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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: vicepope]
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That depends on the circumstances.  The test is whether there was an intent to deceive and make someone believe that you're a licensed attorney giving sound advice.  There's also a reasonable person test at play.  Would a reasonable person believe, under the circumstances, that he/she was getting legal advice from a licensed attorney?

Again, it takes a deception coupled with an attempt to get someone else to act on that deception.  If you want to be an attorney for purposes of chatting in a bar about nonsense, have at it.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Enlil]
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:goat:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Enlil]
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I actually am a attorney for some one

Attorney-at-law? Oh no, I handle someones plants and drugs, I'm a attorney of ethnogenic apothecary


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And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: gopher]
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dont you get background checks over there when you apply for a job? or do you just turn up on your first day like 'yeah mate im a brain surgeon, pass me the chisel thingy'

* in the UK impersonating a lawyer would carry a criminal charge , it sounds a bit different in the U.S but im guessing the same rule would apply in some fashion - im taking it as to get the job she applied for she needed to be legally able to represent someone (you call it bar registered over there iirc )

Edited by pugster (10/17/26 12:20 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: gopher]
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Enlil said:
vicepope said:
Define legal advice.


Legal advice would be something along the lines of "Posting on the shroomery about the cultivation of active mushrooms poses no risk of criminal prosecution."



as someone that works in a credential-focused industry, it's really hard for me to comprehend making the effort to get into a decent law school, graduate with a law degree, then take the bar and fall flat on your face and just give up.  I get that the bar is difficult, but that's why you do the work.  in the context of life's challenges, passing an exam you're educated for and whose subject matter isn't a black box is among the the easier challenges to overcome.  it's a lot of work, but so is practicing law.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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It's actually quite easy to pass the bar if you go to an accredited law school.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: pugster]
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pugster said:
dont you get background checks over there when you apply for a job? or do you just turn up on your first day like 'yeah mate im a brain surgeon, pass me the chisel thingy'

* in the UK impersonating a lawyer would carry a criminal charge , it sounds a bit different in the U.S but im guessing the same rule would apply in some fashion - im taking it as to get the job she applied for she needed to be legally able to represent someone (you call it bar registered over there iirc )



I don't really know what's going on anymore.  I work in non-gov infosec and I have to file my credentials with the feds yearly and redo my background checks every something years.  I can (and often am) be called at any moment and have 60 min to report for breathalyzer, 10 panel urinalysis, and hair follicle test.  then I hear about cia cats being arrested after being caught stealing gold bars and lo and behold their entirely employment or background history was bullshit and no one found it until they were looking at them in a criminal prosecutorial context. 

the world feels pretty goddamn upside down to me at the moment and I don't think I'm alone.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
pugster said:
dont you get background checks over there when you apply for a job? or do you just turn up on your first day like 'yeah mate im a brain surgeon, pass me the chisel thingy'

* in the UK impersonating a lawyer would carry a criminal charge , it sounds a bit different in the U.S but im guessing the same rule would apply in some fashion - im taking it as to get the job she applied for she needed to be legally able to represent someone (you call it bar registered over there iirc )



I don't really know what's going on anymore.  I work in non-gov infosec and I have to file my credentials with the feds yearly and redo my background checks every something years.  I can (and often am) be called at any moment and have 60 min to report for breathalyzer, 10 panel urinalysis, and hair follicle test.  then I hear about cia cats being arrested after being caught stealing gold bars and lo and behold their entirely employment or background history was bullshit and no one found it until they were looking at them in a criminal prosecutorial context. 

the world feels pretty goddamn upside down to me at the moment and I don't think I'm alone.


It's all about who you know and luck.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: vicepope]
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yeah she knew (or blew) some people but ran out of luck :grin:

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: pugster] * 1
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Any comfortable, public speaker such as a commercial actress or someone involved in theater could have parroted the portfolio of talking points in a flow state.



Her lack of credentials would not have been leveraged against her, except for her horrible interviewing skills.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: birdeatingspider]
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birdeatingspider said:
The first press conference this new one held, my eyebrows were at hairline and I gave a single slow clap, first thought being:
Yes, this one will do.
:excellent:


This is hilarious. That sums up my feeling as well... it's a real shame :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
I'm just giving you the straight dope on it.  A lawyer and an attorney are two separate things.  Even your quote says "IF" she held herself out as "ENTITLED TO PRACTICE LAW."  Calling herself a lawyer, in itself isn't doing so.  If she started giving people legal advice after calling herself a lawyer, that would be a different story.


Google disagrees with you:



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Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Enlil] * 2
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Enlil said:



That's funny, cuz I have seen both doctors and lawyers use google as a reference :lol:


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Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Walk into any ER in the country and you'll find a doctor at a computer reading Wikipedia or webmd.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Holybullshit] * 4
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so putin wants to meet with trump and xi to discuss the future of Ukraine...

is this where they decide that the USA gets Greenland, China gets Taiwan, and Russia gets Ukraine + a fractured NATO?  it would all be very on-brand for trump.  he's weirdly obsessed with Greenland, doesn't give a shit about Taiwan, he openly resents Ukraine, and he's also clearly in the pocket of, or under the thumb of the Russians.

historians must feel like this is some sort of fever dream.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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also, I want you to watch the flaming piles of shit that trump sets up between now and jan when the new congress is sworn in.  guaranteed poison-pill behavior between now and then, just like he did with the Biden administration.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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It's pretty crazy he promised his supporters golden phones but just stole 60 mil from them instead .


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
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whatever was discussed in his last performance review with putin must have put the fear of god into him because he's going all in on sucking putin/russias dick right now.  even republicans are like WTF.  trump/vance/musk are putting the hard squeeze on Zelenskyy all of a sudden and the only thing that really changed was a private phone call between trump and putin a couple of weeks ago.

trumps very likely a figurative dead man walking after january (I still anticipate them fucking with the election or refusing to swear in new dems) and I think the russians and israelis are leaning on him hard to get what they can while they can.  hegseth went to israel and met with bibi yesterday in secret, there's a third carrier and 10k troops on their way to the ME, and there's a number of indications that the USA and israel are going to take another shot at iran before trump and bibi potentially lose their political teeth. 

they are both fighting for their lives and they arent afraid to ruin economies and kill people to save their own asses.  putin as well, but russia has more or less completely abandoned even the pretense of fair elections.  I think the only reason russia still has elections is to draw out political opposition.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/10/22/jobless-claims-record-low-weekly.html
Economy is back to the 1960s with unemployment clams. It's a trump victory he didn't even aim for.


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