or months of a relationship, is probably the closest way to describe ?love? on my side. But where I am, you must multiply this by 1,000. Once you get a slight hint of this feeling with a new partner or friend, you?re constantly searching for it again. But as you get older and more weary, the less often it comes. Nevertheless, something must replace it; some deep inner peace and the knowledge that you?re finishing out your time and on your way Home. You may select partners and companions along the way; however, each of you falls into a state of isolation because of your physical body and the fact that you can?t merge. We as spirit guides are probably closer to you than any human being could ever be. Remember when you were first romantically and mindlessly in love with someone? In this state of heightened euphoria, you wouldn?t care if your cart didn?t start or you lost your job. Do you see what I mean? Even if you did care, it would be minimal. But let the infatuation wear off, and then your car won?t start and you lose your job, and you?ll be in the throes of despair! The only love affairs that last are those that you have with your God and yourself; and even the deep, abiding love that you have for the people around you. I?m talking about comforting love. Infatuation in your world is wonderful, but it must be given lower precedence than comfort and companionship. People often make a commitment and then relinquish it because they?re looking for that gigantic thrill. It doesn?t happen often, nor does it last. People who search for that infatuation ultimately age before their time because their body can?t sustain it; it?s too intense. As you know, when you?re infatuated, your heart races, you lose your appetite, your face flushes, you can?t sleep, and even your blood pressure elevates. You couldn?t sustain this state?you?d eventually die. When we find one of you in a sate of infatuation, we can actually see your aura sparkle and flare all over. Did you know that after infatuation, there?s a gray period? If you work through it, then you?ll usually turn a bright green or bright blue, which means rejuvenation or tranquility has taken place. You are electrical beings and you?re in control of this electricity. You should visualize your aura so it becomes more green or blue, or maybe even shades of green and blue. Your aura should also be confined close to the body, without flaring out. The best aura is one that is close to the body. You?ll show two or three layers in your aura. When the aura is closer to the body, it will be white or light, almost like a silhouette. If your aura extends three to six inches out from your body, then you?re in a very excited mood. When your electrical emanation reaches out about three or four feet, this is what we see during infatuation. If you?re constantly living in the past with what should have been or what was not, then you?ll stunt your spiritual growth. If you?re constantly wondering all the time about what people think of you, you?ll stunt your spiritual growth. If you constantly stay with someone who you dislike intensely because society rules that you must, you?ll stunt your spiritual growth. Does it make you an uncaring, unfeeling human being if you do these things? Maybe society thinks so, but you must realize that in actuality, you?re alone and you?re following your individual path to get back to where you came from. If I can only encourage you not to be obsessive about things such as tomorrow, next year, or money problems, then your life will be much easier. You may retort. ?But I have to live.? Yes, you do. But things are only going to be one way or the other. Believe me when I tell you that everyone survives the money worries, the business worries, and the love worries. So much needless energy is spent on worrying about things already predestined by you. Money is a great deal like love. It?s meant to be taken in and given out. If money is received and held onto, it doesn?t reproduce. People become too concerned about materialistic holdings. I?ve talked to people constantly in private sessions and they ask me, ?Am I too materialistic?? Almost every time, I?ve answered no. Very rarely have I seen a person, regardless of their holdings, houses, or cars, who I feel is truly caught up in material possessions. People are caught up in material matter by caring too much, in almost a self-conscious way, about what people think of them. This is being caught in matter. The solution is so simple. You care for the majority of the people and hope they care for you. If they don?t, then there are others who will. This is the best mode of behavior. This is what makes you more spiritual. You see, by quieting down the mind and knowing the God eventually?not only within but without?will take care of all things, you leave the door of communication open for us to enter. We can?t get through when you?re constantly filled with anxiety about money or a love affair. We can?t seem to convince you to still your mind long enough for us to make contact. You can be simplistic yet very intellectual. This means you care for the smallest as well as the largest. It?s a whole process of retraining your mind. Be simplistic. Walk into your dwelling, whether it?s an apartment or a house, close the door, and be grateful you have four walls and that they reflect you. Be thankful for a job that brings you money in so you can eat and live, for friends around you, and for a beautiful country in which you can enjoy oceans or mountains. I don?t want to sound like those so-called gurus who want you to be so simplistic that you empty your mind. I?ve even been called very ?Westernized.? I find this label very strange because my philosophy is very Eastern. I?m considered Western, perhaps, because I believe in activation as well as passivity?activation, defined as doing something with yourself; and passivity, defined as letting life pull you. I?ve also said this to Sylvia?don?t struggle upstream, let the stream carry you. Fighting against life stunts spiritual growth because the path becomes harder. On the path you?ve chosen, try to avoid placing one rock after another in your way. Most of these stumbling blocks are created by you. Oh, yes, there are many types of stumbling blocks?periods of grief, periods of joy, and periods of aloneness. But your frame of mind determines how well you?ll get through them. If every misstep you make is blatant, you can easily identify and stop them immediately. When you were young, all you had to do was put your finger in your nose and somebody would reprimand you, ?That looks awful and disgusting.? Then you stopped doing it. If everything you did was visible to the world and somebody would say, ?That?s disgusting,? you?d stop doing it. You?d learn right away. In other words, you?d understand from the beginning that your actions were socially unacceptable. So, start acting in public the same way you would in private. You should also recondition your mind, like you do with your body when you start swimming, running, or playing sports. You can tell when your body begins to get into shape. Similarly, every time you recognize one of your personal problems, say, ?I don?t like this about myself; therefore, I?ll stop it.? And I mean immediately correct it. Reprogram yourself to acknowledge that you?re not the negative part of your behavior. Most human beings only identify themselves with the negative. If you ask people to describe themselves, they?ll immediately point out the negative because they?re so fearful about stating their best attributes first. The most simplistic methods are the ones that are always overlooked. What causes such diverse behavior in people? Throughout all of your lifetimes, you?ve been inundated with the wrong information. When you go back into life after life, you?re brainwashed into another type of ?normal.? You?re deluged by all types of moral behavior, commandments, church rules, and law. So it becomes terribly difficult to figure out what?s right. One?s upbringing in an incarnate state makes a person obsessive. If there?s anyone reading this who thinks they?re not obsessive, I can prove otherwise. Knowing obsession exists, yet still giving yourself a sense of freedom, is marvelous. Everyone can reach this state. When an extremely rigid society exists, eventually it reverts to extreme amoral conditions. This can be quite beneficial because if you?ve been conservative in one life, you can look forward to another one that will be liberal. What causes psychological disorders? This is the only planet where cancer exists. There?s no other planet with this disease. The more people are engulfed in negativity, the more self-hate they inflict upon themselves and each other, and the more cancer there is. If you stop hating yourself, you won?t get cancer. I don?t mean that you dislike some things about yourself. I mean you really hate yourself, or really hate your life. What I?m saying to you, in essence, is that you have a very high peak to climb. But more important, I believe that you?ll all reach the top. You might not think you?re going to make it, but you will. Multiple personalities are an entirely different matter. Most of the cases?99.9 percent?occur because a person can?t figure out which life they?re in. In other words, subconscious memories of your past lives seep into the conscious thoughts of your present life. This is known as a ?bleed through? of your many lives and can overwhelm your mind and totally disrupt your life. Is it better to be an active or passive person? We?ve never seen anyone attain an immense thrust of spirituality by being passive. I?m not against any religion or sect except the ones that manipulate people?s minds or create fear. The ones we find utterly useless are those that require years of being locked away and passively chanting. Spirituality is an ongoing, thrusting force. You?d never hear about Jesus sitting cross-legged and chanting for hours at a time. Instead, he was out among the masses?talking, speaking, activating, healing, and preaching. This doesn?t mean that you?ll turn into an evangelist. The greatest teacher and preacher you?ll ever have will be for yourself. Do extroverts evolve more quickly than introverts? Yes, they do, but not false extroverts. Extroverts are people who genuinely commit to God to be as outgoing as they can be, and believe beyond a doubt that God will take care of them?inside and out. In this commitment, God will provide infused knowledge and a direction for life. Then, they can let life have its way with them. Is the strain of living worth the effort? In humanity, we find great pathos and humor. The only message I want to get through to you is this: Stop trying to invent and reinvent yourself. This consciousness movement is a marvelous thing. Yet, there?s an extremely hard wall you?re going to hit. You?ll be so busy making your emotions ?flat,? and fashioning yourself into such perfect entity, that no one will want to live with you. If you do nothing else but survive your life and deal with the density of your own body?wading and surviving through it?then you?ve accomplished something for God and your soul. Can we ever hope to improve the world? The planet Earth, due to its stupidity and negative cycles, must return ad infinitum. Once other planets experience the lesson of inquisitions and horrifying events, these atrocities no longer take place. Your planet, however, has a tendency to repeat such flagrancy. Ironically, this is very beneficial because without these negative pressures, you wouldn?t have accelerated as quickly as you did. So when you look at each other and know you?re all God?s messengers, then you?re one step closer to improving the world. There are a limited number of years left for Earth. In this time, the spiritual movement must rise so that the planet can be ?saved.? There?s no such thing as ?lost.? Let?s just used the word saved in this context as ?When everybody perfects their soul.? If you can?t reach this level, your efforts are wasted. Isn?t this why so many of you decided to come in? Evidently, this is why the population is over-flowing. It?s because everyone wants to find truth. The real truth, of course, is in the very core of their being. Unfortunately, most people discover only part-truths. These individuals live in fear of life, which is why cults form with often disastrous results. Life?s negative aspects exist for the sake of perfecting your soul. Racial barriers, for instance, are set up to test the soul. Challenges such as being short, tall, ugly, beautiful?.allow each person an environment to perfect. If we?re unable to cope with life, can we take an early exit? How do we know when we?re ?on track?? How do we know when we?re ?on track?? You may never try to take your life prematurely. It only forces you to return and face the same circumstances again. And if that isn?t a deterrent to suicide, I don?t know what is. Once you?re in life, you?re supposed to stay in it. If you commit suicide?and this is a known truth?you?ll have to come back to the same geographical location, the same type of parents, the same type of marriage, the same financial disaster, or whatever events influenced your early exit. You?ll go through exactly the same episodes again. A common misconception about suicide is thinking, Next time, I?ll be more prepared and I?ll handle things better. But that?s not the case because we push you back immediately. There?s no rest and no time for revival. Remember this analogy: If a child runs away from school, they?re admonished and sent back immediately. It?s the same for an entity: ?They?re continually sent back until they learn to stay in. Most advanced souls wouldn?t commit suicide; this doesn?t mean that the soul that takes its life bad, however. The more advanced soul may contemplate it but would never do it. It may even enter their mind, ?My beloved has gone and I want to go with them,? but there?s always something?the wisdom of the soul?that holds them back. On the other hand, you can be on track and take an ?exit point.? Remember, an exit point is never considered a type of suicide. An exit has already been set up, whereas a suicide derails you from your path. How do we know when we?re ?on track?? You?re on track when you simply feel good about yourself. Regardless of any adversity in your path, you begin to realize that you can spiritually handle it. At times you may feel derailed, but there?s an inner faith and glow that brings you back to this peaceful state. It?s an intuitive understanding that you?re okay; it?s a love of yourself. While on track, you?ll experience heightened awareness, sensitivity, and the ability to hear guides or feel their presence. You may also receive imprints of their thoughts. People are a reliable barometer for how well you?re evolving. If you feel that no one likes you or you don?t have any friends, most of the time this is your fault. Sometimes you put yourself in such a negative place that you can?t see that you actually do have friends. You could very well be so hateful and cruel that no one wants to be around you. Here, I?d recommend that an adjustment be made. Often, we hear people crying out, ?No one loves me!? If you?re unloved, there?s a distinct possibility that you?re unlovable. People work hard on being loved. But they don?t strive hard enough in the art of loving. If your only thrust in life is just to be loved, then you may find that your soul ?goes begging.? But if your aim is to love, then you?ll never find your soul in want. If you cry, ?Poor, insignificant me,? You won?t find much sympathy in this world. When you pass over to my side, you?ll have to overcome all the hostility and belligerence. Nothing destroys the soul more than carrying vindictive feelings. Not only that, it?s also tiresome for others to be around you. If life is forever, why does humankind have such a fear of death? You?ll find that those who fear death are more rooted in the materialistic world. Fear of death blocks the knowledge that life continues. Have you noticed, these days, how everything must be accomplished now? You must be successful, you must be wealthy, you must be beautiful?people recognize subconsciously that this world has only a short time left and they must complete their perfection now. We can even say that a fear of life creates a fear of death. Life, as you know it, is a very terminal condition. The only real ?death? is to leave the Other Side for an incarnation?where your reality is stripped away and replaced by an inferior existence. Here, another fear arises: ?Will I ever get back to my real self?? ?I want the true me, where is the true me?? In this life, you can?t completely peel away the various faces you wear. Even your body is a false front and not the true self. Have you ever lived in a house that you were afraid to give up because you thought you wouldn?t find another one? Or have you gone on a long trip and then come back and said, ?I forgot how good home feels?? These are the things you worry about. ?I?m in a false dwelling, its arid; I?m separated from others by a body; I can?t pull another person into myself; I?m isolated from everyone here.? If you can understand what?s operating, then you?ll avoid the fear of annihilation. When you pass over, all such fears are wiped away. Here, true memory bursts upon you at the very moment of your passing, and your soul breathes a sigh of relief: ?That?s over, and I?m going home.? What methods will help us survive through severe stress? Deep breathing and meditation are the best ways to survive stress. Mental fatigue is possibly the worst type of stress. The only way to relieve it is to project your mind to a mountain or seashore. A few minutes of this type of meditation can relieve stress and burdens. Amazingly enough, you can?t relieve mental fatigue without sleep. The mind needs a diversion for relief. The more you discover advanced spiritually, the more you realize how life is only a passing shadow. You certainly need to concentrate on your love life, your business, and your health, because these are all part of life. They?re so transient, it?s like a short stay at school. You may not like the dormitory or the meals, but you?ll graduate. I guarantee it. No one has ever regressed. Don?t stay in situations you can?t tolerate because they hinder your spiritual growth. People justify this by saying if they leave a relationship, they may hurt someone else. My question is: Are you hurting them by leaving or are you causing them more pain by staying? I?m not advocating the breakup of marriages or partnerships, but too often, people linger endlessly in a relationship thinking that: If I leave, what will they do without me? Well, they may just live! Here?s something you can do for yourself and others. On my side, we call it ?sounding.? Sounding is, at best, a very nebulous word. It relates to the internal workings of one soul touching another soul. Sounding is what we call the mental intuitiveness of one soul reaching out to another. It?s the act of sending out premeditated waves of love and warmth. This may seem simple, but it?s as if you feel or sense the body of another person. Sounding is probably the most psychic way to tell where you can find another person?s spiritual core. If you send these loving waves and you find they?re blocked?continue to send them. These waves can relate to your job, your marriage, and even to your own internal negativity. Another way to prevent blocking is to imagine that there?s a glowing entity, your own spirit guide standing in front of you?rejuvenating you especially in the solar plexus area. They shall send loving waves to you. People can spend endless hours preparing their clothes or hair or sales sheets for the following workday, but will allot little time for spirituality. