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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: stakesalad]
#28493607 - 10/05/23 07:19 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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edit: how happy are you with your millet ratio? does it leave room for g2g?
Edited by Huskies (10/05/23 07:24 PM)
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28493908 - 10/05/23 09:49 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Could you elaborate or do you have a link to a guide on edible mycelium TEK using brown rice?
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: deepestroots]
#28494043 - 10/06/23 12:51 AM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28495442 - 10/07/23 12:41 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks Yoshi, I've been looking for data on myceliated grain.
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: deepestroots]
#28495586 - 10/07/23 03:04 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to low-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28497336 - 10/09/23 07:35 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Another 4 jars on the way, this time using about 75% water
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Looking nice. Maybe some very slight mushiness at the very bottom. Going to test how it colonizes, might test 70-73% next time for oats
Thank you YoshiTrainer.
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Good luck!
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28504338 - 10/14/23 12:50 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Hi Yoshi. Just finished up a very successful grow on oats using your tek. Very few burst grains and only 1 jar with a bit of mush at the bottom that actually colonized and top fruited just fine… lol. The rest went to shoeboxes and did great through 4 flushes. Thank you!
I have moved to Rye and have 3 questions. I read the thread, and am sorry I missed it if these were answered…
1. Qt jars that I plan to a2g (no g2g expansion). What is the correct ratio of grain to water? 2. Do I need to clean them first? 3. Do they require a rough shake after pc’ing?
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: Bobgas]
#28504840 - 10/14/23 08:57 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Hello Bobgas, I'm glad everything is working smoothly for you.
1. Rye expands a little more than oats do. You might try a batch of 1 1/3C grain to 230ml. If I remember, 1 1/2C dried grain made it pretty full and possibly hard to shake. If you do go with 1 1/2C dried grain, the water should be 258ml.
2. Rye is usually pretty clean, most likely you won't need to rinse it.
3. You can let rye cool completely in you PC and shake it when you are ready to use it or even after inoculation. It is a little harder to break up than oats but just slightly.
Good luck!
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#28505837 - 10/15/23 05:22 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Awesome, thanks! I’ll post up how it goes. I just can’t believe how much time and energy was saved with the oats - no boil, no dry, just load and go! The Ghost I ran loved the oats.
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: Bobgas]
#28507861 - 10/17/23 09:02 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Gonna try your millet ratios soon, been doing 1 cup/ 1/2 with Crack's, which has always been a bit empty on the jar side.
Is 1 1/3 of millet the upper ratio to still have g2g space?
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: Huskies]
#28507988 - 10/17/23 11:02 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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I haven't run straight millet in a bit, it is $$ for me to get here. Looking back at pictures, it looks like 1 1/3C dry grain should fill your quart jar about 2/3-3/4 full after PC, definitely room for G2G. I need to go back and reread Crack's prep to see the differences. Crack can grow some mush!
Good luck!
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: Huskies] 1
#28508023 - 10/17/23 11:32 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
Huskies said: Gonna try your millet ratios soon, been doing 1 cup/ 1/2 with Crack's, which has always been a bit empty on the jar side.
Is 1 1/3 of millet the upper ratio to still have g2g space?
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#28508027 - 10/17/23 11:36 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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I have been doing 2/3 cup millet in wide mouth pints, so half recipe. They turn out beautifully right at 3/4 full.
 So just enough room for g2g.
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28508037 - 10/17/23 11:48 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Thank you guys, your jars look great!
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28518771 - 10/26/23 10:46 AM (3 months, 18 hours ago) |
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For fun, a couple 1/2 gallon jars with SC Tampanensis recovering after G2G. One is low-prep oats, the other LP RGS. I accidentally made the RGS too wet but should be fine
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28520794 - 10/28/23 02:49 AM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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60% water to oats has worked the best so far in terms of not needing to shake the living thing out of jars to get the mushy part to dislodge. I'll try 50 or 55% next time as some shaking was still required. Also i'm now painfully aware of how hard is for the myc to colonize the mushy compressed bottom, even oyster is having trouble
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You need to make sure to shake them. It breaks up the grain puck at the bottom and helps to even out the moisture content.
Good luck w/your experiments!
Edit: You don't need to hot shake, you can let them cool completely in your PC. Then just shake when ready to use or after inoculation.
Edited by YoshiTrainer (10/28/23 09:31 AM)
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Re: YoshiTrainer's guide to no-prep grains [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28521008 - 10/28/23 10:50 AM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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Quote:
YoshiTrainer said: You need to make sure to shake them. It breaks up the grain puck at the bottom and helps to even out the moisture content.
Good luck w/your experiments!
Edit: You don't need to hot shake, you can let them cool completely in your PC. Then just shake when ready to use or after inoculation.
Thanks. Good to know
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