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 Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... 
#316459 - 05/13/01 07:03 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well tripping Ive discovered two things: 1-rain is awsome
2- The reason God never comes around anymore is cause he's lost all
interest in us. At first we were new and excitin' to him, after +2000yrs
he doesnt like what we've become and has probably moved on to anther
solar system, some other planet t see if things are different with them.
Which also answers the 'are we alone?' question...
just my 0.02$
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 Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316464 - 05/13/01 07:15 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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that was lame
huh huh just my .02cence
first u get the money, then u get the Weemen!
Wee men? what the hell are u talking about!
i said woman; no u didn't man!
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first u get the money, then u get the Weemen!
Wee men? what the hell are u talking about!
i said woman; no u didn't man!
~Ur PAYING ME IN HAIR CLIPPINGS! WHAT ARE U cRAZY?
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316468 - 05/13/01 07:21 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your explaination is as valid, if not more valid than christianity.
"And then you will realize the truth; there is no spoon."
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316481 - 05/13/01 07:45 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually I dont think its God thats lost interest in us, i believe we've lost intrest in God.
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: AtticMonkey]
#316486 - 05/13/01 07:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think your wrong.
the human race is obsessed with finding god or a "high power" whatever you want to call it.
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316497 - 05/13/01 08:09 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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People need to start to believe in themselves, instead of a magical little man who lives in the sky.
"And then you will realize the truth; there is no spoon."
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316520 - 05/13/01 08:37 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you sure God is a man or even human like? I see "God" as an energy. I've seen it before. Maybe cuz I'm dying who knows but I don't think it's like what everybody thinks. "God" has not lost interest in us we just don't take the time to learn how to listen to her. (I say her as refering to a positive energy force like protons.)
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316770 - 05/14/01 07:46 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doesn't the sun shine? Don't the trees look pretty at dawn? Isn't the rain awesome? Don't stars look like shimmering dimonds in the sky? Seeing all this and other things, how can you say that God does not reveal himself?
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: plague member]
#316847 - 05/14/01 10:54 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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c'mon kids mainstream america is picking up on the relation of altered states of consciousness and god. you mean to say i can find basically mre information on this topic in newsweek Religion And The Brain than a board on spiritualiy and altered conciousness....last week I saw on the fox family channel all about alien experiences and altered states. ya'all are going to have to take a step back when mainstream has more eye opening radical views than yourselves....
http://www.msnbc.com/news/566079.asp?cp1=1#BODY
above is link(copy and paste if not working) newsweek article
Peace & Out
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: que]
#316897 - 05/14/01 12:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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god... the word used to manipulate the masses minds into believing what they want them too. A good example... the bible and jesus christ.
que- what are you trying to imply?
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: que]
#316941 - 05/14/01 01:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quite an interesting article there, Que. Thanks for the link. What amazing people those scientists are, they just can't help but catalog and fotograph and describe and talk and talk and talk, and they will tell you that God is a figment of your brain, completely forgetting, on the other hand, that brain, is, itself, just a figment of your brain... amazing!
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: Droz]
#316944 - 05/14/01 01:31 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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just saying i'm seeing some things here that are a little behind the curve like "god-a word used to manipulate the masses"....
it seems to be pulling towards "god-previously misunderstood: science reveals connections between brain chemistry and the reality of what has been interpreted as god for centuries".....when such stories the cover story in one of the largest publications in the world and on the fox familychannel I think we can move beyond wondering if perhaps christians are controlling, if this is your stance (it should be) Consider taking a look in to the reality of the god phenomena which some use in manipulative ways and use for your positive.....wheather it be learning from a ecstatic state of extacy (quite probably what Jesus was all about) or just knowing some things that many have not in the past on the science of god.....if your so inclined, never to be pushed but since your here your undoubtedly curious....even those who say they do not believe in god....if you take the effort to mention something that sez you are indeed thinking about it......
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: gribochek]
#316954 - 05/14/01 01:41 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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gribochek
Yea your right about the scientists, blah,blah....but what I like is things like this in the light. They are simple in a lot of ways but to go beyond that they are basically telling how your brain and/or hallucigens, breaks down barriers to connect with god but then they run into their own wall cuz they are men of science (some) and don't believe in god. Mainstream stuff you'll run into that also due to the fact they cannot say "we found God" then you have a major x-ian problem on your hands.....