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part II AFTERLIFE: THE OTHER SIDE For centuries, humankind has wondered whether or not there?s an afterlife. In this uncertainty, people have seen fit to use various words and phrases?religious or otherwise?to describe this state. Depending upon one?s belief system, descriptions can range from the well-known terms, Heaven and Nirvana, to more ancient monikers, such as Mt. Olympus. Within the Society of Novus Spiritus, we call the afterlife and its environs the ?Other Side.? In the following pages, you?ll read in detail about the Other Side?its function, lifestyle, and population?in other words, its total environment and purpose. Those of you who have been dogmatically programmed into traditional beliefs and descriptions of the afterlife will be quite surprised by the information presented here. The free-thinkers will be amazed by certain aspects and content, and those of you who don?t have any belief in the afterlife might just find one here. You?ll most certainly gain something from this information. So, keep an open mind and take only what feels right for you. Some of you will avidly absorb everything and find peace and love therein; and then again, some of you will digest bits and pieces that fit into your belief structure. I believe, however, that even the most skeptical person will see and recognize the truth and logic behind the Other Side. What is the Other Side? The Other Side is simply ?another dimension.? You can all relate to the three-dimensional environment you live in, called Earth. In fact, except for those who have experienced some sort of ?paranormal phenomena,? you only have a conscious memory of Earth. You accept it as reality because you can see, touch, and hear all of the events that take place in your world. Consequently, you feel somewhat secure in this view of reality and rarely bother to question God, the afterlife, or existence itself. Life seems fairly simple, whereas religion (and its multitude of beliefs) is very complex. Your soul is in the dark, but not because your five senses failed you. You?re really looking for truth; but which person, church, or organization has the answer? The dilemma is believing in something without any tangible proof. This isn?t easy, as evidenced by the preponderance of various religions, philosophies, and scientific theories. The possibility of another dimension is not a new thought by any means. Philosophers and mystics have expounded on this for centuries. Scientists have also gotten into the act, so to speak, with their theories of parallel dimensions and alternate universes at the other end of a black hole. For the moment, I ask that you set aside any confusing theories and listen to logic. You know that you exist because your five senses tell you so. Descartes said it well, ?I think; therefore I am.? If you accept this reality and your existence, then logic tells you that you have finite existence at best because of your limited life span. You then have to ask, ?Is that all there is?? Logic again dictates the obvious answer?no. The reason is simple: It would be the greatest joke ever played on humankind. To say that your only existence is your short life on this Earth, especially with all of its inequities, is ridiculous. Life on Earth is not at all equal. Some of you live a long time; others exist only a short while. Some of you are poor, others have considerable wealth. Some of you have a racial background that is more subject to discrimination than others, and the list goes on and on. Clearly, to define existence as merely your life span on Earth doesn?t make any sense. So, where?s the rest of your existence? Again, you must use logic for your answer. If you can?t perceive the remainder of your existence with your five senses, then it must be beyond the realm of your sense of perception. The Other Side is, indeed, beyond the normal sensory perception of humankind. It?s another dimension at a higher frequency of matter. In actuality, it is reality! Think logically for a moment and consider how 100 years compares to an eternity. It?s like a drop of water in a very large ocean. If logic dictates this comparison, then it must also mandate that the vast majority of your existence isn?t on the Earth plane. And when you aren?t on the Earth Plane, you, like me, are in a place we call Home. It?s a paradise, it?s a heaven?it?s the ultimate reality of existence. I?m the living, and you, in essence, are the dead, because you?re living in a time-bound state of unreality. Please don?t be upset by this, because eventually all of you will come Home and exist in the true reality that I?m in now?when you?ve completed your purpose on Earth. You may not be able to fully comprehend the fact that you now exist in a state of unreality, but let me assure you that when you pass over to my side, it all becomes very clear. At that time, you?ll have a complete resurgence of all your memory and senses uniting in the true reality. On your Earth plane, you?re at a disadvantage because you don?t have all of your faculties available to you, as you would when you exist on the Other Side. There?s a reason for this. It would be too painful and unbearable if you could fully recall Home. Most entities, at one time or another, schedule a physical life to experience negativity. There is no negativity on the Other Side?the true reality of existence. Negativity exists on your Earth plane, but since its part of a knowledge, almost all of God?s creations choose to garner that wisdom to augment the evolvement of their soul. The purpose of life is to accumulate knowledge and experience for God, and you never stop doing this, not even on the Other Side. To summarize: Your true existence is in another dimension we call the Other Side. This dimension has a higher frequency of matter, which is beyond the realm of your five senses. It?s a dimension where you reside for eternity, except for your sojourns to a plane of unreality (like Earth), where you temporarily dwell to experience and learn for the evolvement of your soul. The Other side is your real Home. Where is the Other Side? The Other Side is a dimension that exists nearly ?on top of? the dimension you?re residing in now. There are variants, however, since the Other Side is subject to different laws of physics from your plane. The Earth plane is temporary and contains negative energy, so it?s actually what you might call antimatter. The energy and matter on the Other Side is true matter. The Other side is superimposed on your plane, but located approximately three feet higher. This is one reason why those who have seen ?spirits? or ?ghosts? see them floating a little above your ground level. Basically, the Earth plane and the Other Side share the same ?space.? But due to the higher vibrational frequency of the Other Side, you can?t sense and perceive its existence. On the other hand, you?re like ?ghosts? in our world?since our sensory levels are more developed, we perceive you much easier than you sense us. We just need to concentrate a little and activate our senses to a sharper pitch so we can see you clearly and ?look into you.? Despite our close proximity of the Earth plane, the Other Side is not a complete reproduction of your material world. Everything that is beautiful on your plane?is replicated on our plane in basically the same locations. However, we don?t duplicate changes created by humans unless they?re of great beauty. Although we have large bodies of water on the Other Side, our oceans are not as immense as yours. Much of the oceans surface on your plane is land on ours. This brings us to another very important point. Since the laws of physics vary on the Other Side, we have more room to reside here. Let me explain this to you so you can understand. Without changing our size, we?re able to fill a nine-by-twelve-foot room with hundreds of people. Our physical laws allow us to do this without shrinking to a microscopic size, because space on our plane is entirely different. So, even if we have more entities who exist on our plane, we have much more space and aren?t in the least bit crowded. This also applies to land, open space, bodies of water, buildings, and all material things. Up until now, I?ve talked about the location of the Other Side in relation to your planet. Earth, however, isn?t the only inhabited planet in the universe. There are millions of planets like yours where entities of various shapes and sizes exist and every inhabited planet has its own Other Side. In essence, each Other Side is a beautiful replica of its particular planet, and is located in the same dimension?so we travel frequently among them as we choose. Whenever we travel to other areas of the universe, we proceed by code numbers. The universe is divided into many diverse areas, and this system makes it easier to pin-point locations. To cover such a vast realm, code numbers are assigned to different sections within sections so that a particular locale can be found. For example, if I want to go to the area of the Crab Nebula, I might say I?d like to go to XL-16 and ?wish? myself there. In an instant, I arrive. We can teleport ourselves immediately by thought alone, but it?s hard to explain this phenomenon unless you can see it. We also have a large information board where we can check code number s and locations to direct our travel to unfamiliar places in the universes. I, myself, have never been to the outer regions, although I know many entities who have. The convenience of travel has established effective communication among the various other Sides of the inhabited planets. Overall, this augments the knowledge, as discoveries are freely exchanged. For the purpose of your understanding, however, I?ll confine my discussions in the following text to the Other Side of the planet Earth. Nevertheless, keep in mind that most Other Sides on various planets operate similarly. --------------------
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Evidently there wasn't enough space to hold all of what I spent hours typing so none of you would have to buy the book...so heres the second part:
Can you describe the Other Side? The beauty of the Other Side is so glorious that you might term it ?unbelievable.? I can assure you, however, that it?s even better than I describe. If you can picture the most beautiful thing you?ve ever seen and then multiply it by 100?then you might be close to imagining the beauty and composition of the Other Side. The colors of the Other Side are indescribable, especially since you don?t have this type of color on your plane. They?re brighter; with more hues, richness, and depth than any color you?ve ever seen in any picture, flower, or cloth. The greens are green-green, reds are red-red, and so on. It?s very hard to portray them unless you?ve experienced them. Colors, especially, are evident in nature. Our flowers are absolutely gorgeous and much larger than those on your plane. Our grass is dense and soft, our trees greener than green, and it?s all lush and vibrant. All the natural wonders exist on our side?mountains, rivers, trees, flowers, grass, rocks, lakes, and seashores, which combine into great vistas of incredible beauty. Certain areas such as these are also uninhabited so that we may enjoy the wildness and freedom of nature. All animals on the Earth plane, from an elephant to a household pet, can be found on the Other Side. The difference, however, is that they?re friendly and sociable. You?ll see a lion cavorting with a gazelle, rather than chasing it. There?s no loss of life or predatory hunting of one animal or another. Enemies within the animal kingdom on your plane are outright friendly on ours. The only living creatures absent on our side are those that are irritants and ecosystem necessities. Insects, such as the common housefly, ant, or mosquito, don?t exist?and neither do any pests, including rats and snails. Only animals that are beautiful or that add joy to our side are duplicated. It might interest you to know that your pets, which reside on your plane, proceed to the Other Side when they die. If you?ve loved a dog or a cat, they?ll be waiting for you when you come back Home. My dear Sylvia has a huge domain where all of her pets, which she has gathered throughout her incarnations, are waiting (and they are a considerable number); and when she comes Home, there?s always a big reunion. Several human made structures, if captivating, are duplicated on the Other Side. We have buildings representing every type of architecture, although most of these reflect the classic Greek and Roman periods. We have huge forums where we listen to lectures and view the arts, tremendous libraries and research centers where we gather knowledge, as well as individual homes and smaller buildings for either residing or general use. We have exquisite fountains and plazas, courtyards and parks, as well as gardens and meditation areas. Even the descriptions of Utopia wouldn?t be enough to portray the splendor and efficiency of my side. It is indeed a paradise! It might also interest you to know that there are areas on the Other Side that cater to an entity?s fondness for a certain lifestyle. For example, let?s say a person had many lives in a particular period of history, such as medieval times, and they grew to enjoy that era. There?s an area on my side that exclusively depicts the architecture, music, art, and work of this time. An entity may choose to live in this medieval environment?with all of its castles, villages, social habits, dress, and all things pertaining to that period. Similar environments exist for nearly ever cultural period in the history of humankind. Here?s additional information about the Other Side. First of all, we don?t have seasons. The temperature is a constant 72 degrees without fluctuation. This is very comfortable for us?not too hot or too cold, and it allows us flexibility to dress however we want without having to worry about the weather. Second, we don?t have a sun. The Other Side is bathed in a somewhat rose-hued light, which is constant and amplifies beauty. There?s also continuous light, since we don?t have what you call night. Ultimately, there isn?t any darkness on the Other Side, only light and beauty. Do we have a body on the Other Side? Yes, we definitely do have a body. I realize that some of your religions profess that there is no body or, at best, only an ethereal, intangible mass on the Other Side?but the truth is, you have a definite human body with shape and substance. Believe it or not, your body on the Other Side is even more real than the one you have now on your plane. Here are several facts you?re going to enjoy about your appearance on the Other Side: First of all, you and only you choose your body and its features. You decide which physical attributes you want?from the color of your hair to your height and weight. You choose whether or not you?re slim, stocky, or somewhat plump. As an entity, you were created to be a certain sexual gender, so while you can change your body?s appearance whenever you want, you can?t change your sexual makeup. You choose your facial features, the color of your eyes and skin, and your figure and physique. In addition, you can pick any imperfection for you body. This is a symbolic gesture to show that God?s creations aren?t as perfect as He is. This blemish may be a small scar, a white streak in the hair, or anything else that visually indicates a slight imperfection. Another fact you?ll enjoy; your body doesn?t require any sustenance?there?s no need to eat, drink, or sleep. Most of us on my side only eat or drink as a tradition or custom for a social event. We don?t sleep, but at times, we?ll recline and meditate, or just relax. If a person does decide to eat, the food is usually tasteless?therefore, the act of eating for taste is pointless. On the Other Side, your body is almost an exact replica of its composition here on Earth. It has a heart, lungs, liver, gall bladder, and so forth, but they?re located on the opposite side of your body on the Earth plane. These organs have no function, but are a symbolic imitation of your Earthly body. Is there a government on the Other Side? We don?t have a form of government, per se, but we do have a hierarchy. This is made up of a Council of elders, and then descending order: archetypes, spirit guides, sixth-level entities, fifth-level entities, and so on. Before you get confused with all of these names and terms, let me expound on each one: Elders are special creations who never incarnated. They have a very wise and beautiful Godlike love for all creation. As spokespersons for the Godhead, at least in a verbalized form, these elders bestow much information. They?re humanoid in appearance, and instead of residing on any particular ?level,? they all walk with each other. They?re wise, loving, and offer help to everyone. Unlike the rest of us, they take on the appearance of old men, with either gray or white hair and/or beards. Their wisdom is vast, and when needed, they?re called upon to enact any policies or edicts. Archetypes are also humanoid in form (without any sexual distinction), but are a completely different creation from the majority of entities who reside on the Other Side. They all look alike, almost like androids in human form; they all communicate telepathically with each other?but they don?t communicate with us. It?s not that they don?t respond to us, but they?re comparable to deaf-mutes?they have their own way of expressing themselves. Archetypes area very bright entities and seem to glow with an energy that no one else possesses. At times, when you look at an archetype for an extended period of time, your eyes will react as if a flashbulb went off in front of them. The elders say that the purpose of the archetypes is to provide the purest love and protection for those on your plane, as well as ours. No one really knows how many of them exist, but when help is needed, thousands respond. Archetypes are very powerful creations, and spirit guides use them frequently to help those they mentor on Earth. In your Bible, they?ve been observed in your dimension and have even been mistaken for an apparition of Jesus. Not too much is known about them, so they?re still a mystery to us?but the love and protection they?ve given us is not. Spirit guides such as myself perform additional duties, such as communication on your plane through mediums and/or psychics in various means. It takes many of your years to function in this manner (What we call a ?control?), whereas everyone else operates as a spirit guide at one time or another. This communication is verbalized in several ways: through a medium who is in a trance (my method), manifesting physical phenomena through a physical medium, channeling energy through a psychic healer, channeling verbalization through a clairaudient medium (which I also do), and feeding strong impressions through a channeling medium. All of these practices take years of instruction, and if not conducted properly, can considerably harm a psychic or medium. To understand the hierarchy of fifth- and sixth-level entities, I must elaborate on the seven levels of delineation on the Other Side. These levels are set up for the purpose of categorizing and organizing groups of entities according to their experience and vocation. They aren?t levels of evolvement. The first and second levels are for orientation, where entities who have just passed over from your plane reside temporarily. (These levels will be explained later.) The third level is for all entities who choose a simpler, more rural lifestyle. These entities elect to work with animals, agriculture, and craftsmanship. Fourth-level entities are a little more diversified, pursuing such aesthetic fields as art, writing, and crafts. Fifth-level entities assist in orientations. Some are counselors, and others are controls?cultivating such areas as business, medicine, science, and related studies Sixth-level entities are organizers, teachers, orators, philosophers, and leaders. Consequently, fifth- and sixth-level entities oftentimes become supervisors, managers, or leaders in various types of vocational endeavors. Due to the experience needed on these levels, entities take on even more responsibility as heads of research projects and orientation centers. Seventh-level entities choose to go back into the Godhead, and therefore, reside on the Other Side for a short time. Few entities select this level since it requires the loss of your individuality and personality, as the energy of their creation returns to the Godhead. Entities who choose this level are usually very spiritual and evolved, for their love of God is so intense that they wish to be absorbed back into him. If our hierarchy is a form of government, it would most likely resemble a pure form of the ancient Greek democracy?complete interaction with everyone on my side, and the power for all to act or contribute if they so choose. Since there are no egos on the Other Side, our hierarchy rules with complete love and harmony?wanting the best for every individual, as well as for the whole. Do all levels reside together? Regardless of what level we choose to live in, we all reside in the same dimension. There are areas on my side where the populace is predominantly on the same level?for convenience, and lifestyle or vocational purposes. While there are seven continents on your Earth plane, we have seven corresponding areas on the Other Side. Each of these is divided into 4 sections or quadrants, totaling 28 quadrants in seven different areas. Each quadrant has a main purpose of endeavor, and entities who contribute to these efforts reside there to share similar interests and/or vocations, and are also of the same level. For example, in what you call North America, there are four quadrants. Quadrant one is basically very pastoral, populated with many animals, while research is conducted in husbandry and agriculture. It?s inhabited by approximately 80 percent of the third-level entities and 20 percent of the fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-level entities. Quadrant two is an industrialized area for research on new methods of production and design. It?s inhabited by approximately 60 percent of the third-level entities, 30 percent of the fourth-level entities, and the remaining 10 percent is a combination of the fifth- and sixth-level entities. Quadrant three is an aesthetic area, since so much art and beauty is created there. It?s inhabited by approximately 80 percent of the fourth-level entities, 15 percent of the fifth-level entities, and the remainder comprises third- and sixth-level entities. Quadrant four is the scientific domain for medical and scientific work. It?s occupied by approximately 40 percent of the fifth-level entities, 40 percent of the sixth-level entities, and the remaining 20 percent contain third- and fourth-level entities. It should be noted that all of the levels are equal, only distinguished by an entity?s experience and vocation. Usually, the higher-level entities have more incarnations in life. They?ve visited the Earth plane more often, and hence, have gained more experience with negativity and all that your planet has to offer. Do we work on the Other Side? All created entities work on the Other Side. The word work is probably an inappropriate term in this case, since we all thoroughly enjoy our chosen field of work. Unlike your plane, where you work because we enjoy it and can gain more knowledge about God, our Creator. You?ll be interested to learn that all knowledge that is accumulated on your Earth plane?from new discoveries and inventions to rediscovering ancient knowledge, was first accessed on my plane. This wisdom, gained from our work and research, is then transferred onto your plane in several ways?usually by implanting it into the brain of a researcher, scientist, or philosopher. Inventions, medical cures, new scientific theories, and discoveries are all transmitted from our plane for your benefit and use. Even such things as music, art, and new designs are implanted into individuals on your plane. In general, we embrace several interests or hobbies in addition to our work. One of us may be an avid physicist, for example; and yet love to sail, write, ride a horse, or play a sport such as jai alai. Since we don?t have any time references such as your hours and minutes?these exist only on your plane?we have plenty of free time to pursue any interests. Without any sense of time on the Other Side, it?s sometimes difficult to relate to your timetable. If you live to be 100 years old on your plane, you?ve aged only a few short weeks here. This is hard to explain because we don?t measure the passage of time in any manner; we can only offer this analogy to help you understand. When your loved ones pass over to the Other Side, they have a very difficult time leaving you behind on your plane. Although you?ll be with them shortly, they know that you have to go through several trials and tribulations. They also recognize, however, that you?ll be Home soon?safe and sound. Therefore, they can?t get too upset over any difficulties you may go through?whether it be pain, suffering, or grief, because they know they?ll see you soon, even if you have years left to live on your plane. Let?s say that one of your children cuts their finger on a thorn. You may be sympathetic while they?re in pain, but you know the wound will heal and they?ll function normally in a very short time. You can?t get too upset over such trivial matters. This is the primary reason why controls such as myself have to go through such intensive training. Otherwise, we wouldn?t be able to ?relate? to your human problems. In a sense, we have to become almost humanly familiar with your plane and its negative impact?however minor?on created entities. We have to learn to become sympathetic in order to communicate effectively on your Earth plane?through a medium such as Sylvia. So, don?t be upset if a dear loved one passed over and you can?t feel their presence or experience ?communication from beyond the grave.? They?re probably very involved in their work and only waiting for the short period when you return Home. Do we have normal human functions on