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Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread * 10
    #27070123 - 12/03/20 03:57 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hey.
I just couldn't wait for this thread anymore.
I see more and more people cultivating this species, I just got started with it, and from the stories I've read about it, it definitely deserves it's own thread.
I just want to get it started.
So, if you have any experience, questions, suggestions,... feel free to participate.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27070148 - 12/03/20 04:12 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Since I know nothing about those, maybe a short introduction?


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: polaritymind] * 3
    #27070173 - 12/03/20 04:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)



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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 6
    #27070187 - 12/03/20 04:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Just for clarification because it bothers me so much to see these misnomers being thrown around.

Is this thread meant to be focused on hoogshagenii or subtropicales? I ask becaus hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales. Subtropicales is not directly related to hoogshagenii. The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 


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Psilocybe hoogshagenii                            Psilocybe subtropicales


Having said that, It is my opinion that subtropicales is the best mushroom for cultivation after one gains experience with cubensis. It is better in every way, trust me and try it, but get your spores from a reputable source. I have 4 sets of subtropicales genetics and two of them are by far more aggressive at pinning and colonization than the others.

My preferred strategy with these is to set a petri dish(must be the ventilated type) with subtropicales myc aside for a few months to wait for a dish pin. Clone that dish pin and use it to nock up grain jars. It should do the trick for just about every type of fruiting chamber. Just be sure that the plate that has been set aside to pin has only had maybe 2 transfers from the original so to retain as many sets of genes as possible.

I have a flush coming up right now that should be ready for pics in a few weeks!(it's cold, so they are slow) I'll post 'em when they happen :smile:

Edit: Here's a pic of those pins. This specific culture seems to really like a plain Choir casing layer compared to peat:verm.




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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070202 - 12/03/20 05:00 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Waiting for my Semperviva spores to germinate rn so I'll tag along for this thread. Good call nosferatu


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 1
    #27070209 - 12/03/20 05:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070227 - 12/03/20 05:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

:threadmonitor:


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smalltalk_canceled said:
More tubs pinning:



Fruits maturing:







"Which" is this? Semper, Hogshagenii subtropical?


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070267 - 12/03/20 05:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Sure would love to see a grow of that nippled P. hoogshagenii.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: elpico] * 1
    #27070269 - 12/03/20 05:57 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I'm hoping for the same but it is a very rare psilocybe from what I've read up on it.
I have a P. hoogshagenii var. convexa print I grabbed up from a reputable source and will join in with whatever info I can gather.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 3
    #27070334 - 12/03/20 06:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Great idea! I hope this thread takes off, this species doesn't get the attention it deserves. I am currently fruiting some in a mini mono, the pinset was pretty uneven but it is starting to fill out nicely :smile:

Also had to take a picture of this chunky fruit with a cool stripe


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070341 - 12/03/20 06:48 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 






Interesting, thanks for sharing this info.
The nippled hoogshageni supposedly grows down here in northern Argentina, in a province that I'm most likely going to visit next year. Other rare Psilocybe species mentioned found by Singer/Guzman in Tafi del Valle, Tucuman province (Argentina), were P. Zapotecorum, and P. collybioides, the latter of which I have found NO pictures except for this.

Would you happen to know the best time of the year to visit to find P. hoogshageni or these other species? If I get to these species and grow them I'll be sure to spread them prints like wildfire.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070344 - 12/03/20 06:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

mycorry said:
... a separate species of which few have spores of.





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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070351 - 12/03/20 06:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

mycorry said:
The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 






Interesting, thanks for sharing this info.
The nippled hoogshageni supposedly grows down here in northern Argentina, in a province that I'm most likely going to visit next year. Other rare Psilocybe species mentioned found by Singer/Guzman in Tafi del Valle, Tucuman province (Argentina), were P. Zapotecorum, and P. collybioides, the latter of which I have found NO pictures except for this.

Would you happen to know the best time of the year to visit to find P. hoogshageni or these other species? If I get to these species and grow them I'll be sure to spread them prints like wildfire.



If you're able to find a good amount of fruits you could spread more than a few spore prints.
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bw86 said:
Quote:

mycorry said:
... a separate species of which few have spores of.





:cool:



P.Hoogshagenii and P. hoogshagenii var. convexa (Semperviva) are two different mushrooms.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 2
    #27070355 - 12/03/20 06:53 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

not confusing at all.
I guess convexa would indicate it has no nipple...


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070359 - 12/03/20 06:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

This is why mycorry made a great effort in distinguishing the two.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070362 - 12/03/20 06:55 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

so do i have Psilocybe subtropicales?


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070364 - 12/03/20 06:56 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

yep.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070397 - 12/03/20 07:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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If you're able to find a good amount of fruits you could spread more than a few spore prints.




I'll try my best and gather info on the best seasonal conditions for this mushroom and sync my trip to Tucuman accordingly. I was there with my family last year so I couldn't go mushroom hunting at all. Got a better car now so it'd be a great excuse to hit the road, once the fucking COVID-19 situation here settles a bit.

As for the other mystery Psilocybe species (P. Collybioides), I ONLY found it described in English on this 1958 Mycology journal, pages 284-288. There's drawings of its spores as well but I've got no clue about microscopy. I think we need Dr. Alan Rockefeller to come down here. I don't know if there's info on it's edibility/psychoactivity. 
K, I'm done derailing the thread with this other species.


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27070441 - 12/03/20 07:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I'll have at least 5-10 prints to share by January


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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 2
    #27070448 - 12/03/20 07:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

So is OP actually referring to P. Subtropicalis? I have been referring to the species I have as Semperviva because I have been confused as to what species it actually is. It appears I have Subtropicalis. Thanks for the clarification Mycorry  :cheers:


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