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-74,243 mail-in ballots had no record of ever being sent to anyone, but were received and counted as legitimate votes - suspected as entirely fraudulent

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Everything will be spelled out in full detail with proof after the final report is out

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mndfreeze said:

I focused on the tech shit because thats what I do for a living and have for the last 24 years.  I can't offer anything more than you on the other stuff, which is complete and utter assumption based on limited to no real information specifically because I don't have the facts to say its true or not.  You on the other hand are very very quick to jump on the LOOK AT THESE FACTS bandwagon based on a debriefing with limited information by a very biased source.

I did also check a few news reports on it and they indeed claimed it was a router specifically. So you didn't mix up their words they once again are just speaking garbage.  This is and always has been political theater and has never been 'transparent' like you claim, nor have any actual bombshell facts been dropped. Just a lot of open ended questions to imply suspicion without the proof behind it.

Not to mention multiple audits have already taken place:

On January 27, 2021, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors approved a multi-layered forensic audit of the tabulation equipment to add to steps already done to ensure the integrity of elections in Maricopa County.
The county hired two independent firms certified by both the National Institute for Standards and Technology, and the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission:
o Pro V&V audited the elections equipment February 2–5 and February 15, 2021.
o SLI Compliance audited the elections equipment February 8–12, 2021.

But sure, rando uncertified, incompetent tech company with right ties and a CEO with a history of posting conspiracy shit to twitter obviously are the pro's here.  Makes perfect sense, if you want to see conspiracy theories.

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chopstick said:

I already told you that I might have got my words mixed up about whether it involved a router or not. Keep in mind I am going off a live hearing that I only listened to temporarily and can't easily go back and find specific segments to clarify that particular part. However, just because I fucked that part up doesn't mean that they don't have evidence of a script being ran involving the 37,000 queries and that it deleted the data. If they didn't have actual proof of these claims, there is no way it would be included in the audit report - the Arizona senate is very adamant that their report must be 100% factual and will not tolerate any incorrect information in the report for integrity reasons. So I would wait until the report is released and see if this information makes the final cut or not.

I don't know why the fuck they are using a server that only allows for 20mb of storage. You'd have to ask the Maricopa county board of elections why that is. This is the government we're talking about, afterall. Not exactly a competent bunch - which is why we're in this situation in the first place.

At any rate, you are singling out one thing in particular but doing nothing to discount the other irregularities involving the ballots and voter rolls that were caught in the audit.

How is it possible that 74 thousand ballots have no record of ever being sent to voters in the first place? There are only 2 explanations: either these votes are 100% fraudulent, or somebody fucked up the paperwork for them somewhere. We will get the answer to that question once the full report is released.

You love to discredit Cyber Ninjas, but their job was focused only on one specific aspect of the audit. Even if they are discredited in your mind, what about all of the other things that have been caught? Do they just not count because you take issue with the cybersecurity aspect?

And last but not least - if there is no conspiracy as you claim - why has Maricopa county fought this audit tooth and nail from day one? Why are they still refusing to pass over certain electronics to the audit team for forensic analysis? Why do they have no explanation for all the irregularities which seem to suggest fraud? They certainly aren't making themselves look innocent - but rather, they are acting quite like they have something to hide.

At any rate, we are discussing what is essentially preliminary information released during a live hearing. Everything will be spelled out in full detail with proof after the final report is out. Then we can all judge the proof that is revealed in the report. That is when the real shit-show will begin.

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chopstick said:

mndfreeze said:

I focused on the tech shit because thats what I do for a living and have for the last 24 years.  I can't offer anything more than you on the other stuff, which is complete and utter assumption based on limited to no real information specifically because I don't have the facts to say its true or not.  You on the other hand are very very quick to jump on the LOOK AT THESE FACTS bandwagon based on a debriefing with limited information by a very biased source.

I did also check a few news reports on it and they indeed claimed it was a router specifically. So you didn't mix up their words they once again are just speaking garbage.  This is and always has been political theater and has never been 'transparent' like you claim, nor have any actual bombshell facts been dropped. Just a lot of open ended questions to imply suspicion without the proof behind it.