the Other Side? We function very much like you do on your plane, with the exception of several positive differences. As stated earlier, we don?t have to eat, drink, or sleep. Also we don?t have bowel movements of any kind, or any physical breakdowns within the body or mind. We have all the five senses that exist on your plane, but they?re greatly augmented. We can hear, taste (if we so choose), feel, talk, and see much better than on your plane. We never get tired, weary, or injured in any way. Mentally and physically, we feel 100 times better than you do, even if you?ve never felt better in your life. What abilities do we have on the Other Side that we don?t have here? Limitations on the body and mind differ from your plane to mine. Entities on the Other Side communicate telepathically for the most part, especially in small groups. In larger social gatherings, the verbal word is used so there is no confusion. We also have the ability to bilocate on the Other Side. This means that we can visit someone or someplace and still continue to do our work. We concentrate deeply, and mentally project ourselves to that different locale, while we focus on being where we are. We can do this fairly easily, and many entities can bilocate to even more places for purposes of assistance. If necessary Jesus can literally bilocate himself to millions of places. In addition, we contain within ourselves all the wisdom open to us. All of our experiences are readily remembered and stored as knowledge?from all our incarnations, as well as from the eons of learning and progression we achieved while on the Other Side. Our total experience is known to us here, whereas the greatest bulk of your knowledge is blocked in your subconscious on the Earth Plane. Any knowledge we wish to access is available to us through the Akashic Records, which contain all of the wisdom?past, present, and future?for your planet Earth and the creations that reside on its Other Side. Each inhabited planet has its own Akashic Records, which are indigenous to that particular planet and it?s Other Side. Do we keep our identities and personalities? All of you keep your basic identities and personalities?your individuality?when you?re on the Other Side. The only exceptions are those who choose the seventh level and are absorbed back into the Godhead. The hardest thing for you to realize is that your personality and individuality act as a composite of all your experiences?those from the Other Side as well as those from when you incarnated in various lives. Your experiences, whether good or bad, influence you as a person. Your actions, as well as the events you encounter, help create your personality and determine how you?ll react in a given situation. You?ve lived in various locales throughout the world in past lives, and the experiences you collected while in those lives tailor your personality and individual identity today. This is one reason why hypnotic regression therapy can be so effective in solving psychological and physical problems you may have. When you?re on my side, your personality doesn?t change; it works at its optimum level. Imagine that you?re in the most joyful period of your life?with your personality at its peak, exuding charm and happiness. Take this feeling and magnify it by 100, and you?ll get an indication of how your personality works all of the time on the Other Side. What about people we don?t like? Do we suddenly like everybody? Likes and dislikes are a part of our individual personality, and they?re directly attributed to our own experience. If we don?t care for another person, it?s usually because our experience with that person (or someone like them), has been negative. Dislike is not created into an entity; it must be formed from our own experience. On the Other Side, our awareness is open to the fullest. We actually see why people treated us poorly, whether it was because they were under too much pressure, or the even was a learning experience for the soul. With this knowledge, our outlook is very different than it would be on the Earth plane. For the most part, we don?t have any ?dislike? on the Other Side. We love all of the souls of creation because they?re a part of God, as we are. There have been many cases when relationships don?t work out on our side, but this doesn?t mean that these individuals hate each other. They still love the soul but choose not to associate with each other. This is, of course, the manifestation of individuality. Each and every entity in creation has a choice to associate with whomever they want. We all have our close friends, those we socialize with more frequently or confide in. That?s the purpose of individual personality and desire. I know of no one who hates or intensely dislikes another entity on my side?there?s just too much love and harmony here. The main reason for this love and harmony is the lack of ego. There?s no competition on the Other Side. Everyone works together for the common good. Pride and jealousy just don?t exist. This is due to the awareness and total recall of the knowledge that each of us retains in our super-conscious. We all know the purpose and reason for existence?to love, and obtain knowledge for and about God. You?ll never find entities fighting with each other, whether verbally or physically. If there?s a debate on a particular subject and someone gets angry, all entities in the vicinity will immediately become aware of this anger via the emanation of the energy within that entity?s aura. Then they?ll rush to that entity to calm them down and return them to immediate awareness and reason. This is what?s so marvelous about the Other Side?we all help each other to become more positive and loving?and with an environment free from negativity, it?s very easy to do. Are there social activities on the Other Side? We have numerous social activities on the Other Side. There are so many that they literally cater to each and every entity. There?s dancing and music in large ballrooms and auditoriums, lectures and debates on almost any subject, shows and galleries on every type of art that has been created, science shows and exhibits, sports events and regattas, fairs and exhibitions from other planets, fashion and design shows, and the list goes on. Whether a person wants to just view these events or actually be a participant, is, of course up to the individual entity. In addition to events of magnitude, there are many smaller activities taking place. We might want to listen to some chamber music, go to a dance, or visit a spa or vacation spot and enjoy outdoor activities such as archery or horseback riding. There are many places to fish (catch and release, of course); swim; sail; hike; mountain climb; or do whatever we?d like. There?s no hunting, however, since nothing can be destroyed on the Other Side, nor would we wish to do so. There are many athletic activities here. Most are non-contact sports, because no one feels the need for aggression. Sports such as jai alai, handball, and tennis are very popular; as well as sailing, swimming, and diving. Other sports include canoeing, rowing, hiking, equestrian activities, gymnastics, track and field, bowling, golf, and skiing, (The snow won?t melt even at 72 degrees!) Almost any non-contact sport imaginable is played on the Other Side. Other social activities include hobbies such as cooking. Even though food has little taste and is not necessary for our existence, gourmet chefs still like to cook and will participate in shows periodically; as will craftspeople, artists, and so forth. Individual entities or couples are constantly throwing parties for their friends. This is one occasion when we might indulge in a little food and drink?not necessarily for the taste, but for the social atmosphere. When we come Home to the Other Side, we find ourselves hard-pressed not to engage in some sort of social activity. Although we don?t have to participate, most do. I myself am what you might call a ?party girl.? I love parties and dances, and I attend them regularly when invited. Sylvia always jokes that when I?m not around her (another guide stands in, so to speak), I?m off to another party. I do love them, as most entities do. What can someone do for all eternity? We work, socialize, learn, and enjoy our existence. It?s interesting to note here that we?re all 30 years old on the Other Side. This is the perfect age because we have a good combination of maturity and youth. Only the elders take on the appearance of being older to project their wisdom and learning. None of us on the Other Side consider eternity to be long or drawn out, because time really doesn?t exist for us. We?re too busy to think of such things anyway. We?re all blissfully happen, considering it an absolutely joyous blessing that we can exist in this manner, and we continue to learn about and exist with our Creator in a paradise-like setting. Do we have houses on the Other Side? Those who choose to do so can have a house on the Other Side. Entities who have soulmates (a form of marriage) live in individual houses. Many others live in dormitory-like structures similar to apartments with single rooms, or larger quarters where groups can reside. Since we don?t need to sleep, we prefer this type of residence due to the social opportunities. The houses where individual entities live can be of any design and style of architecture. Among the most popular are: Tudor, Georgian, and Greco-Roman, as well as contemporary designs. Many are elaborately furnished, while others are more rustic and simplistic. Many exhibit a multitude of glass windows and doors, while others are completely open. Every house is distinct because residents usually design them to fit their own desires and specifications. The construction of buildings on the Other Side is handled in two ways. Some choose the conventional manner where carpenters, woodworkers, and artisans?who enjoy this kind of work?build the house. The other method isn?t possible on your plane: Entities actually construct a building using only energy and thought. Let?s say we want to construct a new forum. The site will be selected, and several architects will outline the contours of the building using only their thoughts and ideas. If you could view this process, you?d see actual lines forming in midair, almost as if the architect was drawing these lines on a drafting table. By chance, if they don?t like what they see, they can always erase the ?energy? lines and start again. Once this blueprint is complete, a group of entities gathers together and produce the materials for the building?walls, roof, windows, interior finishing?all in wood, or whatever substances are called for. All of this is done through concentrated thought processes that transform into real matter. We essentially follow the same process to maintain our own appearance. If we decide to change how we look, we merely focus on changing our appearance, and we can instantaneously change, for example, from a blonde with blue eyes to a brunette with brown eyes. We do this from time to time according to our desires. Is there marriage on the Other Side? Since we live many lives on your Earth plane, we may have several husbands and/or wives. Let?s say that an entity lived 20 lives. They might very well have 20 different spouses. On the Other Side, an entity has a soulmate, which is very similar to being married, only this relationship lasts for an eternity. When we were created by the Godhead, we were intrinsically whole for the most part. I say ?for the most part,? because a soulmate is actually the created ?other half? of ourselves. If an individual is created as a male entity, then a female entity is created to be the complement or ?other half? of this individual?establishing, in two entities, the ultimate duality of male and female. Not all entities are created for this duality?some are created for the purpose of experiencing ?singularity??but the vast majorities have a soulmate. A soulmate is a created entity who unites with another entity when both have determined that the time is right for this dual relationship to occur. It is, in essence, a marriage for eternity. Usually, soulmates exist singularly until they?ve completed their own chosen level of experience and evolvement. Once they?ve completed their training, they come together and exist in a marriage as soulmates. This bond can take eons depending upon the individuals involved. As I said earlier, some entities have already gone through this process of learning and are now together, while others are still in the evolving stages. When the time is right, they almost always come together. An entity may or may not have a soulmate, depending upon whether they?re a singular creation or they?ve reached the ?time? of their marriage. ?Kindred souls? are those who have a very deep love for each other. Most of us have numerous kindred souls, but only one soulmate. For example, if we have a deep, loving friendship with someone in this life, it?s probable that we?re kindred souls on the Other Side. All of our close friends and ?significant others? on the Other Side are kindred souls. You may ask if there?s sexual activity on the Other Side. Yes, there is a form of sexual relationship, which we call ?merging.? Merging is difficult to explain because it can be sexual or nonsexual, and you don?t have anything like it on your plane. It?s the act in which one?s soul actually merges with, or comes together with, another entity?s soul. In ?sexual merging,? the process starts out like the sexual act on your plane, but then the bodies actually coexist together, completely merged and fused. Sexual merging results in the most intense of ?orgasms,? but it?s tough to describe because you can?t experience it on the Earth Plane. If you can imagine the most intense and pleasurable orgasm that you?ve ever had and multiply it by 100, then you might come close to what sexual merging feels like on my side. This orgasm is also much longer than on your plane. If you can fathom an orgasm that lasts several hours, this may be a good indication of the length of an orgasm on the Other Side. Sexual merging is acceptable and available to all entities. You must understand that there?s no moral judgment for this act between nonsoulmates because it?s done in the purest intent?love. Morality on the Other Side doesn?t exist, simply because negativity doesn?t exist. There?s no such thing as ?poor morals,? because all entities are loving, don?t have egos, and would never harm another entity in any way. This might shock those who live by high moral and religious standards, but your mode of life on the Earth Plane is surrounded by negativity?while life on the Other Side is loving, peaceful, and completely blessed in every way. We don?t have morality issues simply because there?s no need for them. Nonsexual merging, on the other hand, is the act in which the soul of one entity on my plane enters into another, and experiences the total essence of that person: mind, body, and soul. It?s very intense and pleasurable. This process isn?t sexual in any way, but occurs on a cerebral level, creating a mental high that?s indescribable. Generally speaking, everyone on the Other Side has, at one time or another, participated in nonsexual merging. Soulmates come together in the traditional way. The male entity will ?purpose? a union to the female entity. If she accepts, and both are at their desired level of evolvement, they then go to the Council and ask for their blessing. Once this is done, the couple is sanctified and begins their life as soulmates on my plane. Choosing a soulmate always originates with the male entity. Although this may sound chauvinistic, it?s a tradition we uphold. The female has the right to refuse or defer the offer in all cases. At times, more than one male may ask a particular female to be their soulmate. This circumstance is very rare, however, and never leads to any violence or bad feelings, as the female accepts whomever she wants. Soulmates generally choose to live in a house together. This doesn?t diminish, however, any of their prior social customs, activities, or friendships. Many soulmates live very happily doing things together, while others may want to pursue their own interests in a singular manner for a portion of their time. Either way is acceptable. Can we see God or Jesus on the Other Side? God is always present on our side, but not so in bodily form. The presence of our Father and Mother is so powerful that it exudes through every pore of our body and every cell of our being. Our Father and Mother constantly communicate with all on the Other Side through mental infusion and love. The energy of God?s love is a true manifestation on our side and is constantly present. There isn?t a moment of existence on my side when we don?t feel God?s presence. We?re all bathed in God?s energy of love and mental infusion every day, and there?s a method that we can use to ?speak? or ?communicate? with God. Each quadrant has a designated area where an entity may go and speak directly to, and be confronted with, a portion of God?s energy and presence?suitable for direct communication. This method is called ?going behind the seventh level,? and it is, in essence, the energy of all entities who have chosen to go to the seventh level. Since all of us are a portion of God?s energy and contain a small measure of His knowledge, many entities who have chosen to go to the seventh level encompass a great deal of Divine knowledge. All of this knowledge is combined with the concerted presence of God. I myself have ?gone behind the seventh level? several times, and it?s an unforgettable experience. When I?m there, I find myself in a space of mistlike clouds swirling around me. The energy of God is paramount, and the strength of His presence is overpowering. I can see and hear what seems to be millions of faces within this mass, and I can communicate and receive answers verbally or telepathically. Some entities choose not to go behind the seventh level simply because the energy is so powerful that it can be disconcerting?and even uncomfortable. The emanation of God?s power is so strong that some entities can?t handle it very well. The elders go continually for direct communication with the Godhead, but most entities refrain because there?s really no need to go. I?ve been told that certain created entities in the upper levels have communicated with God in a bodily form. This is only possible for specially created and powerful entities, such as Jesus. Jesus does exist on my side in bodily form. His power and goodness are constant, and he?s always a reminder that God?s love is perfect. He walks among us and often talks with entities, interacting with all who approach him. Since he can divide himself into infinite locations, he?s present at any time. You might notice him in serious and loving discussions with a group of entities by a fountain, find him walking on a hill with one or two entities conferring about philosophy, or see him laughing uproariously after someone has told a joke. Jesus is not a morbid or suffering person by any means. He has a fantastic sense of humor, he loves to have a good time at a party or get-together, yet he can counsel or answer questions for anyone in need. Most of his counseling focuses on philosophy, or how to choose a theme for an incarnation. The bulk of his time is spent just being there for all of us, and personifying the epitome of God?s creation. What is the purpose of negativity? While the Other Side is the eternal Home for all of us, many choose to incarnate on the Earth Plane to experience negativity. Inasmuch as negativity is an aspect of knowledge, we incarnate on a negative plane to gain that knowledge, because without it, we?d be missing the total scope of all wisdom. It?s much easier to be positive in a perfect environment (such as the Other Side) without the burden of negativity. Most of us, however, test the strength and ?mettle? of our souls to gain experience and knowledge about evil. This wisdom is needed for an accurate perspective of our true reality?the Other Side. For example, how can we really appreciate and know joy unless we?ve experienced sorrow? How can our emotions relate to something evil, sad, or negative unless we?ve personally experienced that? Without knowing about the ?black,? we?d never appreciate (and perhaps take for granted) the ?white.? One question I?m asked most often is: ?If evil exists, doesn?t that mean that a part of God is evil?? The answer is a resounding no! Certainly, God has the knowledge of evil and negativity, but that doesn?t make Him evil or negative. In actuality, the ?creations? of God cause and perpetuate evil. Humankind creates negativity, not God. If God?s creations are interpreted as a part of God, then some may feel that God has negativity within Him. But the Godhead simply has the knowledge of negativity. Negativity is a by-product of God?s creations. Since negativity is a part of knowledge and we are the experiencing part of God, then we experience negativity and perpetuate it in order to gain wisdom from it. God is all-loving and merciful. We, as his creations, choose to endure negativity so that we can learn more about the knowledge that the Godhead contains. Even when we experience or create this negativity, remember that it only exists in the physical world?it doesn?t exist on the Other Side. If this is confusing, just keep in mind that we?re only subjected to negativity while incarnate on a negative plane of unreality?for a length of time that is nothing compared to an eternity. Maybe the following analogy will be helpful. Imagine that you created a beautiful piece of artwork. When it?s done, what do you do with it? Do you proudly display it on your mantel? Do you sell it? Do you give it to a friend? Let?s say, for example, that you give it to a friend. Once they receive your artwork, then your friend is responsible for what to do with it. They may proudly display it, store it in the attic, sell it, or simply throw it away. All of these actions are acceptable to God, but only you can determine which of these choices is ?good or ?bad.? God has given His creations (humankind) the free will to choose all of their actions. As a result, we?re responsible for ourselves, our actions, and our manner of obtaining our knowledge. God has created us and allowed us to evolve on our own. He doesn?t interfere in this learning process, but He constantly offers His love and support. Yet, God has imposed one rule for all of creation. He won?t allow any of His creative energy to be lost. Everything that He created is intrinsically good, but if an entity evolves into something evil or negative, they?re still ultimately absorbed back into Him when they?ve reached their final evolvement. When and if there?s a time frame involved, only God knows. All of us feel that there?s no end to evolvement; it?s eternal. To summarize, we choose to experience the part of God?s knowledge that is negativity. We do this to gain more knowledge about