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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 2
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So my theory is falling apart with more grains tried. Brown rice in jars is pretty sticky, even with a lot of rinsing and under hydrated.


I am taking a small break and will test inoculating all 12 of the sorghum and rice jars with some pan li when I get going again. So far none of the jars are showing any signs of contam, but the oldest is only a couple of weeks old. It will be very interesting to see how the under hydrated jars do.

I want rice to work because it would be so easy and cheap to procure, but I think milo may win out for my gluten free gummies (hope I can find a sweet deal like mister phartin). I also want to play with the millet/milo and millet/rice blends to see if they help prevent pucks like they do with wheat. Will have to run a bunch of side by sides for all of the grain combos to see if the myc has a preference, too. Will definitely compare potency test results on myceliated grains as well.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Thank you for sharing your results Rev, it'll ne interesting to see how your LI runs!


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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I tried this method out last night using oats and unmodified lids.



200g oats : 175g water
1/4 turned lids, covered with aluminum
Let them cool over night inside the PC.

Today I took them out, tightened the lids. They looked a bit moist on the bottom so I shook them up.

I think they look okay? I'm still pretty new to the hobby so I'm not 100% sure.

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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: oatsnhoes] * 1
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Thanks for giving low-prep grains a try Oatsnhoes. (Love the name!) I've not tried unmodified lids with this but the jars look pretty good. I'd be curious how they look today after a couple days. The grains should work fine, have you grown w/unmodified lids before? I'm old-school, I drill a hole in my lids and stuff with Polyfil.

Good luck and please let me know how it goes!


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Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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YoshiTrainer said:
Thanks for giving low-prep grains a try Oatsnhoes. (Love the name!) I've not tried unmodified lids with this but the jars look pretty good. I'd be curious how they look today after a couple days. The grains should work fine, have you grown w/unmodified lids before? I'm old-school, I drill a hole in my lids and stuff with Polyfil.

Good luck and please let me know how it goes!


Yeah, my previous batch of jars I boiled the oats then PC'd with unmodified lids - the jars colonized well, but I found it a giant pain in the ass trying to get all the grains to dry so I wanted to give this prep a try. I will share a follow up when ready, thanks.

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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: oatsnhoes]
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Has anyone tried this with coffee/diluted coffee?


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: Huskies]
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I have not tried adding used grounds or liquid coffee but I'd imagine it wouldn't be a big deal. If your doing it for stones, I don't think most people use coffee anymore. By the same token, there are some pretty amazing grows w/coffee added.

If you do it, please report back here on how it goes.

Good luck!


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
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Hmmm, I will try doing that. I'll dry a diluted coffee for half of the jars, and other other half with water and with some coffee grounds. I wonder if that helps shaking.

I've been getting some millet clumps even if I shake right after pressure drops. Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.

I do have some coins taped to my presto weight, thus I am doing 16psi, am I overcooking my millet?


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I call them Huskies cause they Mush!


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The Official Wild Cubensis Thread
Easy Instant Pot Agar
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: Huskies]
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You shouldn't need to shake your millet while warm, cold shakes should be OK. I don't think you're over cooking it, the extra PSI should be fine. If your getting the occasional small clump, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If your clumps are larger and won't shake up, maybe try a few ml less water? Also make sure your jars aren't touching the walls of your PC.


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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I've tired coffee,  but if you add 1/2 ratio skin milk it helps will sticking together.
I was trying to show you but it says shroomery has not save image you have run out of space.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: vicepope]
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That is interesting VicePope, about the skim milk and grains not sticking. I wonder if it is the milk fat? Do the jars develop any sour smell to them? Only milo and wheat seem to stick badly.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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They  smell fine, but this just oats for far. I'll cook some wheat tomorrow with milk.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: vicepope]
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Cool, myc seems to like it!


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
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Wheat burst more with the milk add.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: vicepope]
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Dang, that jar looks rough!


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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Yea ill try again next week probably 20ml less liquid.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: ReverendMyc] * 3
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I like the look of brown rice and sorghum. Going to noc these up with some pan plates.

The ones I left to cool overnight are harder to shake and break. The four that I shook while hot were not too bad.

65 g sorghum
65 g whole brown rice
90 g water
in pint jars
3hr in instant pot

Found food grade brown rice at WinCo bulk food store for $19 for 25lb sack and red sorghum at my local feed store for $23 for 50lb bag. Hope the mycelium likes it.
I had to ask for milo at the feed store because the young kid behind the counter didn't know what sorghum was, either. Which made me feel a little less dumb. :wink:

Colors vary because I used up the last of the white milo mixed with the red.


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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Those look great Rev, can't wait to see how the mycelium likes it!


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
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Ran out of millet, I have some old oats that will last me until i go to a feedstore.

I poured out the remainder that I had and made sure to to remove as much dust as possible. I guess I don't have to bother rinsing them?

Btw, my tests hydrating with diluted coffee or adding coffee grains both came out fine. Similar speeds, maybe the coffee grain ones look a bit better, ill get pics later.


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I call them Huskies cause they Mush!


Huskies' Grimoire
The Official Wild Cubensis Thread
Easy Instant Pot Agar
Let's Talk Cowtek

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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: Huskies]
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If you got most of the dust off, you shouldn't need to rinse them.

Glad the coffee is working out. Are the coffee grounds used?


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Low Prep the World! (agar plates)
Low Prep the World! (grain prep)
Trashcan FC
Acidulated extraction gummies and drops
Drying agar and grains using parchment paper
:leaf:Cleaning your bubble hash bags


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