Home | Community | Message Board

Avalon Magic Plants
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | Next > | Last >
Invisiblenosf3r4tu


Registered: 03/26/19
Posts: 775
Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread * 23
    #27070123 - 12/03/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey.
I just couldn't wait for this thread anymore.
I see more and more people cultivating this species, I just got started with it, and from the stories I've read about it, it definitely deserves it's own thread.
I just want to get it started.
So, if you have any experience, questions, suggestions,... feel free to participate.

Edit:

Quote:

Moopers said:
Hi all!

I've read through every page of this thread and some grow longs, and I've attempted to compile comprehensive notes on growing P. subtropicalis, organizing the wisdom/experience of many of the growers here into topics. It's in my signature and also here. I hope it will become a useful resource.




Quote:

Melgo said:
Hey guys,

If you're interested, here's my take on growing the beautiful mushroom: Growing Semperviva/Subtropicalis - My standard procedure, it all comes down to the basics.

:mushroom2::heart:





Edited by fahtster (12/14/23 01:41 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepolaritymind
relaxed attention
I'm a teapot

Registered: 10/10/16
Posts: 994
Loc: Germany Flag
Last seen: 4 months, 27 days
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27070148 - 12/03/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Since I know nothing about those, maybe a short introduction?


--------------------
"to affirm life is to also affirm death"
-Albert hofmann

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleellomello
XP
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/11/08
Posts: 2,424
Loc: babilonUSA
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: polaritymind] * 3
    #27070173 - 12/03/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



--------------------
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN get back to the garden

some came singing, some come to play, some come for keeping the dark away

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycorry
The Empirical
 User Gallery


Registered: 06/01/18
Posts: 387
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 8
    #27070187 - 12/03/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just for clarification because it bothers me so much to see these misnomers being thrown around.

Is this thread meant to be focused on hoogshagenii or subtropicales? I ask becaus hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales. Subtropicales is not directly related to hoogshagenii. The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 


VS
Psilocybe hoogshagenii                            Psilocybe subtropicales


Having said that, It is my opinion that subtropicales is the best mushroom for cultivation after one gains experience with cubensis. It is better in every way, trust me and try it, but get your spores from a reputable source. I have 4 sets of subtropicales genetics and two of them are by far more aggressive at pinning and colonization than the others.

My preferred strategy with these is to set a petri dish(must be the ventilated type) with subtropicales myc aside for a few months to wait for a dish pin. Clone that dish pin and use it to nock up grain jars. It should do the trick for just about every type of fruiting chamber. Just be sure that the plate that has been set aside to pin has only had maybe 2 transfers from the original so to retain as many sets of genes as possible.

I have a flush coming up right now that should be ready for pics in a few weeks!(it's cold, so they are slow) I'll post 'em when they happen :smile:

Edit: Here's a pic of those pins. This specific culture seems to really like a plain Choir casing layer compared to peat:verm.



Edited by mycorry (12/03/20 04:13 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineTweeq
Tweeq of Nature
Male

Registered: 06/07/18
Posts: 2,052
Loc: Netherlands Flag
Last seen: 7 minutes, 13 seconds
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070202 - 12/03/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Waiting for my Semperviva spores to germinate rn so I'll tag along for this thread. Good call nosferatu

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 1
    #27070209 - 12/03/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:takingnotes:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,901
Last seen: 9 hours, 2 minutes
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070227 - 12/03/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:threadmonitor:


Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
More tubs pinning:



Fruits maturing:







"Which" is this? Semper, Hogshagenii subtropical?


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleelpico
Stranger

Registered: 11/28/16
Posts: 324
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070267 - 12/03/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sure would love to see a grow of that nippled P. hoogshagenii.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: elpico] * 1
    #27070269 - 12/03/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm hoping for the same but it is a very rare psilocybe from what I've read up on it.
I have a P. hoogshagenii var. convexa print I grabbed up from a reputable source and will join in with whatever info I can gather.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRiverBum
Male


Registered: 10/16/18
Posts: 141
Loc: Down by the river!
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 3
    #27070334 - 12/03/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Great idea! I hope this thread takes off, this species doesn't get the attention it deserves. I am currently fruiting some in a mini mono, the pinset was pretty uneven but it is starting to fill out nicely :smile:

Also had to take a picture of this chunky fruit with a cool stripe

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejomanda1990
Ewewazos
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/15/18
Posts: 689
Loc: Argentina Flag
Last seen: 1 month, 27 days
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070341 - 12/03/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mycorry said:
The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 






Interesting, thanks for sharing this info.
The nippled hoogshageni supposedly grows down here in northern Argentina, in a province that I'm most likely going to visit next year. Other rare Psilocybe species mentioned found by Singer/Guzman in Tafi del Valle, Tucuman province (Argentina), were P. Zapotecorum, and P. collybioides, the latter of which I have found NO pictures except for this.