God. God is all-loving and merciful, and allows all of us to evolve on our own without His interference. Humankind created negativity in this self-evolving process. The true reality is on the Other Side?a positive dimension in which negativity doesn?t exist. How do we choose our incarnations? Before choosing to incarnate onto the Earth plane, an entity must go through an extensive orientation process. They do this because of the vast differences between the two dimensions of positive and negative. Without orientation, they?d be totally confused and wouldn?t be able to adjust without preparation. Similarly, they go through an orientation when they come back from an incarnation?for the same reason above?and also to get over any trauma that they incurred while on the negative plane. This is conducted in what are called ?Orientation Centers.? Orientation Centers were implemented because of the trauma that occurs when an entity shifts between positive and negative planes. The change is just too intense for an entity to handle. It would be comparable to traveling from a very hot, tropical climate and then going to the North Pole without wearing any clothes! Entities on the Other Side are not subjected to negativity, and they live without it. But when they incarnate and suddenly shift to a negative plane, the resulting trauma shocks their soul. Without the process of orientation, this shock would be impossible for them to withstand. To a lesser degree, although just as vital, is the procedure for returning from the negative plane to the Other Side. Entities who experience a traumatic death often need orientation to realize their death and prepare for their new plane of existence. Their physical life will be ?reviewed? in an Orientation Center to determine if they?ve accomplished their goals, how well they succeeded, ways they could have improved, or any mistakes they might have made. This process gives the entity the complete scope of experience and accomplishments during their recent incarnation for their soul?s evolvement. Each quadrant has an Orientation Center. These centers are larger in some quadrants than others due to population density. All of them are amply equipped to handle any entity going to or coming from the Earth Plane. Most people regard death, or passing over, as a trauma. On the Other Side, the opposite is true?incarnating on the Earth Plane is the real trauma. To prepare, each entity enters their respective Orientation Center for the quadrant where they?ll incarnate. When an entity decides to incarnate on the Earth Plane, they immediately seek the help and aid of counselors at the Orientation Center. Here, they review what they want to accomplish. Depending on their needs and desires, the entity chooses parents, locations, ethnic or racial group, family background, class or mode of living, body shape, appearance, health issues, environment, and conditions for positive and negative experiences. All of these factors and more are examined thoroughly by the entity and the counselors?experts on incarnation and entity needs. Oftentimes, a counselor will try to dissuade an entity from picking an incarnation if they feel that they can?t handle it. Most of the time, however, counselors help an entity choose a life that will follow their theme (such as a ?major? in college), so they can evolve at their own pace in their chosen field of knowledge. Counselors are usually fifth-and sixth-level entities who are very knowledgeable about the Earth plane and what it has to offer. When I?m not aiding Sylvia, I help war victims in the Orientation Center on my home quadrant. I also assist many small children through the orientation process. Entities can always choose their incarnations and surrounding environment. Most of their free will is implemented while they?re on the Other Side. On the Earth plane, they may think they?re acting with free will, but they?re actually following their own subconscious knowledge and direction. Since they?ve pre-chosen what they want to experience on the Earth Plane, their incarnation is ultimately a matter of implementing these choices. An entity has no conscious knowledge of these predetermined elements and events. When they go through a particularly difficult time, the last thing they think about is the fact that they chose to go through with it. Everything that they?ve experienced in their life is directly attributable to the choices they?ve made before they incarnated?whether good or bad. Some of them may take solace in this; others may not. It?s hard for a parent to realize this when they?ve just lost a child. Yet every member of that family chose to go through that particular experience. Those entities who feel tremendous guilt over a particular action must realize that unless it was done with malicious intent, there can be no guilt. Those entities involved chose to go through with it. Due to the orientation process, almost all entities make a smooth transition from one plane to another. There are very few ?Earthbound??entities who don?t make the transition from the Earth Plane to the Other Side. They reside in a sort of ?limbo? state between the two dimensions, and many times are referred to as ?ghosts.? When an entity?s soul enters a new fetus, and they feel that it?s not the proper time or circumstance, they may exit early and come back to the Other Side. This is one of the primary reasons for miscarriages and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). This doesn?t apply, however, to suicide. The only action that is not charted is suicide. If an entity takes their own life, they must come back into another life immediately. Moreover, they have to come back and experience the same circumstances again. They must finish out their spiritual plan before they can stay ?Home.? There?s no easy way out. Orientation Centers on the Other Side are very efficient. Each provides counselors who specialized in certain types of death?cancer, suicide, trauma, war-related deaths, children?s deaths, and so on. In addition, orientation areas are set aside for entities who have certain preconceived beliefs about what happens after death. This ensures that a professed atheist or a person with a traditional religious background doesn?t get confused when confronted with the reality of death and the Other Side. Francine, please tell us about your life on the Other Side. Most of my time is devoted to guiding Sylvia and watching her loved ones. I also spend a lot of time researching my communication to those of you on the Earth plane when I speak through Sylvia?s body in a trance session. Like most other entities on the Other Side, I spend the rest of my time going to lectures, concerts, parties, and social gatherings with friends. Compared to a normal lifestyle on the Other Side, it can be somewhat confining to be the control for a medium such as Sylvia. But then again, the span of Sylva?s life on the Earth plane seems so much longer than on the Other Side. I socialize with my friends as much as possible and often consult with Raheim (Sylvia?s other spirit guide), the elders, and Jesus about Sylvia and her life?s work. I keep in touch with the latest discoveries in science and the arts---and especially with those developments that deal with the Earth plane. I need to do this in order to answer questions and deal with the various problems faced by entities who are now incarnated. When I finish my job as Sylvia?s guide, I?ll go back to a normal lifestyle. I?ll continue to work on the Orientation Center since that?s one of my primary functions on the Other Side. I?ve chosen to evolve and perfect my soul by doing work on the Other Side, rather than having a large number of incarnations. It?s a somewhat slower evolution process, but then, I have an eternity to fulfill it. I don?t like to incarnate (as most entities I know do); therefore, I have to work and learn about negativity by associating myself with it?such as being Sylva?s guide and being somewhat ?humanized? to better relate to those I serve. To Conclude? The information that I?ve given you about the ?Other Side? is for a purpose. It?s part of my function as a guide for the medium, Sylvia Browne. I?ve been given the responsibility to communicate truth to your plane and to help as many of you I can?with the knowledge that there?s a purpose for your existence; and that God loves you, watches over you, and created you as a part of himself. Most of you will accept this information, take it to heart, and utilize it. You?re the lucky ones; you know truth when confronted with it. You accept it and use it for yourself and others. You gain knowledge that will help you survive your realm of negativity, and you can understand its purpose. You do nothing but gain spirituality for your own chosen level of evolvement, for you?re the ones who must share the responsibility of giving this knowledge to others who don?t have it. You?ll do this because you?re the entities who are more evolved, more loving, and more representative of God?s image. You?ll do this because it?s truth. For those of you who absolutely don?t believe in the information presented to you in these chapters, try to keep an open mind. Even if you can?t accept most of it, turn to logic rather than belief systems that have programmed and hampered your quest for truth. I say this not to convert you, but to make it easier for you. I have an advantage over you: I know it?s truth. I know that you?ll be confronted with it and won?t be able to refute it when the time comes to make the transition to the Other Side. You?ll know then that it?s truth, and perhaps you?ll be somewhat sad that you didn?t accept it while you were incarnate. Don?t be discouraged?we all evolved according to the plan that ?God within? has chosen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part III REINCARNATION The Beginnings The belief in reincarnation is as old as the origins of humankind, especially since the concept of ?rebirth? is so evident and prominent in nature. The sun is ?reborn? every day after ?dying? at sunset. The seasons come and go, but they always return to the beginning of their cycle. Nature is a great teacher?provoking primitive peoples to emulate and incorporate it into their many beliefs and rituals. As humans evolved and their thought processes became more complex, so too did their belief in reincarnation. Reincarnation means something entirely different to a Hindu than it would to a Muslim or a Christian. The reincarnation philosophy for Buddhists also varies from that of a follower of Confucius. These differences are primarily dogmatic, however. Culture, religion, ritual, and tradition all influence the entire concept of reincarnation. If you?ve researched reincarnation at all, you?ve probably realized that most of the differences in beliefs are minor?with a few exceptions, of course. The basic premises are similar for most cultures, and the one fact that seems to unite all religions and cultures is this: More than two-thirds of the people in this world believe in reincarnation in one form or another! So, why does the majority of the world?s population believe in reincarnation? Is it because of religion, culture, or tradition? Does it stem from primitive human beings? innate beliefs? What is it within human being that makes them believe in reincarnation? I (Francine) believe that the answer is: truth. As you read this section, I think that most of you will see the logic behind it. I?ve tried to simplify and explain it fully, in a logical sequence, the concept of reincarnation. In many areas, my views might conflict with existing dogma on the subject, but I happen to believe that the following material is not only the most comprehensive explanation of the many facets of reincarnation, but is also the truest interpretation in existence today. The Purpose of Reincarnation In simple terms, the purpose of reincarnation is to perfect the soul by gaining experience and knowledge in a physical environment. Your Earth is one such place to accomplish this. You know that you need air to breathe, food to eat, and shelter to protect yourselves from the rigors of nature. You know that you share this world with billions of other life-forms that help you to survive. You know that your world basically consists of earth and water, also used for survival. Finally, you know that humans all experience both positive and negative life situations. The physical world is a learning place for your soul. Only there can you experience negative events and trauma. Only there can your soul test its strength by coming face-to-face with hardship. Only there can you feel alone, afraid, and abandoned. But in truth, God is ever-present with you, as the following pages will explain. Why do we need to incarnate? It is a natural law of progression to incarnate. In other words, we become aware that the time has come to ?go to school.? Since the Other Side is a perfect environment without negativity, a ?physical plane? was created so that we could experience and learn about negative forces. In all honesty, some souls never incarnate. Consequently, their climb to perfection is slow and tedious because they can?t perfect in an environment that is without flaws. It takes them much longer because they can?t experience the negative; they can only observe it. Their souls haven?t been ?tested? by negativity. On the other hand, there are a few souls who reincarnate every century. They truly desire the highest degree of experience. There are some entities?the rare exceptions?who never choose to stay on the Other Side for any length of time. They?re constantly revolving into lives. To most of us who have evolved, we find this very depressing. Do we set a goal for our perfection? Yes, most definitely. Each entity chooses a major theme to perfect; along with two are three subthemes in addition to the main theme. This would be comparable to taking a major and minor theme that branches out into other related areas. We are what you might call ?specialists,? because we?re all individuals, but we experience different aspects of life and negativity. This, of course, holds true even on the Other Side, as we each select our level of knowledge and perfection. We carry a main theme throughout all of our incarnations, even amid the different variations, environments, and situations. Naturally, this has a tremendous impact on our personalities, which we maintain throughout all of our lives here and on the Other Side. When choosing a theme, we also select the amount of knowledge we wish to obtain during the fulfillment of this theme. Again, we can compare this to students who want to attain a Ph.D., while others are quite satisfied with a high school diploma. In picking a theme, we may only want to experience a part of it, or as much as is humanly possible. Themes can be defined as a ?reference point? of experience, or a ?frame of mind? that influences all experiences. There are 45 themes that we can choose from [see pages 104 to 114 of Souls? Perfection for the entire list]. I?ve often been asked, Why 45? The number doesn?t matter as long as the totality of experience is fulfilled. From the beginning of reincarnation, we?ve incarnated in these select themes, and no new ones have been added or are even needed. In all cases, incarnations are chosen for the sole purpose of achieving a goal. In most cases, this goal is to obtain knowledge. Some of us may choose to live life to help another person in their perfection, while a select few may do so because of a karmic tie or debt. In every case, something is always learned which, in turn, progresses the soul. Since we incarnate to perfect, who judges our degree of evolvement? You do. You?re the one who knows what you most need to learn. When you?re on my side, you?re much more aware of your positive qualities as well as your shortcomings. A genius on your plane may use one-tenth of their mind?s capacity, but when you?re on the Other Side, you use nine-tenths of your capacity. You have complete awareness of where you?ve been and where you?re going, and you?re not confused or unaware. Your knowledge is vast because you can remember not only all of your past incarnations, but you also retain all of the knowledge that you?ve obtained while working and living on the Other Side. This knowledge is embedded in your subconscious while you?re on the Earth Plane, and it opens up fully when you pass over to the Other Side. Here, you have full comprehension of how far your soul has progressed to the level of perfection you?ve chosen. No one is looking over your shoulder. You?re responsible for your own learning process, just as you?re responsible for attaining your chosen level of perfection. If one entity chooses a perfection level that is similar to another entity, this doesn?t mean that they?ll both necessarily choose the same road to attain it. You may select many lives to accomplish things that others might complete in just a few lives. It?s your choice, and it doesn?t matter how you do it or how long it takes. Each of you has a part of God within you; therefore, when you judge yourself, it?s essentially God who is judging Himself. The judgment process doesn?t arbitrate between good and evil, as many religions have taught us. It?s more of an evaluation of how you?re progressing. There?s no one such as St. Peter or anyone else who?s going to condemn you for your actions. If you live a life that wasn?t particularly successful, you and you alone will make the decision to live another life to see if you can do better. Part of the reason why reincarnation exists is to give you as many chances as you need to learn a difficult lesson. The full concept of perfection is neverending; you continue to learn even after you stop incarnating. Does everyone evolve to a perfected state? All of us who have chosen to perfect and experience for God will reach our chosen level of perfection. Some of us may take longer than others, but we all make it. There?s no such thing as a person who can?t reach their chosen level. If this is the case, then why do some people seem so unevolved? We can?t judge a person?s soul, although we do have access to records on my side, so we can more fully evaluate the progress of a particular entity. But many times we make the mistake of judging a person?s behavior and we say they?re not evolved. Behavior alone is not an accurate criterion for evolvement. Many of us choose lives where we become pawns for someone else?s quest for perfection. We incarnate to create a certain situation or environment for someone else. On the Earth Plane, every victim has to have a victimizer, every follower has to have a leader, and every ?good? has to have a ?bad.? Does reincarnation ever end? You must realize that we?re all here to help each other. We all want to end reincarnation so that we don?t have to live with negativity, even if it?s only for a fraction of eternity. It will end, however, when everyone has attained the amount of knowledge and perfection that they ordained for themselves. When all of us have sufficiently been exposed to, and learned from, the negative forces, reincarnation will cease. By helping each other attain perfection, it will end more quickly. According to records on my side, and if everything progresses at it should, reincarnation on Earth should end by the year 2100. This doesn?t preclude the fact that reincarnation will still exist on other planets, because there are still billions of planets that have had or still have the capability for reincarnation. When all of the planets have evolved to the point where reincarnation is no longer necessary, then it will end. Why do we forget our past lives? When we incarnate, we lose all conscious memory of where we came from, what it?s like, and what we?ve done. Conscious knowledge of our past could hinder us; it might divert us from our current path. It could also hold us back. Words cannot describe the beauty, peace, and happiness on my side: beyond description. If we retained that knowledge consciously and knew we had a choice between living in a beautiful paradise or a ?slum? of negativity, most of us would be jumping off bridges to get back home! There are, however, several entities on the Earth side who remember bits and pieces of their past. This is referred to as ?subconscious seepage,? since the memory of one?s past and the Other Side is buried in the subconscious mind. Some of us might ?know? or suspect that we?ve lived before another life?probably in another country, time, and racial or ethnic situation. We might see past-life vignettes in our dreams, or experience ?d?j? vu? when we visit certain places. Since our own subconscious mind has so much knowledge, there are bound to be a few leaks from time to time. Many of us, however, don?t recognize them. There are several evolved entities in the incarnate state who remember past lives and readily accept the Other Side because of it. Most of us don?t remember, and we really aren?t meant to. We choose a life to learn and perfect?to make the task harder and to evolve more quickly?and we choose not to have full memory so that we can learn our lessons ?the hard way.? We?ve found that these lessons have a deeper meaning and influence on our soul. This doesn?t mean that the remembrance of past lives and the Other Side is detrimental; in fact, many times it can be beneficial and help us evolve faster. Regardless of how much we remember from our subconscious, there?s a built-in regulator that won?t allow complete access to the Other Side. If some people have a memory of their past, they?re only able to see a very small segment of it. Do previous lives influence our current life? Most definitely they do, although most of you don?t realize it. Your likes and dislikes in this life are influenced by previous lives. Your personality has been deeply affected and built upon previous incarnations. Other areas that your past lives can tremendously influence include: physical health, appearance, race, creed, religion, value systems, wealth, habits, aesthetic talents of any kind, sex, and I could go on and on, but I think you get the general idea. Everything in your current life is affected by your past lives. In many cases, negativity on the Earth plane is perpetuated by the influence of past lives. Bigotry and racial hatred are prime examples. Almost everyone at one time or another has experienced such prejudices?with some of you even functioning as both a victim and offender. Take a look at your life and analyze it as an incarnate. You can discover how many of your interests, habits, likes, and dislikes could be the direct result of your past life. Is your house furnished in a particular d?cor? Do you like certain foods more than others? Do you vacation in a certain place all of the time? Are you uncomfortable with a certain ethnic group? You may be surprised to learn how much influence the past can have on your life. --------------------
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Is there any real benefit to remembering past lives?
