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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: Sclorch]
    #990703 - 10/24/02 07:28 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Actually Sclorch I am going to recommend that a few of us have a book discussion at several times and using several different authors, one per dialogue. I have chosen you to lead us in a reading of Nietzsche. I only have one stipulation. I want the talks to take place at the Literary Forum. It is quieter over there and is the proper forum for such a discussion. It will also expose Freddo's ideas to a different audience, perhaps one that might be more receptive. I don't mean to be a stickler on the topic aspect of this forum but I am one for a variety of reasons. I think that each regular here should expose themselves to the other forums even if they only read them. It is better over all that we familiarize ourselves with all this great community as to offer. That way when we are tired of the regs in one forum we have other venues to participate in.

Your ideas have intrigued me for a long time concerning Freddo. If he can be read differently then I want to experience that. Now I know this calls for a bit of effort on the part of the participants but I think that those who are really sincere about finding the truth won't mind a little 'homework'. At least I know I won't. It's a hell of a lot better than throwing Scripture verses in someone's face as some are wont to do.

One last proviso if you will. I am really involved in politics so the timing after this election will be better.

Cheers Bud,

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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: ]
    #992740 - 10/25/02 01:48 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I can do that... let me know when you're ready.
Which book? Maybe we can just do a short essay first.
*digs around in his library*


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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: Sclorch]
    #992825 - 10/25/02 02:37 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm, hard to say which book.  I suppose I want to look at one in which you are fluent.  Some seminal work such as Will to Power might be nice.  I did a quick scan of my philosophy section and came up with The Portable Nietzsche which includes sections from most of his works and a few letters, On the Genealogy of Morals Ecce Homo with commentary by Walter Kaufmann, and the Philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche by Henry L. Mencken.  I know I have more than that by my library isn't shelved properly.  Will to Power must be around here somewhere.

As you are our resident Nietzsche specialist I will defer to whichever book you deem best fitting. I don't think we want to go too deep though.  Too much hard thought might scare too many people away.  I can already hear some scurrying for cover. :wink:

Let me know which book you would prefer to discuss.

Cheers, 

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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: ]
    #998744 - 10/27/02 11:26 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Won't be reading Will to Power as it wasn't really HIS... it was pieced together by his Nazi-loving bitch of a sister. It's just too "iffy".

I also doubt people can blast through it as fast as I can (~30 pages a day- common chapter length). So, I was thinking about just hitting an essay or ONE chapter out of a certain book.

Another problem is one of translations. There are certain translators that do him justice and some the fuck it all up. So we'd have to have the same translator. I'm not sure if there's anything online (complete stuff)... but I'll check.

Also, if it is obvious that someone has NOT been keeping up with the readings (so I'm a fascist here... sue me), there has got to be some way to shut them up. I don't want voices of non-readers clogging up the thread. Sorry if I sound like a dick. PM me so we can work something out (I'm thinking next week I'll do it).


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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: Sclorch]
    #999376 - 10/28/02 07:26 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I really must recomend "Time,Space,and Knowlege by Tarthang Tulku" It is the work of a TRUE Zen master and is free of the the emotionaly distorted perspectives of MOST of the european sophists.It is what Nietchze struggled to enumerate and what particle physics has yet to learn.No discussion of philosophy will be complete without this work.WR


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Re: Theists and their understanding of Existentialism [Re: Sclorch]
    #999746 - 10/28/02 10:56 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I understand what you mean about the translator problem. With Aristotle it is even worse.

However if we set the bar too high there might not be a large enough audience. Surely even if you and I were to have the dialogue I would find it worthwhile. But I would like to have as many participate as possible. If we limit it to only certain translators there might be few that would care to buy the versions you use. We'll have to think about this. Maybe there is some kind of compromise that can be reached.

I'lll pm you when I get a chance to flesh out some details.

Oh, and the thing with non-readers barging in on the discussion? I totally agree with you. I don't think that's being a dick at all. We might set the discussion up so that the moderator will immediately edit out or perhaps delete those posts. One way to deal with it is to get the particiapants to agree to ignore those that aren't reading the text. We could even have people sign up and read the discussion in flat view so that we do not even see those who aren't reading.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Cheers,

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