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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27070506 - 12/03/20 08:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I'll have at least 5-10 prints to share by January



Of which species?


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27070546 - 12/03/20 08:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Smalltalk is growing Semperviva (Hoog. var. convexa AKA subtropicales)

Me too :smile:


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #27070551 - 12/03/20 08:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

True hoogs tend to grow in clay I believe. Those lil umbrella caps are super neat


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #27070594 - 12/03/20 09:15 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Ahaaaaaaaaaaa

I guess when didn't see the wizard nipples I should have known

What should I call it when I describe it to others? P. Subtropicale ? Semperviva? Psilocybe Hogshagenii



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"P. Hogshagenii var convexa" also called "Semperviva"


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27070801 - 12/03/20 11:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27071072 - 12/04/20 03:47 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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mycorry said:
Just for clarification because it bothers me so much to see these misnomers being thrown around.

Is this thread meant to be focused on hoogshagenii or subtropicales? I ask becaus hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales. Subtropicales is not directly related to hoogshagenii. The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 


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Psilocybe hoogshagenii                            Psilocybe subtropicales


Having said that, It is my opinion that subtropicales is the best mushroom for cultivation after one gains experience with cubensis. It is better in every way, trust me and try it, but get your spores from a reputable source. I have 4 sets of subtropicales genetics and two of them are by far more aggressive at pinning and colonization than the others.

My preferred strategy with these is to set a petri dish(must be the ventilated type) with subtropicales myc aside for a few months to wait for a dish pin. Clone that dish pin and use it to nock up grain jars. It should do the trick for just about every type of fruiting chamber. Just be sure that the plate that has been set aside to pin has only had maybe 2 transfers from the original so to retain as many sets of genes as possible.

I have a flush coming up right now that should be ready for pics in a few weeks!(it's cold, so they are slow) I'll post 'em when they happen :smile:

Edit: Here's a pic of those pins. This specific culture seems to really like a plain Choir casing layer compared to peat:verm.







Made this thread before going to bed and woke up to 24 posts already 😊
Thank you mycorry for the clarification. That's exactly why I started this.
Seems like a wonderful species and has so much confusion around it that makes people stay away.
I've already edited the title of the thread and I want to edit the first post/introduction with info on the species that may help anyone interested to get started.
This ^ may take some time cuz I just found out I got funding to start a mushroom farm and my thoughts are all over the place now...


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071108 - 12/04/20 04:24 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Here's my little project

I have 4 of those containers.
Sterilized substrate inoculated with agar wedge (strait from the inoculation plate)
1 part barley, 1 part manure, 1 part straw. (The same recipe I used for cubes).
I've used this approach with panaeolus and had 100% success rate. (Different substrate recipe)


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071131 - 12/04/20 04:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I hope to get spores soon.

Are they the same potency as pans but easier to grow ? That would be wonderful.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071148 - 12/04/20 05:09 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I don't think pans are hard. More complicated... probably. But they move a lot faster than semperviva.
On the flip side semperviva is slow and steady. Very resistant to contamination and can produce for long periods of time. Over 1 year. I don't know if it's worth to keep it going for that long though. This makes me wonder if it could be posible to add new substrate/food to it. Just like people add wood chips on woodlovers beads and keep them going for 10+years.
If that could be possible than it really is worthy of its name. Semperviva - For Ever Living. 
Potency I've heard is on the same level with pans but have not tried semperviva yet.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27071205 - 12/04/20 07:01 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #27071209 - 12/04/20 07:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Didn't know shit about subtropicales/semperviva until I started reading through this thread (other than the most rudimentary info, plus I have been watching a guy on IG pull decent subtrop. harvests and getting jealous...).  Learned something today.  Pretty excited to try these.  Thanks for the great post btw, nosf3r4tu.  :rockon:


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27071298 - 12/04/20 08:51 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Wow those hoogshageni look funny :laugh: awesome

I have this thumbnail preview plugin that enlarges pics when hovering above them, its great. For anyone who doesnt have such a thing I recommend clicking on it and looking at it in large!


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: polaritymind] * 1
    #27071468 - 12/04/20 11:30 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 2
    #27071496 - 12/04/20 11:50 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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RiverBum said:
So is OP actually referring to P. Subtropicalis? I have been referring to the species I have as Semperviva because I have been confused as to what species it actually is. It appears I have Subtropicalis. Thanks for the clarification Mycorry  :cheers:




No problem!

That top down pic in your sig of the subtropicales jar is magical :wowz:


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: xspak] * 1
    #27072043 - 12/04/20 04:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thanks, they truly are a beautiful species.

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xspak said:
Are they the same potency as pans but easier to grow ? That would be wonderful.



In my experience they are very easy to grow but not quite as potent as pans. The potency is more similar to mexicana, which is still quite strong!


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 2
    #27072264 - 12/04/20 07:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

mycorry!

I have a bag going now...about 5 whole pins so far :lol: I think this attempt
might be good.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #27072385 - 12/04/20 08:15 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

just made me buy a print 😇


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: el gordo] * 1
    #27072443 - 12/04/20 08:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Got two more fresh prints to share, pm, looking for ape lape apeu any albino cube strain really

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27072452 - 12/04/20 08:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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smalltalk_canceled said:
Got two more fresh prints to share, pm, looking for ape lape apeu any albino cube strain really

First come, first served



PM'd you since my print turned out to be too old.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 3
    #27072499 - 12/04/20 09:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Got one subtropicale print left now to request

Good clusters?



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