For the majority of you, I would say yes. The main benefit is therapeutic in nature, but unfortunately, most therapists who practice today don?t incorporate the premises of reincarnation into their methodology. Consequently, they bypass one of the primary healing modes?to relieve both physical and mental problems?for individuals: past-life therapy. Past-life therapy, through the use of hypnotic regression, has garnered some astounding results from those who utilize it. Sylvia has used it many times and effected wellness (in one particular session) with clients who have been in psychoanalysis and medical treatment for years. Most phobias that have no reason to exist or can?t be traced to an incident in someone?s current life are usually the result of a past-life experience. In fact, many traumatic incidents that a person has gone through in previous lives can be triggered by similar circumstances in their current life. Many illnesses, which doctors term ?psychosomatic,? are often ?carried over? from past incarnations. For example, at a certain age, a famous actor started experiencing acute pain in the solar plexus region of his body. After seeing numerous doctors, none of them could find a reason for the pain, so he consulted a psychic. The psychic determined that this actor had been ?run through? with a sword in that particular area of his body during a past life. Once he discovered this, the actor no longer experienced any pain. This is a key example of how a ?carryover? from a past life can affect you. To develop your recollection of past lives, hypnosis is considered the safest and most valid method. Sylva?s church has many professional hypnotists who conduct past life regressions. Almost everyone who undergoes past-life regression feels better mentally and physically afterward, but if you take part in this process, be prepared for an emotional release. Some of the issues you can resolved from this are: psychosomatic ills, phobias, habits, a misguided life purpose, questions about your themes, relationship troubles, and many more. The benefits are many, although this isn?t for everyone. What is transmigration? Transmigration is the belief that, after death, your soul can pass into any type of body, from the lowest form of life?such as in insect?to a human being. If you lived a ?bad? life, you?re placed into a lower form of life, depending upon the depth of your evil. If you led a ?good? life, your soul will be placed into an elevated form?human. Do we incarnate as animals or other life-forms? No. Species remain pure to species. At the origin of reincarnation, we observed ?lower? life-forms evolve in their own dimension. This discovery transpired due to personal interest, care, and the pursuit of knowledge; it was purely research. Some of us even went to the extent of ?sharing? in the life forces of plants and animals (similar to the way I do when Sylvia goes into a trance). Since no one could sustain this ?sharing? with lower life-forms for any length of time, the practice was soon halted. Perhaps, the knowledge of this sharing ?leaked? from the subconscious mind and started the entire philosophy of transmigration. In any case, all forms of life remain true to species. Humans incarnate only as human beings, and not as other life-forms such as animals or plants. These have their own ?souls,? so to speak, but they don?t participate in reincarnation. When animals die, they pass over to my side and reside in areas designated for them. Plants, as a part of nature, are generally duplicated on the Other Side. What is karma? My definition of karma is very simple: experience. Karma is nothing more than the experience you gain while incarnate. Unfortunately, many people on the Earth plane interpret karma as negative ?payback? for evil actions. Eastern philosophies view karma as an external balance. If you live a good life and perform good deeds, you?ll advance your soul by generating ?good karma.? If your actions are immoral, you?ll incur ?bad karma? or a ?karmic debt,? which will hamper your soul?s progression. In this context, karmic debt contributes greatly to the belief of transmigration. Karma, when viewed as a punishment, can be very harsh and unreasonable. It then becomes the equivalent of the Christian ?hell,? which is simply a fear tactic for control. Karma, to many, is so strictly interpreted that some people won?t interfere in another person?s life no matter what the circumstances. This can lead to tragedies that could have easily been avoided. The true interpretation of karma is simply?your experiences in life. It shouldn?t prevent you from helping others, no should you incur karmic debt except in very rare circumstances. Experience is necessary in order for the soul to progress and learn. The whole purpose of reincarnation is to face negativity, survive it, and learn from it so that the soul can fully appreciate and know what it means to be good. Does karma ever end? Yes. Since karma is nothing more than experience, when all souls are finished with physical life, then the entire Earth plane will cease to exist. There will be no need for negativity to exist anymore since it has been fully experienced. When the need for negativity ceases, then the physical planes of existence will end as they will no longer be needed. What is karmic debt? Karmic debt is a form of retribution. When a soul causes harm to another soul, then they?ll have to face reciprocation for the action. For example, if an entity murders someone, then they, in turn, would be murdered, whether it be in the same life or another. In actuality, very few karmic debts are ever incurred. They do happen from time to time, but they?re almost non-existent. But then, you might ask, ?But what about all of the atrocities committed in this world? Do entities who commit these offenses incur retribution in any way?? The answer is yes, but retribution is not delivered on an individual basis. In the fullness of God?s time, all entities who perpetuate evil shall be reabsorbed into the Godhead. However, such evildoers are necessary for the rest of us to learn from. In the short span of physical life, these entities are needed to test the strength of our soul. A karmic debt is incurred only in cases where an entity maliciously intends to cause harm. Atrocities are committed every day, but most of these acts are not intentional. Rather, they?re caused by passion, belief, (political, religious, and so on), or mental derangement (caused by insanity, drunkenness, drug abuse, et cetera). Very few entities ever want to maliciously harm another entity. In the rare case of a karmic debt, the offending entity would simply experience a similar action done to them. The purpose of this retribution is not for ?punishment,? but to help the entity learn the full impact of their action so that they don?t repeat it. What are karmic ties? The term karmic tie is used to express a bond between entities who share past experiences or situations?whether good or bad. As few as two entities, or as many as millions, can have a karmic tie. Karmic ties are based on a number of things?love, hate, ethnic and religious backgrounds, friendship, and unfinished business. Many of us have at least one karmic tie, and some of us have many more. Did you ever wonder why you have such an affinity (or dislike) for another person? Many times, it?s because you?re karmically tied to this person in some way. Let?s say that an entity has an intense dislike for another entity, yet they feel drawn toward them, regardless of the disdain. If the Akashic Records were consulted, it might be discovered that these entities had lived together in a previous incarnation, developed a poor relationship, and died before working out the problems between them. Therefore, the current dislike was caused by the previous poor relationship, but the attraction was the result of the unfinished business. Is there actually proof of reincarnation? I would like to answer this with another question: Is there actually any proof that reincarnation doesn?t exist? This question poses a greater problem for the skeptic than the believer. Proof is intangible. When you research and do your homework on the existence of reincarnation, you?ll find that there?s much more ?proof? for it than against it. If you establish your case on the laws of probability, then the existence of reincarnation would triumph because more than two-thirds of the world believes in it. If you base your argument on historical documents, then you?ll find that there are many references to reincarnation, particularly in the Bible. If you predicate your findings on logic, then there?s no contest: Reincarnation is more logical than any other opposing viewpoint. If you strictly rely on religion as your basis for a conclusion, then the argument for reincarnation wins again, because it?s either believed whole-heartedly, or at least, tolerated by the vast majority of the world?s populace. When substantiated by historical documents, the case for the existence of reincarnation has far more followers than opponents. All of the major religious writings mention reincarnation. None of them, including the Bible, ever state that reincarnation, or the belief that it exists, is false. The vast majority of famous authors have written about reincarnation; few have not. The Dead Sea Scrolls , and writings by the Essenes, (an early Gnostic sect), are making modern-day Christianity take notice in reanalyzing their theological teachings. These scribes were reincarnationists. Early writings on reincarnation were composed as far back as 2500 B.C. in China. Other writings, such those in Egypt 3500 B.C., or in China as far back as 4500 B.C., all predate the earliest records of Judaism from which Christianity sprung. Great philosophers and writers?such as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Pythagoras, Lao-tze, Chang-tze, and Plotinus?all believed in reincarnation. Christian theologians?including St. Augustine, St. Clement, Origen, Basilides, Christian apologist Tatian, Valentinus, the manes, St. Jerome, Porphyry, St. Pamphilius, Iamblichus, Athenagoras, and St. Gregory?are just a few of the legions who believed in reincarnation. The Nag-Hammadi scrolls indicate that Jesus was either an Essene, a student of the Essenes, or at least associated very closely with this sect (which was said to have believed in reincarnation) during the ?lost? or ?silent? years of his life between the ages of 12 and 30. All this evidence supports the argument for reincarnation, rather than against it. If you base your case on logic, the existence of reincarnation prevails. Reincarnation furnishes us with very logical explanations for the inequities of life. Why is one person born poor, and another rich? Why does one person die young as opposed to another who lives a long life? Why is one person crippled, and another whole? I could go on and on. The existence of reincarnation offers a reason for these injustices because it presents the case that there?s more than one life to live. If God is all-loving and all merciful (the basic teachings of Jesus Christ), then why does evil exist? Negativity can?t survive when you know through God?s loving and merciful nature, He allows you to incarnate more than once to perfect your soul. You can then experience a life in which you?re rich, poor, crippled, whole, young, or old. Logically, reincarnation doesn?t detract from the teachings of Jesus; it augments them. God doesn?t care how long it takes or how many lives you must live to perfect. He only wants you to achieve the ultimate goal?the perfection of your own soul. If the argument against the existence of reincarnation is based on religion, then the nonbelievers are not well informed. All of the Eastern religions support reincarnation, and Western religions are changing their views rapidly. Nowadays, most Christians either believe in reincarnation or tolerate it because in no way does it detract from their teachings. In fact, it actually broadens them. If you research the early Christian church, you?ll find that almost all of the references to reincarnation in the Bible were expunged by the fourth century. This was an act of humankind, not God; regardless of this attempt to eradicate reincarnation, almost every Christian Gnostic sect still believed in it. These sects, in turn, were literally ?wiped out? by the early Church. The history of the Christian Church is filled with murder, bloodshed, and torture. (The Holy Inquisition is a prime example.) The early Christians, who believed in reincarnation, were much more loving and understanding than the ?warlike? Church rulers of the Middle Ages. Despite many of the arguments disputing its existence, reincarnation seems to have the upper hand?truth always surfaces in the end. If skeptics argue with you, ask them to research reincarnation and try to prove it doesn?t exist. They can investigate it endlessly, but they won?t find any true evidence against it. It won?t matter, though, because in their search, they?ll find tomes of overwhelming validation that it is, in fact, truth. Do we incarnate in the opposite sex? Each soul is innately created male or female. You all have a gender. When you incarnate, you generally manifest the same sexual gender that you are. Almost every soul, however chooses one or two lives in the opposite sex to help round off the totality of their experience. Many times an incarnation in the opposite sex can create confusion. This is one of the leading causes of homosexuality. Imagine, if you can, that you have the mind, emotions, and thoughts of a female, yet you have the body of a male. This can be somewhat traumatic and stressful. This is also true in the opposite case when a male incarnates in a female body. Not every entity who incarnates in the opposite sex necessarily becomes a homosexual. Those who don?t still lead lives that can confuse their soul. For example, a woman who has tremendous drive and ambition could possibly be a male in a female body, or a man who is more effeminate in nature could very well be a female in a male body. Every situation has been experienced by most of us, but due to the stress and confusion, we usually limit our incarnations in the opposite sex. How many lives do we live? There is no specific number of lives that we live. Most of choose to live between 20 and 35 lives. Nevertheless, an entity can still reach their chosen level of perfection in only a few lives. Some entities choose to live more than 35 lives, usually to carry out special missions to help other entities. We don?t live thousands of lives, as some Eastern philosophies teach. The most incarnations that I?ve ever heard an entity take is 109, but it?s actually very rare for an entity to approach 70 or 80 lives. As I stated earlier, some entities never incarnate, but this is very unusual. Everyone incarnates at one time or another. Entities who choose to live only a few lives usually elect very challenging ones because they have to pack all their experiences into fewer reincarnations. This doesn?t necessarily mean that these entities are more evolved; they?ve just chosen to fulfill their themes more quickly. The term old soul is often misused. It should only refer to an entity who has lived more lives than most. It has nothing to do with the time an entity was created, especially since, according to God, all entities were created at the same time. Regardless of the number of incarnations, the most significant achievement for us is the evolvement of the soul. We can be just as evolved as anyone else whether we?ve lived 20 lives or 80. It?s not the number of lives we live that?s important; it?s what we accomplish in them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part IV PLANNING AN INCARNATION What kind of planning is required before we incarnate? All entities engage in a thorough and effective planning procedure before they incarnate. No incarnation is easy?if for no other reason than crossing over into a plane of existence that runs rampant with negativity. Consequently, every entity must undergo a lengthy process in order to fully research their next incarnation. This prepares them for the ordeal ahead and helps them achieve, with the utmost success, their own perfection and progression. When an entity decides to incarnate, they must first appear before the main Council. The Council consists of learned souls who act as a governing body for the Other Side. The entity outlines what they hope to accomplish and how they plan to do it; and the Council, in turn, analyzes this plan and points out anything that was overlooked. Upon approval, the entity then advances to a predetermined orientation center to receive more counseling from the master teachers. Here, the preparation truly begins?a long, tedious, and hardworking ordeal?for the incarnation must be reviewed repeatedly to cover all of the details and ensure that the goal is achieved. Individual entities might require several masters who help them plan for the incarnation. While at the Orientation Center, plans for incarnation are fine-tuned to the smallest detail so that the entity fully understands their task. Upon completion of this process, which may take years in your timetable, the entity chooses the vehicle in which to incarnate and enters the next life through what you call the ?birth process.? To help you fully understand the complete procedure, I?ll now explain in more detail each step that an entity takes prior to an incarnation. Knowledge of the Soul Every entity has knowledge created innately within them. Part of this wisdom propels them to experience for their Creator, God. From the beginning of their individuality, each entity knows what they want to perfect, what their theme is, and the approximate number of lives it takes to obtain their own perfection level. The innate knowledge within each entity drives them to incarnate. It?s almost like a little bell that rings inside them and announces: ?It?s time to incarnate.? When the soul receives this signal, they start to initiate plans for an incarnation. One of the first things an entity does is review their past history, not only their prior incarnations, but their entire existence from initial creation. This allows them to confirm their progress in the evolvement of the soul. Much of this evaluation is accomplished purely through their own memory, since it?s completely open when they?re on the Other Side. They also use other aids, such as scanning machines, to examining the scrolls of their past incarnations, and to explore the general history of the Earth and other planets where reincarnation is prevalent. In the beginning of creation, all entities extensively scanned the future of all planets. When reincarnation originated, entities would survey the various eras of these planets that could possibly contain a fitting scenario for their particular perfection and theme. On Earth, some of these time periods included: the age of Atlantis, the Neanderthal age, the Golden Ages of various civilizations, the Dark Ages, the Renaissance, and Atomic age; and each could offer various challenges and opportunities to perfect the soul. Most entities choose to incarnate in ?tumultuous times,? as opposed to ?quiet times,? because they can perfect faster in a more negative environment. To start, they?d sit in large forums and scan various time periods on a massive information board. This data network would pause at each major epoch and highlight various opportunities for incarnations?delivering details on geographical locations, parentage, ethnic and racial backgrounds, political and economic facts, social views, and much more. From here, they?d take this information and evaluate it for their own needs. For some of the more popular eras, they?d even ?bid? for various incarnation openings. Upon reviewing the past and exploring the opportunities they need to upgrade their present level, they can now present their plans to the Council. The Council The Council is like a governing body for the Other Side. Their responsibilities include ?approving? applications from entities who wish to incarnate. This is more of a loving and caring formality that is observed due to the combined wisdom of the elders that preside on the Council. An entity doesn?t necessarily need approval to incarnate, and a few have done so without it. Most entities, however seek the Councils wisdom to help plan their incarnation because the elders? knowledge is vast, and they?re very highly evolved entities. It?s like the old saying: ?Two heads are better than one.? The Council?s expertise and knowledge combined with an entity?s knowledge promise a more successful incarnation. The Council inspects the submitted plan in great detail. Their combined knowledge will often reveal problem areas that an entity didn?t considered fully. They can also warn an entity of conceivable pitfalls, areas of concern, possible failures, events that might change the total complexion of the