Not to mention multiple audits have already taken place:

On January 27, 2021, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors approved a multi-layered forensic audit of the tabulation equipment to add to steps already done to ensure the integrity of elections in Maricopa County.
The county hired two independent firms certified by both the National Institute for Standards and Technology, and the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission:
o Pro V&V audited the elections equipment February 2–5 and February 15, 2021.
o SLI Compliance audited the elections equipment February 8–12, 2021.

But sure, rando uncertified, incompetent tech company with right ties and a CEO with a history of posting conspiracy shit to twitter obviously are the pro's here.  Makes perfect sense, if you want to see conspiracy theories.

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LOL, so you are taking audits conducted by the Maricopa County board of elections - the same people who may have very well been directly involved in the fraud - and taking them as the gospel truth, but the actual real full forensic audit involving a full deep-dive into the entire election (and not just election equipment) conducted by 1500 volunteers of mixed political orientation is not worth taking seriously? They literally video-recorded every single step of the process to be as transparent as possible, and had a 24/7 livestream of all the ballots being counted that anyone could watch at any time, but you're claiming they're not transparent? LOL!

At this point you're just using your personal bias to justify ignoring it. And once again, your criticism is focused primarily on Cyberninjas - even though, as I've already said, their work focuses on only one aspect of the audit and even if you discredit them it does not discredit the rest of the audit.

The fact that they have identified >100,000 votes that are highly suspicious and may be indicative of fraud is in itself, a bombshell. Now they just need to release information on how many of these votes were for Biden and how many were for Trump. If it is found that most of these votes were Biden votes, then Biden simply cannot claim that he actually won the state of Arizona and that there wasn't massive fraud in his favor.

Biden's administration is in a difficult place right now. Biden was forced to go to PA and beg them not to do an AZ-style audit. He has instructed his DOJ to intimidate the Arizona state senate in a desperate attempt to stop this from happening. These are not the actions of an administration which is confident that it won fairly.

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Biden's administration is in a difficult place right now. Biden was forced to go to PA and beg them not to do an AZ-style audit. He has instructed his DOJ to intimidate the Arizona state senate in a desperate attempt to stop this from happening. These are not the actions of an administration which is confident that it won fairly.

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chopstick said:

Alright feevers, so I'm a poo-poo head Qanon conspiracy theorist. That's great. Got any evidence that dis-proves the findings of a full forensic audit that had 1500 people working on it day and night for weeks to come up with an accurate result or are you just going to keep slinging insults?

As for the voting laws you're talking about, the Arizona audit proves that they were absolutely 100% justified in passing them. What happened in the 2020 election is a national disgrace.

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Yes, and there will be a lot more where that came from in the coming months.

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chopstick said:

Yes, and there will be a lot more where that came from in the coming months. The fact that we've just had the most fraudulently conducted election in US history isn't something that people are just going to forget about. People want to know their votes actually counted and weren't drowned out by fraud, and lawmakers in these states aren't letting it go either. They have a duty to their constituents to prove to them that this election was legitimate. And if it's found that it wasn't, it is likewise their duty to do something about that as well.

So far the consensus here is: "The Arizona audit doesn't count because we don't like the results! Neener neener neener!"

Well too bad, because the full report with undeniable evidence pertaining to the findings in the preliminary hearing is coming. And now they're also doing one in Pennsylvania - which Joe Biden has tried to stop by visiting PA and asking them not to do it. It's unlikely that will be successful. Biden's DOJ is trying to intimidate the people running the audits as well, by threatening them with arrests - which is pretty funny, because if they actually won fairly they wouldn't have a problem with the audit. On the contrary, the audit would *prove* they won fairly, which would only make their hold on power more legitimate. So why are they trying to stop it?

This is reality. And as I've said, no amount of character smears or attacks on the audit will just magically make it go away.

At the very least - this is leading to the passing of much needed voter ID laws and mail-in ballot reform that will make it much harder for this to happen in the future. And that's a good outcome if you ask me - America is built on its democracy. If we don't have fair elections anymore then your vote truly doesn't matter and this country is finished and might as well be a dictatorship.

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“They are going to issue a report at some time in the not too distant future, it will be very interesting to see,” Trump said.

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