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: gribochek]
#317133 - 05/14/01 04:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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it often terrifies me that most people forget that the category includes itself. for example, is the idea of tunnel reality, a tunnel reality, or is it a meta-tunnel reality, etc. labelling something does not always free one from its effects.
the materialist may put consciousness in the brain, and the occultist may put it in the cosmos, yet both be attached to mere ideas-about-reality. clearly, there comes a point where one must surrender the subject-object model, and become a single experimenter/experiment to find out where one's Will lies.
lotsa great theories goin' on here, but how many are 'in the lab' testing them?
peace/cj
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: CosmicJoke]
#317257 - 05/14/01 06:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the Bible is a beautiful work of fiction. The authors take all the negative aspects of human nature, and direct them to believe that an eternal father figure will punish them if they act on their own human nature. It's a remarkable book that any government should study. There are key insights on where a human's morals prevent him from rebelling. Too bad it backfired. Just look at the crusades. That isn't what "god" meant.
And if God does exist, I still wonder why we haven't heard from "Him". we have come a long way, and the Bible depicts him as someone who would have killed all the democrats by now.
Don't get me wrong, I believe we all share "God", but its nothing like Christianity depicts. There are no pearly gates, and no fire and brimstone.
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: Crasher]
#317380 - 05/14/01 07:52 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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The bible doesn't tell us what God will do to us, as a result of our own behavior but rather what we will do to ourselves as a result of free will. It is a owners manual on free will, which most have yet to master (hense Christ lived). The idea of coming to understand God is a culmulative adventure for humankind and we are the "lab". I have seen countless examples of my own free will, getting the best of me, time and again. Two things I know: 1) If you want to be "right" it may be difficult to be happy (which explains the failures of political/religious movements such as the crusades); and 2) self disipline is the vechicle of all spiritual movement in our personal lives. No one, especially in a setting which is founded on the use of mind altering chemicals such as The Shroomery, wants to hear that but the irony is that with shrooms you can't get high every day, on them. You have to WAIT a period of time before you will get the best effects.
The government will try to control society because that's it's job. They may use religion, police enforcement, taxes, etc. but as Christ said, "To Caesar with what is his." God isn't meddling with our lives because that is what we wanted. His influences are abstract to the point that only the quiet and observant minds will see. He is not a government. He is not our parents.
BTW when one speaks of "The Bible" one should clarify the difference between Old and New Testament because the writing styles are markedly different. The Old Testament uses mostly epic styled writing which is rooted in metaphore and requires interpertation, while the New Testament is written less metaphorically and more in the writers own observation on historical data and accounts of Acts of Christs Apostles and disciples (exception is the Book of Revelation, which is mostly a book of dreams, written in Epic style). Most of history's blunders in connection with the Bible, has been due to a lack of education on the possible meanings of its writtings. It is very important to understand many aspects of life during the time each portion of the Bible was written to gain full realization of It's potential to the single life of each reader, which amazingly It has the ability to render.
I continue to be amazed at how one time in my life, I passed off the significance of this incredible vessel because of sound bites I read or heard, provided by my local media company, trusting that they had my spiritual well being in mind instead of their own commercial motives.
"If something is worth doing is won't be easy and if something is easy, it may not be worth doing." Spirituality is not easy, it cannot be done from revelations alone and our thoughts alone do not constitute truth in the Divine sense. Happiness is the ultimate state of mind which is our purpose in the Divine sense. God could not "give" us happiness in the Devine sense so we recieved free will to which we could "achieve" happiness and thus be equal to God in Devine Sense. All He is so we can be.
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: que]
#317502 - 05/14/01 10:41 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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"There are people in the world so hungry that God can only appear to them as bread"
I think that we are all a little mislead when it come to "God" I see this God as energy. We are God and God is us. When you look in the mirror you see God, when you look at a tree tou see god. I heard someone say this, I think that it puts it best "there is only one god..Breath".
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Re: Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore... [Re: shroom-girlie]
#318155 - 05/15/01 07:33 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, but I refuse to allow myself to accept a book as faith. I intend to travel the path, see the other sides, study different paths, and choose when I am ready. But for now, my spiritual side (strong for my age, in my opinion) sways more towards God being energy.
By the way, could a christian explain these to me:
-Why does the new testament list Joseph's Geneology, when it is irrelevent given Jesus is "begotten"
-Why does orginal sin effect me? I am told that it does because I am human. Physically, yes, I COULD be a decendant of Adam and Eve, but God created my fresh *new* soul, which hasn't done anything, yet. Why should My body my spiritual downfall?
I'm not flaming Christians, I would just like to know
x-mas trees came from Celtics who decorated trees in worship of nature.
the idea that Satan has a tail, hooves for feet, and horns came from a druid nature god, if im not mistaken.
Nothing of what I say is a personal matter. All cultivation questions are on behalf of counterparts who risk growing. I take no responsibility in being the messenger.
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