plan, and the complexities of having a free will. In disclosing these suggestions, the Council is very nurturing. Their wisdom encourages an entity to revise their plans and consider all of the contingencies. Many times, the Council will warn an entity about a particular incarnation. The entity is lectured extensively, cautioned about entered a life that is too horrendous, or is too much to handle. They might propose taking two or three lives to accomplish what they?ve planned for just one. Some entities won?t listen and will argue with the Council, thinking they?re justified. The elders then take a passive stand, because an entity?s free will allows them to incarnate regardless of what the Council recommends. I can truly say, however, that I?ve never seen the elders misjudge any plans for an incarnation, but I?ve noticed many entities who make disastrous mistakes. Most entities respect and listen to the Council?s advice, and generally wait for their ultimate approval of the reincarnation plans. Once this is obtained, entities can proceed to the Orientation Center that best serves their needs. Here, they meet the master teachers and review the plan approved by the Council. This can be a time-consuming process, as the master teachers must familiarize themselves with every detail of what an entity wants to accomplish. An entity can spend years in the Orientation Center preparing for life. Once the entity and master teachers have studied every aspect of the planned incarnation, they can being to search?with the aid of a computer-like apparatus?for the right parents, the right body, the right geographical location, the right job, any defects they?re going to have, the right childhood, when they?re going to die, and so on. Do they want to be rich or poor? Do they want a parent who will be a matriarch or a patriarch? Do they want parents who will be loving, divorced, or killed? Do they want brothers and sisters? How many? Do they want to marry? How many times? What kind of marriage partner do they seek? Do they want to be widowed or divorced? How many children do they want? What sex and disposition do they want for their children? How many grandchildren would they like? How many jobs would they like to pursue? How much schooling or education do they need? What are their choices for friends, relationships, traumas to be incurred, or negativity to endure? Will they be religious? Nonreligious? Which religion will they choose? Will they embrace many religions? The choices are many, and every detail is reviewed, debated and discussed. After finalizing the basic plan, the entity and master teachers begin to view the major events of this incarnation on a device we call ?the scanner? (similar to a closed-circuit television). They actually observe the major events and choices they?ve planned, gauge their reactions, and analyze their emotional response. The entity repeats this state over and over again, incorporating possible changes due to choices exercised by other people that they may encounter. For example, an entity might look at a particular event in 100 different ways to ensure that another person?s actions won?t hinder their goal. So, not only is their original plan scrutinized, but alternate scenarios are also rehearsed in case there was any deviation from their original path. At this juncture, an entity now travels down through a tunnel and enters a vehicle?their mother?in the planned incarnation. It?s here, and up until the time they reach the age of four, that they have the opportunity to exit. This four-year period allows their soul to acclimate to the negative plane of Earth. If they experience a drastic change from their expectations or they simply can?t acclimate, then they?ll exit. This is why so many mothers have miscarriages and why children die so young. The soul realizes that circumstances won?t allow their plan to succeed, so they exit back Home. In scanning an incarnation, there are millions of trails that a person could follow, but there?s always the ?blue track??the most favorable path for accomplishing their goals. Other roads extend in many different directions, but they usually all lead back to the main blue track. If, for some reason, an entity veers off of the blue track, it may be due to some type of derangement, which can make an entity feel like they?re under extreme stress and pressure. This can lead to destructive behavior such as alcoholism, drug abuse, or in extreme cases, suicide. All of these possibilities are covered by the master teachers at the Orientation Center. During the planning process, an entity is rigorously instructed to handle stress and anxiety. In most cases, they survive, but they won?t remain on the blue track. This is the primary reason for the extensive planning, constant review, and programming of the subconscious mind: to survive the incarnation and accomplish everything in plan. When all of the planning, counseling, and programming is finished, the entity then incarnates. The entire plan for the incarnation is in the entity?s subconscious mind, and the spirit guides watch over them as they live their lives. How do we find the people and the situations we need for our perfection? The population and diversity of the lifestyles on Earth allows for almost any situation you might want to choose for your perfection. You can incarnate into the most primitive or the most advanced cultures. You can be an executive in a New York City skyscraper or a pygmy in Africa. Whatever situation you desire, there?s a place that fits your reincarnation plan fully. What if several entities choose the same parent at the same time? This is a very rare occurrence, but it can happen. When it does, the Council will review all plans submitted for the same incarnation scenario. Then they?ll make a decision based on merit, and award the situation to the entity who will garner the most from the incarnation. There are no hard feelings or recriminations, as all entities know that the Council is doing its best fro all involved. Every effort is then made to find a similar situation for the other entities. Do we make contracts with other people before an incarnation? Most incarnations are planned years in advance so that all entities involved are subconsciously aware of the major events in their lives. When an entity enters into an incarnation, a huge chain of lives is linked together, and each one is aware of the others. For example, when you plan a life, the entities you?ve chosen as parents haven?t incarnated, yet you meet them on my side and go over all of your plans as well as theirs, thus creating a ?contract to incarnate together.? You do this with all of the major entities who will influence your planned incarnation. It?s not unusual for an entity to meet with several generations of a family, making sure that the scenario planned will evolve and exist by the time the incarnation takes place. In cases where less time is devoted to planning an incarnation, entities know what to expect, even though they haven?t conferred with everyone involve. For example, you could incarnate without knowing exactly who will incarnate as your son. But you know that this entity will fit into your overall plan that incorporates what your son will be like. This happens infrequently, but it?s not unusual. Perhaps the most significant ?contract? that you make before an incarnation is with your spirit guide. While on the Other Side, you choose a friend or someone you respect and have confidence in to become your spirit guide. This is a serious and significant choice because the spirit guide must know all of your plans and try to guide you through the events so that you accomplish everything planned. If, for some reason, you go ?off track? in life, they try to bring you back or at least help you fulfill most of what you want to accomplish. They observe all of your actions and help you evaluate your life when you pas over to my side. The devotion and efforts of a spirit guide are happy provided, as they all wish to help everyone achieve their perfection. What is the birth process like? Before an entity incarnates, they enter into what we call the ?Hall of Wisdom.? This is a very beautiful building, constructed like the Greek Parthenon, with pink marble everywhere. Here, an entity composes themselves for the ordeal of life. They meditate and examine their planned life once again with the master teachers. You must realize that most entities who incarnate don?t really like to do so, because it means leaving the positive reality and moving into a plane of negativity where they lose their conscious memory of Home. It?s not a pleasant experience. Upon completion of any last-minute preparations in the Hall of Wisdom, we enter into a vaporlike tunnel?a bridge between the two dimensions?the Earth plane and the Other Side. Whether entering into a new body or leaving an old body after physical death, we use this passageway to transcend from one dimension to another. The tunnel is like a vortex or a void, which is sometimes quite dark but has a light at the end of it. When we enter, we feel a wind rushing by us?not a powerful wind?but a gentle, brisk breeze. As we move through the tunnel and into a new body, conscious memory starts to fade. Many of us try to keep our thoughts intact, but none of us have been successful. This passageway can be somewhat frightening, although the master teachers try to fully prepare us for the experience. Since thoughts are things, and we can transport ourselves with thought, we?ve already located the vehicle (Body of the mother) into which we?ll incarnate. As we move through the tunnel, we being in a very solid state and then, as we move farther along, we become very etheric, almost like a ?cloud mass.? (It should be noted here that entities on the Other Side are more solid than human beings because they?re the true reality.) At this point, like all entities, we enter the mother?s body through the pituitary gland and then move into the fetus. The entire process takes no longer than two and a half minutes. Many women have actually sensed the entering of the soul (who will become their child) into their body. They experience great emotion that is indescribable, and they even shed tears of joy as a result of this euphoric sense. The sensation is so brief, however, that most women think it?s a hormonal balance or just a funny, fluttering feeling. But it?s actually the soul entering the body and the subconscious mind acknowledging the entrance. Most entities enter the mother?s womb anywhere from four to eight months into pregnancy. The more experienced entities usually incarnate during the seventh or eighth month because waiting in the womb can be quite boring. Even though we lose most of our conscious memory in the birth process, our subconscious is functioning fully and completely. Entities waiting in the womb are much more astute than you can imagine. They readily absorb what?s going on around the mother, so be careful what you say around babies, whether they?re newborn or still in the womb. One of the most severe traumas we can experience is the birth process. We begin in a warm, protected, and positive plane of existence (the Other Side), and proceed into a cramped space (the womb). From there, we?re thrust into the world with its bright lights and loud noises, and there are rough hands pulling us into a cold and heavy atmosphere. Our small body feels like we?re encased in lead. The physical body is the hardest thing to adapt to while incarnate. It?s so much heavier in comparison to the body we have on the Other Side. The vibrational level of the Earth plane is also slower and more ponderous, so the gravity makes us feel like we?re covered with cement. The birth process undoubtedly validates the fact that we?re truly in a negative plane of existence. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part V DO NOT JUDGE The important thing to remember about the premise of reincarnation is not so much its intricacies, but its philosophy and reason for being. God wanted all creations to experience knowledge for Him. Wisdom encompasses both the positive and negative. Since God is all-loving and all-merciful, He created a reality of nothing but positive energy (the Other Side), in which all of His creations could reside for eternity. To help His creations learn about the negative side of experience, the Earth plane and others like it were created. This temporary plane of existence allows you to experience the negative, but only for a very short time. Recognizing the effect of negativity on the soul, and realizing that the tremendously large body of experience couldn?t be accomplished all at once, God instituted reincarnation. Since His creations must have this wisdom for the perfection of the soul, reincarnation was implemented. However, if you could endure small does of negativity in a positive environment with ?rest periods? in between, it would be much less traumatic. It?s not easy to survive in a negative environment and it?s tough to be subjected to the pain that transpires on the Earth Plane. To help you understand more fully that your world has a Divine plan, know this: The Earth is meant to be negative and will always remain negative until God disposes of it. It?s the school for your soul?to learn from and experience negativity. It may be hard for some of you to accept the fact that the Earth plane will always be negative. You try to foster goodness in the world. You try to end suffering. You try to stop the killing of other human beings. Certainly, you do all of this. You?d be remiss in your duty to God if you didn?t. You must remember, however, that it?s done out of necessity. If negativity didn?t exist, what would you fight against? You learn about yourself when you fight against an injustice. You view it, attack it, try to suppress it, and experience it so that you know all of its facets, all of its ways, and all of its effects. In fighting negativity, you must be careful not to create more of it. You can?t rid the Earth of the negative?it?s meant to be here?but you can make your own island of Light and find others who profess the same belief. If you too become zealous in your fight against the negative, you can ultimately perpetuate it. Do not judge! This should be your battle cry. Jesus Christ said it when the crowd wanted to stone Mary Magdalene. You can only judge yourself. No one else has the right to do so. How can anyone know the reason behind an action without recognizing the motive for it? How can anyone discern the true motive without the knowledge of the soul who committed the act? No incarnate person can perceive these things. Only entities on the Other Side can know?and only because of the Records. The subconscious mind of the entity committing the act is aware of the reason, and the only other Being who knows God. If a person commits an atrocity, you can judge the act? but not the soul who committed the act . You judge and punish negative actions so that you have some control and order in society. However, the soul of an entity can?t be judged. Let?s say that an entity wants to experience the act of murder. While on the Other Side, they make a ?contract? with another person, who wants to experience jail, to become their murderer. Both entities enter, and the murder is committed in its own chosen time. Society judges the entity who committed the murder and sends them to prison. Most people would judge them as a lost soul who is beyond redemption. Society did what it had to do to maintain order. The others who judged the soul as unsalvageable would be wrong. Erroneous judging perpetuates negativity. So much bigotry and hatred have been created by prejudging other cultures and ethnic groups. So many atrocities have been committed in the name of God to save the ?heathen.? So many cultures have been destroyed by those who think they know more. When will it end? It will end when you stop trying to be God on Earth and refrain from judging others. You must live your life as best as you can. You?re going to make mistakes, but you?ll learn from them. If you can maintain a pure motive in all of your thoughts and actions, then you?ll know within your own soul that you?re doing the right thing. Be a leader, not a follower. Don?t let people influence your to prejudge others. Keep an open mind and heart, and embrace all souls as much as you possibly can. Simplify life by realizing that you?re experiencing for God. Do all of this and your soul will shine like a beacon for others to follow. Do all of this, and you?ll fulfill your destiny and stand proudly before God when you return Home. --------------------
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bumski cattle russler Registered: 01/27/03 Posts: 83 Last seen: 19 years, 2 months |
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Quote: Wait, so let me get this straight. Lets say I get real kicks outta lighting farts, like it genuinely brings me happiness. I die, i go to the other side, all the sudden I dont have an asshole anymore. If we were created in the image of the Creator, Where did it go/come from? haha i get a kick outta myself I came to this thread unaware of the massive scale of it, that was an awful long read. But however it does sway for a few minutes my suicidal depression, so all the better :cringing, teeth grinding "smile": -------------------- Cheech: Hey man, the house is bein' raided man! opsCays! You hear me man? get-outski! Edited by bumski (11/25/03 06:37 PM)
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Blastrid e l e m e n t al Registered: 01/14/02 Posts: 3,323 Loc: The Desert Last seen: 16 years, 10 months |
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hm when I have a spare lazy day, I'll read it all.
I Promise! -------------------- Blas'?trid (bl?s tr?d) n. 3rd generation derivitave of a combination of 'bastard' and 'blasted'. Used as both an insult or an expletive. ex. Blastrid! Stereopattern <--My music.
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Shroomism Space Travellin Registered: 02/13/00 Posts: 66,015 Loc: 9th Dimension |
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Excellent stuff
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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that was hella long, but a good read.
hey is there any drug use on the other side. do you have mushies there?? hehe -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Wow...very fascinating read, I read the whole the thread and enjoyed readin it btw, thats the longest post i've ever seen if you actually ran out of space...but yea...really interesting stuff you got there...I do believe the basic premise of it all, so to have my belief so articulately explained and with great detail like that is fuckin awesome.
I found the following particularly interesing, especially the ones I highlighted in bold: Quote: hmm... -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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medicinebag Hunting Registered: 11/15/03 Posts: 344 Loc: The land of The |
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Ha, This is just another affirmation that we are indeed, LIVING IN HELL> I know hell when I see it. Later.
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medicinebag Hunting Registered: 11/15/03 Posts: 344 Loc: The land of The |
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I think that everyone on the Other Side is perma-trippin. Notice about how Francine states all of the experiences there, albeit possitive, are 100 times felt more. The self transportation, being in more than one place at a time, beuty beyond imagination, sounds like a trip that don't end to me. Anyway else think so?
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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heheh.. well then that would answer Kaiowas's question "got any mushies over there?"...We dont need em on the other side! Sounds like Heaven to me alright
But seriously you bring up something interesting to think on...maybe when we trip on shrooms, its like, activating our soul's memories or activating underlying abilities that only surface when our minds are being fucked with Hallucinogenics, seeing colors and such the way we would, on the "Other Side"....hmmm -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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Wow, when he said gnostic, he wasn't kidding! Truth be told I skimmed over parts of that. I think that's understandable. However, being as my current belief system's a LOT more postitive than that, I think Francine would rather I stay Taoist.
Neat stuff, though... -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Evidently there wasn't enough space to hold all of what I spent hours typing so none of you would have to buy the book...so heres the second part:
It is very "spiritual" to steal another's copyrighted work. Guess you have learned your lessons well my moral brother.
