Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | Next > | Last >
Offlinejomanda1990
Ewewazos
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/15/18
Posts: 688
Loc: Argentina Flag
Last seen: 13 hours, 32 minutes
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27070506 - 12/03/20 06:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
I'll have at least 5-10 prints to share by January



Of which species?


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblecoAsTal
Friend
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/04/06
Posts: 2,970
Loc: 8a
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27070546 - 12/03/20 06:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Smalltalk is growing Semperviva (Hoog. var. convexa AKA subtropicales)

Me too :smile:


--------------------
I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the Heart's affections and the truth of Imagination--  John Keats

Spore Trading List


Edited by coAsTal (12/03/20 06:51 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineYeetusdeetus
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/23/19
Posts: 1,224
Last seen: 8 hours, 18 minutes
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #27070551 - 12/03/20 06:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

True hoogs tend to grow in clay I believe. Those lil umbrella caps are super neat


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,709
Last seen: 17 days, 21 minutes
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #27070594 - 12/03/20 07:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Ahaaaaaaaaaaa

I guess when didn't see the wizard nipples I should have known

What should I call it when I describe it to others? P. Subtropicale ? Semperviva? Psilocybe Hogshagenii



Edit:

"P. Hogshagenii var convexa" also called "Semperviva"


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue



Edited by smalltalk_canceled (12/03/20 07:55 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemind.at.large
Myconerd


Registered: 12/13/16
Posts: 1,140
Loc: Floating in liquid gardens
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27070801 - 12/03/20 09:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:threadmonitor:


--------------------
Mind's Easy Bag 2 Bag Grain Transfers


Endless Sub Tek


...the doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblenosf3r4tu


Registered: 03/26/19
Posts: 775
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27071072 - 12/04/20 01:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mycorry said:
Just for clarification because it bothers me so much to see these misnomers being thrown around.

Is this thread meant to be focused on hoogshagenii or subtropicales? I ask becaus hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales. Subtropicales is not directly related to hoogshagenii. The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 


VS
Psilocybe hoogshagenii                            Psilocybe subtropicales


Having said that, It is my opinion that subtropicales is the best mushroom for cultivation after one gains experience with cubensis. It is better in every way, trust me and try it, but get your spores from a reputable source. I have 4 sets of subtropicales genetics and two of them are by far more aggressive at pinning and colonization than the others.

My preferred strategy with these is to set a petri dish(must be the ventilated type) with subtropicales myc aside for a few months to wait for a dish pin. Clone that dish pin and use it to nock up grain jars. It should do the trick for just about every type of fruiting chamber. Just be sure that the plate that has been set aside to pin has only had maybe 2 transfers from the original so to retain as many sets of genes as possible.

I have a flush coming up right now that should be ready for pics in a few weeks!(it's cold, so they are slow) I'll post 'em when they happen :smile:

Edit: Here's a pic of those pins. This specific culture seems to really like a plain Choir casing layer compared to peat:verm.







Made this thread before going to bed and woke up to 24 posts already 😊
Thank you mycorry for the clarification. That's exactly why I started this.
Seems like a wonderful species and has so much confusion around it that makes people stay away.
I've already edited the title of the thread and I want to edit the first post/introduction with info on the species that may help anyone interested to get started.
This ^ may take some time cuz I just found out I got funding to start a mushroom farm and my thoughts are all over the place now...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblenosf3r4tu


Registered: 03/26/19
Posts: 775
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071108 - 12/04/20 02:24 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Here's my little project

I have 4 of those containers.
Sterilized substrate inoculated with agar wedge (strait from the inoculation plate)
1 part barley, 1 part manure, 1 part straw. (The same recipe I used for cubes).
I've used this approach with panaeolus and had 100% success rate. (Different substrate recipe)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblexspak
Stranger
Registered: 06/08/20
Posts: 82
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071131 - 12/04/20 02:45 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I hope to get spores soon.