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Lord_of_Fungus The AlmightyLord Registered: 02/05/02 Posts: 167 |
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To those who read this all, thank you for taking the time to do so and I hope you have enjoyed it as much as I have.. although I may have tunnel carpal syndrome now after typing all that, it was indeed worthwhile for me You can buy the actual book which all of this is from here.
Oh, and if yall don't hear from me, it may be because I'm behind bars due to a certain someone reporting me to the Copyright's police for committing the immoral act of sharing spiritual insights and views from books and stuff like that. Yall mail me some ciggarettes at least, mmk? --------------------
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medicinebag Hunting Registered: 11/15/03 Posts: 344 Loc: The land of The |
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So far, all the "abilities" Francine states, that are easy to accomplish, would be considered "witch-craft" over here. What happens to a Republican Personality when they realize they were really a Liberatarian?
Hey, Lord of Fungus, Would you list the 45 life themes? Thanks. Later.
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: I think it is more spiritual to draw from many waters and make the ideas your own, with your own thoughts and experiences, and then present the ideas as you know them. That's just me, though. Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Your "clever" reply notwithstanding, how would you like your creative efforts disemminated against your will? You see no irony in showing disrespect to Ms. Browne and in indulging in unethical behaviour while positing higher truths?
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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How is this unethical behavior? Explain
-------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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You seriously do not understand how theft is unethical?
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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So, if I were to come across something I read in a book, and loved it, loved the inspiration that it gave me so much, that I decided to share it with everybody I can...you would call that THEFT?
Oh boy, I guess all the people here who've quoted from books, and such sources are all thieves! Might as well deem all the religious bible-thumping folks who live by book quoting verses from this and that and hell, even priests and reverends, all thieves! lol gimme a break...this guy even credited the whole thing to Ms Browne in the first place... I guarantee you, Sylvia Browne, whom I'm actually quite familiar with, would in fact, praise Lord of Fungus, for spreading her words of higher truth to other people... As a matter of fact, I'm gonna look up her website, (if she has one) and see if I can actually write to her about this, and see what she thinks about it -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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So, if I were to come across something I read in a book, and loved it, loved the inspiration that it gave me so much, that I decided to share it with everybody I can...you would call that THEFT?
If I loved your car so much that I decided to share it with my friends without your permission would you call it theft? Oh boy, I guess all the people here who've quoted from books, and such sources are all thieves! A quote is acceptable; entire chapters are not. lol gimme a break... Why? What else do you take that you justify? this guy even credited the whole thing to Ms Browne in the first place... When I share your car with my friends, I will give you credit for your good taste in wheels. That will make you feel much better about it's being gone. He said: "I spent hours typing so none of you would have to buy the book." I am sure she is glad to lose sales to such a high-minded person. I guarantee you, Sylvia Browne, whom I'm actually quite familiar with, would in fact, praise Lord of Fungus, for spreading her words of higher truth to other people... You can guarantee nothing. Sylvia writes books to make money from her efforts; not to have her work given away. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna look up her website, (if she has one) and see if I can actually write to her about this, and see what she thinks about it I will wager $$$ ahead of time that she will NOT appreciate it.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Simple and straightforward:
In order for a book to go online, either 1. the copyright holder (usually the author) has to give permission, or 2. the book needs to be in the public domain (i.e. copyright on the material has expired), or 3. there must be a special legal exemption allowing whoever puts the book online to do so without permission of the copyright holder. (This last case is quite rare; in the US, it may apply to libraries and archives with respect to some out-of-print books from 1923 through 1927.)
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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If I loved your car so much that I decided to share it with my friends without your permission would you call it theft?
You're comparing apples and oranges here. Not at all Skorp, you tried to rationalize theft because you "loved the item". Motivation is irrelevant of the act. So if I bought a book, and read it all, and liked it so gosh darn much, that I gave it to my friends, to share the knowledge of it all, and so on, that wouldn't be any different from what Lord of Fungus did? That would be "unacceptable"? Please read up on copyyright law so that I don't have to asnwer evry one of your questions. Loaning a book is fine. When I share your car with my friends, I will give you credit for your good taste in wheels. That will make you feel much better about it's being gone. Again, apples and oranges. Once again your argument lacks merit. You brought up the point of giving credit which is only relevant in printing single line quotes not entire chapters. Lemme ask you; ARE you familiar with Sylvia Browne? Are you a fan of hers? Do you read all her books? Do you watch her regularly on Montel Williams, or on Larry King Live, Unsolved Mysteries, and so many more of the media-forms which she's been profiled in? Do you go to her lectures? Do you have phone sessions or readings in person by her? Are you deeply familiar with her? More irrelevant blather. Prior permission is what is required no matter how you dance around it. Whether or not you can read the author's mind has zero bearing. I think the obvious answer is, No, because if you WERE, you would know for sure, that she would, in fact commend someone for sharing her book that she knows would help so many people in life, which is the primary REASON why she wrote her books in the first place, not just cuz she can get some mo' bling bling y0! If she was all about money in the first place, she wouldnt be donating the majority of her money to worthy causes, (which you would know if you read her books), she COULD be living large and all super-starish, but the fact is, she only makes about 30k-40k a year, the rest of her money goes to the Society of Novus Spiritus Organization which she founded. So, the bottom line is, does that sound like someone who's gonna bitch about a fan of hers sharing one of her many many many books to his/her friends, family, pets? Whether or not she "bitches" is once again irrelevant as to the fact that the law was viloated. This simple fact seem beyond your grasp. Apparently it is impossible for you to either stay on track or to think logically. I guarantee you, Sylvia Browne, whom I'm actually quite familiar with, would in fact, praise Lord of Fungus, for spreading her words of higher truth to other people... You can guarantee nothing. Sylvia writes books to make money from her efforts; not to have her work given away. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna look up her website, (if she has one) and see if I can actually write to her about this, and see what she thinks about it I will wager $$$ ahead of time that she will NOT appreciate it. Apparently he loved this book so deeply... Motivation is once again, irrelevant. that he actually spent days typing up the whole entire book, and showed it to the message board, which I thank him for, as I'm sure so many people have benefited and will continue to benefit from Sylvia's words of higher truth, be it from her fans spreading her words, or from finding it on their own. I am sure that she hopes are her books are illegally reproduced by, if not unethical, then those ignorant of the basic copyright laws which I clearly displayed. She would probably love to see her book sales greatly diminished. The confliction that rised afterwards though, was that one of the message board members claimed that the whole act was highly immoral and unethical, deeming it as "Theft". I felt outraged by this particular reaction, Outrage at someone knowledgeable of basic copyright law? I see the "higher teachings" have had a positive effect on your emotional control. So, my inquiry to you, is I wanted to know, What Sylvia herself, would have to say about this? If she believed as you do she would have made the books in the public domain. If she believed as you do she would have made the books in the public domain. If she believed as you do she would have made the books in the public domain. This is simple and straightforward. So, how much money you wanna wager? I will wager that this is in clear violation of copyright laws inasmuch as the poster did Not have prior permission. END OF STORY no matter how much you wiggle.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Okay, so *technically* and "Lawfully", Lord of Fungus's actions may be "unethical". Sure, you can go ahead and rant all you want about that, however valid it may be....
But you cannot judge with 100% conviction that Lord of Fungus's actions, were spiritually "unethical". Don't get Spiritual ethics and the US Government?s ethics mixed up and confused here. -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Keep dancing.
I did a post a few months ago from a Buddhist perspective that clearly explains what is and what is not theft.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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So only Buddhists can say what is theft and what isnt? C'mon...a wee bit narrow-minded isnt it?
Do I detect a cold bitter tone btw? c'mon Swamster..no hard feelings here buddy, it's fun to argue isnt it? Cheers mate. -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Alan Stone Corpus Registered: 11/23/02 Posts: 986 Loc: Ten feet up Last seen: 19 years, 5 months |
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From my poiny of view, copying the text is illegal, but not unethical, as such, because it is illogical to assume that one can copyright an idea. Seeing as two people can have the same idea, they can hold the same spiritual views.
The application of an idea can be copyrighted or patented, to allow for the first person to think of it to reap the financial benefits. However, there are clear cases when a patent is unethical, because the application thought of could benefit a lot of people. In any case, 'stealing' a person's text can't be considered universally unethical. Concerning copyrights, let's draw a parallel to music. In medieval times, copying music, or covering an existing piece wasn't considered theft, it was a way of honouring the original performer/composer. Today, capitalism rules our minds, and we feel everything, even original thought, can be owned. The way you look at it is in part dependant on the times you live in. A copyright in these times is just another method of charging money for an idea. If this Sylvia Browne is truly spiritual, and considers her message to hold Truth, she would indeed not mind if her work was copied, because if you feel you have an important message to spread, you don't charge people to hear about it. Personally, I think copying entire chapters is a bit over the top, but I can hardly say it's universally unethical. -------------------- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
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Lord_of_Fungus The AlmightyLord Registered: 02/05/02 Posts: 167 |
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I read this book, and it had such a deep impact on me as well as other books by Sylvia regarding the nature of life, death, and afterlife...that I felt so driven and compelled to share this in hopes that it brings others the happiness that it did for me, in hopes that it will make at least one life breathe easier, to help at least one other person see life in a new light and prevent them from spiraling down a path of negativity and darkness. And some may wonder, "well, why didn't you just recommend the book?" Heh, if I made one lil post saying how much I recommend this book and provided the link, I very sincerely doubt many people would've actually bought it. I'm far more positive that far more people would've read it if it were at hand for them to read, so therefore I sacrificed my own time and energy into typing up a 148 pg long book, which some of I left out (meditation and relaxation techniques by Francine, which I may post later), so that I could offer at least one other person the same possibility of having the same positive impact from this book that I know not only me, but so many other's have recieved from this. I feel much better knowing that I shared the knowledge that brought me this happiness to others, and for all I know, I might've prevented someone from committing suicide with what I posted from the book, (if you read it all, you'd know what I'm talking about). So to judge my actions immoral, unethical, unspiritual, is just...beyond me.
I'm sorry you feel the need to be Mr.-Technical-Law-Prick and assert your negative intellect regardless of what good intentions are at hand. --------------------
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: It is like I suggested. An idea is formless, it has no boundaries. However, while an idea has a gift of flow, it also tends to take form in our own mind. If an idea doesn't flow in your head and take on your personal fingerprint, if you don't treat the idea as your thought, and it doesn't sink in and connect to all of these other thoughts, than the new idea can't really be claimed by you, let alone it being almost pointless to work like that. There is nothing wrong about sharing an idea with a few people that you wish to share it with. This is why the movie companies don't hunt everyone down that invites a few friends over that get baked and watch the movie that only one of them paid for. The difference here is that the texts were presented in basically their entirety. While I don't necessarily disagree with someone taking so much time to share ideas with people that they think will be interested in them, it just makes me wonder if they took the time to digest the material themselves. *shrugs* Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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It'd say Alan Stone hit the nail on the head.
And I think the apples and oranges Skorp was refering to were intellectual property laws vs. material property laws. Maybe I'm wrong. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Yes, basically, that's what I was referring to, ty
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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I'm sorry you feel the need to be Mr.-Technical-Law-Prick and assert your negative intellect
You are way too funny! I am a "prick" now because you don't like to face the truth. Is name-calling what you have learned from the higher "teachings"? Disrespect for another's property is holy now? My legal point is hardly technical, it is quite broad and specific. BTW, intellect is neither negative nor positive it is a quality. Can someone have negative blue eyes?
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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And I think the apples and oranges Skorp was refering to were intellectual property laws vs. material property laws. Maybe I'm wrong.
You are. Stealing someone's painting (a mere arrangement of pre-existing colors and subject matter) is no different than stealing an arrangement of words.
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Lord_of_Fungus The AlmightyLord Registered: 02/05/02 Posts: 167 |
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I'm not too surprised that's the only part of my post you took out to debate further with
The word STEAL in this case is just bullshit. Unless like I said, you want to get all technical about copyright laws and rules and regulations, then sure, go ahead and scream all you want about me "stealing" this and that. Like the supporters of this thread are saying, spiritual morality and ethics is one thing. U.S. Gov't illegalities and laws and rules are one thing. Don't get em mixed up. You used the word Spiritual and Moral in your first post, insinuating that you had in mind some type of spiritually moral and ethic violation in mind, and then you shifted your position to enforcing the strict copyright violations, saying that according to such and such, I was "stealing". You went from one point of defense, to another...sounds like backpeddling to me. Read Alan Stone's post, he said it all. I bought the book, read it, loved it, shared it. Simple as that. So for someone to come outta the blue and deem me a thief for doing that, isn't negative? Intellect can be negative if you only use it to put down someone's intentions, regardless of whether your belief has law and truth on it's side or not. Are you arguing because you actually truly feel upset by my "lawful infringement?" Because I violated copyright laws? You're willing to ignore all what positive intents I had in sharing what I read from this book, and only focus on what ever you could possibly find that you think is bad about my post, be it copyright violation? Are you really arguing for that? Or are you just arguing to defend your ego, despite how it makes you look? Swami, lighten up. And Alan Stone really did hit the nail on the head. I'd like to see what you have to say about his post --------------------
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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go ahead and scream all you want about me "stealing" this and that.
No one is screaming. Do you frequently exaggerate and distort to defend your actions? Like the supporters of this thread are saying, spiritual morality and ethics is one thing. U.S. Gov't illegalities and laws and rules are one thing. Their opinion means nothing. Get the opinion of the author. I bought the book, read it, loved it, shared it. Simple as that. So if I enjoy a piece of jewelry that I steal, then it is OK? Your tangential emotions have no bearing. Intellect can be negative if you only use it to put down someone's intentions, regardless of whether your belief has law and truth on it's side or not. So now truth can be negative? Are you arguing because you actually truly feel upset by my "lawful infringement?" I don't get upset. Because I violated copyright laws? You're willing to ignore all what positive intents I had in sharing what I read from this book, and only focus on what ever you could possibly find that you think is bad about my post, be it copyright violation? Intent has nothing to do with it - that is lame rationalization. "I took the blueberry pie because I wanted to see the joy on my family's face on Thanksgiving." So what? Like the supporters of this thread are saying, spiritual morality and ethics is one thing. U.S. Gov't illegalities and laws and rules are one thing. Don't get em mixed up. I am not mixed up at all. If you steal a car because you need to quickly visit your sick mother, be sure to use the "mix-up" defense. So for someone to come outta the blue Huh? and deem me a thief for doing that, isn't negative? How is a fact negative? You took someone else's work without permission. Swami, lighten up. I am quite light, thank you.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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If you see someone trying out for Cheerleading, whos a lil overweight and not in good shape, but has the willpower and positive attitude to try out for it, are you gonna tell her "hey! you can't do that, you're a frickin fat ass! Get outta here!" ?
That's an example of how you can be negative, with "truth". And you tried to judge his actions spiritually immoral, with truths regarding copyright laws, c'mon get real here. He didnt hurt anybody, jesus christ, -insert major eyeroll here- yea, by sharing spiritual knowledge he gained happiness from, he broke a copyright law, oh my! Whatever shall we do?? We have a criminal on a hallucinogenic-drug message board in a spirituality and philosophy forum!! Gosh darn it! We should ban him!! He is detrimental to all of us! Oh dear! Somebody stop that bad bad man! -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Deiymiyan I AM Registered: 04/17/03 Posts: 656 Loc: Within the Realm Last seen: 15 years, 4 months |
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Did you really type all that ??
That sure must have taken a long time.. I've scanned most of it. Many of the concepts within the writing are very good. Some are a little fuzzy. I'm glad that you made the post though. For those who have read it, you may notice that the details of the entire text will be "fuzzy" in the end [unless you have a special gift of photographic memory].. What you will be left with is somewhat of a back-bone concept. The details you don't recall have been filtered by your own personal 'data filter'... And that is totally ok. In my opinion, this was a very uplifting post! Thanx for sharing LoF !
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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Yes, I agree, it's a lovely set of ideas. I think the sharing of the charming spiritual concepts on a spirituality and philosophy forum outweigh any of your stupid little laws. But just to make you happy I'll quote from something that is public domain.
The Tao that can be described in language is not the constant Tao; the name that can be given it is not its constant name. Nameless, it is the origin of the myriad things; named, it is the mother of the myriad things... These two emerge together but have different names; together, we refer to them as mystery: mystery of mystery and gateway to all subleties... Stepping aside keeps one's wholeness intact. Being empty makes one full. Being worn out keeps one new. In this way, the sage embraces the Tao and becomes a model for all the myriad things. He does not flaunt himself, therefore he shines. He does not insist that he is right, therefore his rightness is manifest. He avoids self-importance, thus long he endures. It is because he does not contend that none contend with him. Those are from two of my favorite chapter/peoms in the Tao te Ching. By the by, for those of you who were sharpening their witty sticks, yes, this does mean that I admit that I'm wrong. Don't worry, I am. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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...outweigh any of your stupid little laws
These are not my laws, but society-at-large. They were designed to protect intellectual property. If everyone violated them at will, most creative people would have no desire to put time and effort into developing such works.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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If you see someone trying out for Cheerleading, whos a lil overweight and not in good shape, but has the willpower and positive attitude to try out for it, are you gonna tell her "hey! you can't do that, you're a frickin fat ass! Get outta here!" ?
Apples and oranges my man. I do fitness training and coach racquetball and always encourage people to do their best and exceed self-imposed limitations. I do NOT however; encourage them to sneek into the health club under the rationalization that the club can "afford" it and it would not bankrupt them; for stealing a service is no different than stealing material goods. Edited by Swami (11/27/03 10:12 PM)
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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"...creative people would have no desire to put time and effort into developing such works."
Uh, you're not creative, are you? If you're truly creative, no money's necessary. It's like with you; no one's paying you to post, voicing your opinions in a creative way. You do it anyway. And you seem to spend a fair bit of time doing it, too. Don't tell me you'd like to establish property laws any all the stuff you've written. Editing for spelling. What can I say? -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong. Edited by Panoramix (11/27/03 08:37 PM)
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea, YAH! It's been established that LoF's actions were technically illegal. But lemme just ask you, personally, do you feel that the technical illegality, outweighs the good side of it all? Do you feel he should have not made the post at all? Do you think he did more evil than good? -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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"So only Buddhists can say what is theft and what isnt? C'mon...a wee bit narrow-minded isnt it?
Do I detect a cold bitter tone btw? c'mon Swamster..no hard feelings here buddy, it's fun to argue isnt it? Cheers mate." yes and here's a chapter that relates to this We cannot know the Tao itself, nor see its qualities direct, but only see by differentiation, that which it manifests. Thus, that which is seen as beautiful is beautiful compared with that which is seen as lacking beauty; an action considered skilled is so considered in comparison with another, which seems unskilled. That which a person knows he has is known to him by that which he does not have, and that which he considers difficult seems so because of that which he can do with ease. One thing seems long by comparison with that which is, comparatively, short. One thing is high because another thing is low; only when sound ceases is quietness known, and that which leads is seen to lead only by being followed. In comparison, the sage, in harmony with the Tao, needs no comparisons, and when he makes them, knows that comparisons are judgements, and just as relative to he who makes them, and to the situation, as they are to that on which the judgement has been made. Through his experience, the sage becomes aware that all things change, and that he who seems to lead, might also, in another situation, follow. So he does nothing; he neither leads nor follows. That which he does is neither big nor small; without intent, it is neither difficult, nor done with ease. His task completed, he then lets go of it; seeking no credit, he cannot be discredited. Thus, his teaching lasts for ever, and he is held in high esteem. to say what is theft and what isn't theft is just a judgement value based on compasisons of what we view as what is and what isn't. -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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Is that taken from the Tao Te Ching? What translation's that?
And that wasn't me who said that, right? 'Cause I don't remember saying that. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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I never said you said that. ahhh yes scrolling up i see that I did reply to your message, see my comp is pissed at me right now. hehe
the translation is by stan rosenthal. it's not the only one I've read of course, but it was the one that was first accessable to me at the time I was posting . I like the tao though I don't consider myself a total "follower" of its teachings. but yeah -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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I read a couple that are really good.
The Classic of the Way and Virtue: A New Translation of the Tao-te Ching of LaoZi as INTERPRETED by Wang Bi The Caps are mine. Interpolations or Interpretations are generally better than translations. And 'The New Lao Tzu: A Contemporary Tao Te Ching by Ray Grigg is more or less shit. A little bit I did like in the 'Question of Authorship' bit he tacked on the end of it... "With no solid evidence to support the existance of a Lao Tzu, his authenticity as a real historical character is extremely doubtful. The consequences of this doubt condenses into 3 questions. If there was no Lao Tzu, then who wrote the work attributed to him? If there was no author, then who collected, organized and edited the source material into its existing form?... All but the most fastidious scholars can dismiss the first question with relative ease. If the [Tao Te Ching](for some reason he calls it the Lao Tzu) was not written by Lao Tzu then it was written by someone else with a different name. That person unknown, but for convenience can be called Lao Tzu." -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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If you're truly creative, no money's necessary.
Oh really? Creative people do not need to have their basic needs met and be paid like non-creative people? Where do you come up with this? It's like with you; no one's paying you to post, voicing your opinions in a creative way. You do it anyway. This is voluntary and I know ahead of time that it is in the public domain. Don't tell me you'd like to establish property laws any all the stuff you've written. I am putting heart and soul into some books that I will publish some day and expect to be fairly renumerated for my efforts.
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Taquito Feed your head! Registered: 09/14/03 Posts: 38 Last seen: 11 years, 26 days |
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if you dont agree with the law, you have every right to break it
-------------------- "Me and a thousand ranking cops from all over America. Why not? Move confidently into their midst." "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." “I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” -Dr. Seuss
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monoamine umask 077(nonefo Registered: 09/06/02 Posts: 3,095 Loc: Jacksonville,FL Last seen: 19 years, 2 months |
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Quote: I'm gonna second what somebody else allready stated. Most people that create things are in it because it brings them some kind of joy. I don't think Einstein came up with Relativity because of monetary gain. And where should intellectual property end? Should I have to pay the estate of Issac Newton when I use his laws or Dali when I make a printed copy of one of his paintings? Even if intellectual property didn't exist,I still think a lot of people would fairly compensate people for their work. -------------------- People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything... Douglas Adams Edited by monoamine (11/27/03 10:28 PM)
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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Yeah, I agree, I seriously doubt you will fail to be fairly renumerated for your efforts. You seem like a pretty sharp kid
If you ask me, we should get rid of the managerial class (as it currently exists), nationalize the capital that would free up and put it towards renumerating individuals who make anything deemed to be art. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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medicinebag Hunting Registered: 11/15/03 Posts: 344 Loc: The land of The |
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Swami, Dude, You know it's not Copyright law/infringment, it's a relay of words. Maybe, if LoF was trying to make a buck on it, I'd see your point. I see how it works, I know your magick now. MuBahahahhahah. Lord of Fungus, Don't let Swami use his Magick on you . He knows how to use Words in such a way they will blind you. It's a trick/magick. A play, on words. Words you typed are now your words. You can't expect Swami to act any other way. I already copied them on Word, so now, their my words. My own little words. Thanks LoF. If what Sylvia Browne is stating through Francinine is Truth, How can Truth be copyrighted???? Edited by medicinebag (11/28/03 12:18 AM)
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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Whoa! Nice point at the end!
Hold on minute... Trippy, man. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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Jellric altered statesman Registered: 11/07/98 Posts: 2,261 Loc: non-local |
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Is that taken from the Tao Te Ching? What translation's that?
There are far better translations out there, but as kaiowas said, he grabbed that one for expediency. I have an awesome translation, but a friend has borrowed the book. When she returns it, I will probably scan it and post it. Well..sections of it as least. I don't want Swami on my ass, heh! Btw, I agree with Swami on the copyright aspect, but on the other hand I'm glad the material was posted. Does that make me a hypocrite? No, I was one already. -------------------- I am what Willis was talkin' bout.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Maybe, if LoF was trying to make a buck on it, I'd see your point.
It is not a point (an opinion), but a fact. This is about the tenth irrelevant argument. If I steal your car, but do not resell it then it is OK? There is no trick of words here. Theft is taking something (material, property, or service) not DIRECTLY OFFERED to you by the owner. Doesn't get any simpler. Once again, you "spiritual" types amaze me.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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I OWN the book, its MY property, and the material IN the book is TRUTH, and I directly OFFER it to my buddies.
Truth can't be copyrighted You still avoid certain questions. You have yet to retort to Alan Stone's Nail-hitting post, and you haven't responded to my question: Quote: -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Swami Eggshell Walker Registered: 01/18/00 Posts: 15,413 Loc: In the hen house |
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Truth can't be copyrighted.
Arrangements of words can indeed be copyrighted. You still avoid certain questions. You have yet to retort to Alan Stone's Nail-hitting post, and you haven't responded to my question: It was hardly "nail-hitting, but was yet one more rationalization for theft - and there are infinite ones for the clever thief. But lemme just ask you, personally, do you feel that the technical illegality, outweighs the good side of it all? Do you feel he should have not made the post at all? Do you think he did more evil than good? He did evil to the creator of the work. Hitler and other dictators have used the well-worn "the end justifies the means" argument. He was "doing good" for Germans and "not-so-good" for neighboring countries. This is a standard egocentric ploy. Someone who breaks into your house because his children are starving is "doing good" for his kids, though you may feel differently.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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You're still avoiding the question. You've already established that you think what he did was WRONG.
Give us a STRAIGHT answer, please. -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Panoramix Getafix Registered: 11/26/03 Posts: 634 Loc: Everywhere else Last seen: 12 years, 2 months |
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"Someone who breaks into your house because his children are starving
is 'doing good' for his kids, though you may feel differently." Fuck, I'd give the fellow who broke into my house because his children were starving a loaf of bread and a pint of beer for his trouble. And don't tell me how I feel, jackass. -------------------- Don't worry, I'm wrong.
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Lord_of_Fungus The AlmightyLord Registered: 02/05/02 Posts: 167 |
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It's like MedicineBag & Skorpivo said: *I* Bought the book, it's MY property, and *I* own it, and I *shared* it. If I want to share it, I can do so. If I were *selling* it, THEN it'd be another story.
Look at Kazaa for an example...thousands and THOUSANDS of songs which are all "copyrighted", are being SHARED. Not selled, not BOUGHT, not anything involving any of that. IT's SHARING. If this was WRONG, Kazaa wouldn't be running a business right now. --------------------
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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and another thing Swami, all those analogies you use, are actually fallacious.
?I do NOT however; encourage them to sneek into the health club under the rationalization that the club can "afford" it and it would not bankrupt them; for stealing a service is no different than stealing material goods.? You use the word ?sneak? and ?steal??. LoF did not STEAL anything, he PURCHASED an object, and thus it became HIS property. Therefore, he can DO what he WISHES to do with his OWN property?be it SHARING, as he did. If he BOUGHT the health club, THEN he could share it with whoever he wants to! It is HIS own property. The manufacturers and construction companies who built the walls and floors and ceilings and designed the building of the Health Club makes no difference. ?Someone who breaks into your house because his children are starving is "doing good" for his kids, though you may feel differently.? Again, you use criminal examples in your analogy that doesn?t even truly fit with the debate here. LoF didn?t break into Barnes and Noble and steal a whole shelf-full of books so he could enlighten others. He paid for the book with his OWN money. It is now for him to share if he wants to SHARE it. He?s not SELLING it for money. He is sharing his own PROPERTY. ?If I loved your car so much that I decided to share it with my friends without your permission would you call it theft?? If LoF PURCHASED your car, THEN he could do whatever he wishes to do with it. Because it becomes HIS OWN PROPERTY, as he OWNS it. -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: The difference here is that he bought a copy of a book, he didn't buy the copyright to the words himself. That is the difference here. It wasn't the book itself that was shared, it was the arrangement of words taken out of the book, which are copyrighted, that were shared on a medium that is publically accessed. Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Quote: -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: Hell, if it was WRONG, then there wouldn't be people in corporations shredding documents covering up their illegal dabblings. If it was WRONG to blow up buildings, we wouldn't have terrorists. Right? Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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So if I tuck you in Ni Ni, and read you my own book to you out loud every night, it's not sharing the arrangement of "copyrighted words" which are in the book that you're gonna read?
-------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: *shrugs* Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Alan Stone Corpus Registered: 11/23/02 Posts: 986 Loc: Ten feet up Last seen: 19 years, 5 months |
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Quote: If you'd bothered to read my post and not skim it, as you obviously have, you'd have seen that I was merely applying the same technicalities you yourself did. What I said in my post is that, while an idea cannot be copyrighted, the first application of the idea (i.e. the book in question) can. How is this a rationalisation of theft? Furthermore, I closed my post with the clear statement that I didn't think Lord of Fungus should have shared as much as he did. A short summary and a few direct quotes would have been enough. Lastly, you can only acknowledge theft if you acknowledge ownership. Clearly you do, but I, however, think - to paraphrase Rousseau - that capitalism came into existance not when a man stuck four poles in the ground to limit 'his' property, but when his fellow man believed him. Ownership, like anything in our private universes, is a matter of belief. -------------------- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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you know what's really funny? this conversation is actually going on. I see your point that you made so long ago swami.
people! enough of this already. it really doesn't matter does it? no. what's swami going to do, come through the computer screen take your book, slap you with it, spit in your face, and vanish into nothing? so what if you copied it, big deal. you bought the book, you even gave us a link so we may choose to actually make a purchase if we wanted to. the rest of this is just child's play most stuff said here has nothing to do with what was originally posted -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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lol, i bet LoF is pissed how jacked up his thread got =\
-------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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not really, this thread looks like it was more for reading than responding. he's got 420 something views on it, that's a lot. in that case it was a sucess.
see, it's all about perspective -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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hmm...I could definitely agree with that, seeing the beautiful irony and fate in that.
A blessing in disguise perhaps, heh. Everything happens for a reason -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Jellric altered statesman Registered: 11/07/98 Posts: 2,261 Loc: non-local |
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lol, i bet LoF is pissed how jacked up his thread got =\
Not at all. This has been an excellant thread.. for me to poop on!!! -------------------- I am what Willis was talkin' bout.
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Deiymiyan I AM Registered: 04/17/03 Posts: 656 Loc: Within the Realm Last seen: 15 years, 4 months |
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There seems to be alot of hooplah over what LoF did here by posting/ sharing some thoughts..
There is NO WAY that the author(s) of those words can be upset over this sharing of knowledge potential ! Why? First... At this time, what is shared among us within these Forums is rather 'contained' with respect to the rest of the planet. The authors will continue to profit from the writing regardless. And second.. In the words of the author: "How firmly set is my future? By coming into life, you essentially give up your free will. Once you?ve planned the life, you?ll stay upon that path. Your free will operates before an incarnation." So obviously, if they also walk the path that they speak of, then they must accept this incident AS IS... The intended purpose of it [LoF's post] was for Spiritual Development and sharing of concepts... It was a Spiritually Guided manoever on the part of LoF. ... And for what it's worth, at this present moment, I agree with the above quote in bold, as written by the author... [Aside- Fixed, with 'steering ability'.. Synonymous to the 'Main Highway Analogy'] [Aside #2- I love it when you all get so into these posts! It makes for entertaining reading !!] Peace
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fireworks_god Sexy.Butt.McDanger Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 24,855 Loc: Pandurn Last seen: 1 year, 10 months |
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Quote: Doesn't it, though? I figure that if you are going to show someone that you are insane, you might as well give em the full insanity trip, all at once. hehe Peace. -------------------- If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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HEY, I just had an epiphany related to the subject of the whole matter of what is described in LoF's post...
have any of you had like, yknow.."future flashbacks"? Sorta like Deja Vu, but a lil "more" than that? I've had several incidents like this...like small things that have no significance, I'll have this image in my head, just some random image...and like, years later.. BOOM! i LIVE that image! i see the whole "scene" right in front of me, like right there just as exactly i have pictured in my head years ago...like just standing there doing nothing really noteworthy of significance or whatever... I've had this happen to me quite a few times...and i've talked to alot of other people about it, who also related....so this could indeed be another supporting factor of the whole premise which is quite thoroughly and articulately explained in LoF's post... like maybe we're actually "remembering" what we had planned out? And maybe psychics are people who remember faster than most people? Hmmm...I'ma dwell on this epiphany s'more... -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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Bolwarra Stranger Registered: 06/28/03 Posts: 247 Loc: Australia |
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Thankyou Lord of the Fungus for taking the time to type out and share with us this book.
I have barely scratched the surface of this txt, my eyes cant take such lengthy screen sessions so i will take this one slowly. In regards to the copyright issues raised, i shall keep my thoughts to myself...obvious as they may be. thanks again. --------------------
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kaiowas lest we baguette Registered: 07/14/03 Posts: 5,501 Loc: oz |
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"Spirituality means, in essence, finding yourself, finding the God within and without, and fighting the battle against negativity. You see, even if just one of you will go out into the world and show the light to others, then a ?grayness? has turned bright. This is how you fight negativity, and it only takes a handful of you to accomplish a great deal."
word!....think of the implications of this. finding yourself, and finding god. what would that mean? I think this thread should get another look -------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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SkorpivoMusterion Livin in theTwilight Zone... Registered: 01/30/03 Posts: 9,954 Loc: You can't spell |
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Agreed.
To those of youse who's new to this thread--DONT READ Any of the posts non-related to what LOF originall posted! You will keeel yuuor brain sells! -------------------- Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love.
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