Are they the same potency as pans but easier to grow ? That would be wonderful.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblenosf3r4tu


Registered: 03/26/19
Posts: 775
Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 2
    #27071148 - 12/04/20 03:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think pans are hard. More complicated... probably. But they move a lot faster than semperviva.
On the flip side semperviva is slow and steady. Very resistant to contamination and can produce for long periods of time. Over 1 year. I don't know if it's worth to keep it going for that long though. This makes me wonder if it could be posible to add new substrate/food to it. Just like people add wood chips on woodlovers beads and keep them going for 10+years.
If that could be possible than it really is worthy of its name. Semperviva - For Ever Living. 
Potency I've heard is on the same level with pans but have not tried semperviva yet.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAsuraS
Cyantist


Registered: 08/01/11
Posts: 5,032
Loc: Texas
Last seen: 4 days, 10 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071205 - 12/04/20 05:01 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:camping:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblealaskappalachian
peakbagger


Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 1,543
Loc: The 49th Dimension
Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #27071209 - 12/04/20 05:13 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Didn't know shit about subtropicales/semperviva until I started reading through this thread (other than the most rudimentary info, plus I have been watching a guy on IG pull decent subtrop. harvests and getting jealous...).  Learned something today.  Pretty excited to try these.  Thanks for the great post btw, nosf3r4tu.  :rockon:


--------------------
LAGM2023


"First we build the tools, then they build us."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepolaritymind
relaxed attention
I'm a teapot

Registered: 10/10/16
Posts: 993
Loc: Germany Flag
Last seen: 2 months, 7 days
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27071298 - 12/04/20 06:51 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mycorry said:







Wow those hoogshageni look funny :laugh: awesome

I have this thumbnail preview plugin that enlarges pics when hovering above them, its great. For anyone who doesnt have such a thing I recommend clicking on it and looking at it in large!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAmbrose

Registered: 01/16/20
Posts: 518
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: polaritymind] * 1
    #27071468 - 12/04/20 09:30 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycorry
The Empirical
 User Gallery


Registered: 06/01/18
Posts: 381
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 2
    #27071496 - 12/04/20 09:50 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

RiverBum said:
So is OP actually referring to P. Subtropicalis? I have been referring to the species I have as Semperviva because I have been confused as to what species it actually is. It appears I have Subtropicalis. Thanks for the clarification Mycorry  :cheers:




No problem!

That top down pic in your sig of the subtropicales jar is magical :wowz:


--------------------
My Trade Lists


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRiverBum
Male


Registered: 10/16/18
Posts: 141
Loc: Down by the river!
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: xspak] * 1
    #27072043 - 12/04/20 02:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, they truly are a beautiful species.

Quote:

xspak said:
Are they the same potency as pans but easier to grow ? That would be wonderful.



In my experience they are very easy to grow but not quite as potent as pans. The potency is more similar to mexicana, which is still quite strong!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAsuraS
Cyantist


Registered: 08/01/11
Posts: 5,032
Loc: Texas
Last seen: 4 days, 10 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 2
    #27072264 - 12/04/20 05:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

mycorry!

I have a bag going now...about 5 whole pins so far :lol: I think this attempt
might be good.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineel gordo
not the youtube one
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/05/20
Posts: 103
Last seen: 1 day, 20 hours
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #27072385 - 12/04/20 06:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

just made me buy a print 😇


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,709
Last seen: 17 days, 21 minutes
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: el gordo] * 1
    #27072443 - 12/04/20 06:52 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Got two more fresh prints to share, pm, looking for ape lape apeu any albino cube strain really

First come, first served


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Eater of Potatoes.
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 1,926
Loc: Dimension X-124
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27072452 - 12/04/20 06:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
Got two more fresh prints to share, pm, looking for ape lape apeu any albino cube strain really

First come, first served



PM'd you since my print turned out to be too old.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,709
Last seen: 17 days, 21 minutes
Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 3
    #27072499 - 12/04/20 07:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Got one subtropicale print left now to request

Good clusters?



--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue



Edited by smalltalk_canceled (12/05/20 08:15 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | Next > | Last >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion
( 1 2 3 4 ... 617 618 )
firstTIMER420 441,209 12,351 06/04/23 08:59 AM
by Mycolorado
* Sporeless Cubensis? Herbus 4,387 16 02/11/05 01:57 PM
by scatmanrav
* Sterile mushrooms (sporeless) <pic> dirk gently 1,966 8 06/21/02 10:23 AM
by World Spirit
* Sporeless Fruit Magash 2,015 9 09/06/02 08:55 PM
by Zen Peddler
* sporeless gills? zazz 1,072 5 10/13/02 11:08 PM
by zazz
* My first sporeless mutants... mycocurious 801 2 11/10/07 06:26 PM
by mycocurious
* Printing Semperviva Javadog 2,603 17 01/23/11 01:48 PM
by Javadog
* What p.c. strain is best for outdoors? Rudiger420 889 4 03/08/04 02:47 PM
by Loki

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato
89,704 topic views. 28 members, 123 guests and 27 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2023 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 13 queries.