Would you happen to know the best time of the year to visit to find P. hoogshageni or these other species? If I get to these species and grow them I'll be sure to spread them prints like wildfire.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebw86
Doesn't play well with others


Registered: 11/12/06
Posts: 5,953
Loc: 7b
Last seen: 4 hours, 20 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27070344 - 12/03/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mycorry said:
... a separate species of which few have spores of.





:cool:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070351 - 12/03/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

jomanda1990 said:
Quote:

mycorry said:
The iconic big nippled hoogshagenii is a separate species of which few have spores of. 






Interesting, thanks for sharing this info.
The nippled hoogshageni supposedly grows down here in northern Argentina, in a province that I'm most likely going to visit next year. Other rare Psilocybe species mentioned found by Singer/Guzman in Tafi del Valle, Tucuman province (Argentina), were P. Zapotecorum, and P. collybioides, the latter of which I have found NO pictures except for this.

Would you happen to know the best time of the year to visit to find P. hoogshageni or these other species? If I get to these species and grow them I'll be sure to spread them prints like wildfire.



If you're able to find a good amount of fruits you could spread more than a few spore prints.
Quote:

bw86 said:
Quote:

mycorry said:
... a separate species of which few have spores of.





:cool:



P.Hoogshagenii and P. hoogshagenii var. convexa (Semperviva) are two different mushrooms.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebw86
Doesn't play well with others


Registered: 11/12/06
Posts: 5,953
Loc: 7b
Last seen: 4 hours, 20 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 2
    #27070355 - 12/03/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

not confusing at all.
I guess convexa would indicate it has no nipple...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070359 - 12/03/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is why mycorry made a great effort in distinguishing the two.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebw86
Doesn't play well with others


Registered: 11/12/06
Posts: 5,953
Loc: 7b
Last seen: 4 hours, 20 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070362 - 12/03/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

so do i have Psilocybe subtropicales?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #27070364 - 12/03/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

yep.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejomanda1990
Ewewazos
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/15/18
Posts: 689
Loc: Argentina Flag
Last seen: 1 month, 27 days
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27070397 - 12/03/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mushhead said:
If you're able to find a good amount of fruits you could spread more than a few spore prints.




I'll try my best and gather info on the best seasonal conditions for this mushroom and sync my trip to Tucuman accordingly. I was there with my family last year so I couldn't go mushroom hunting at all. Got a better car now so it'd be a great excuse to hit the road, once the fucking COVID-19 situation here settles a bit.

As for the other mystery Psilocybe species (P. Collybioides), I ONLY found it described in English on this 1958 Mycology journal, pages 284-288. There's drawings of its spores as well but I've got no clue about microscopy. I think we need Dr. Alan Rockefeller to come down here. I don't know if there's info on it's edibility/psychoactivity. 
K, I'm done derailing the thread with this other species.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,901
Last seen: 9 hours, 2 minutes
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Threa [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27070441 - 12/03/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'll have at least 5-10 prints to share by January


--------------------
Willpower is the one true virtue


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRiverBum
Male


Registered: 10/16/18
Posts: 141
Loc: Down by the river!
Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 2
    #27070448 - 12/03/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So is OP actually referring to P. Subtropicalis? I have been referring to the species I have as Semperviva because I have been confused as to what species it actually is. It appears I have Subtropicalis. Thanks for the clarification Mycorry  :cheers:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | Next > | Last >

Shop: Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion
( 1 2 3 4 ... 651 652 )
firstTIMER420 473,172 13,036 03/18/24 08:25 PM
by 99.99
* Official Misc EXOTIC Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 148 149 )
Jakeoncid419 117,675 2,972 03/19/24 12:28 AM
by DERRAYLD
* Printing Semperviva Javadog 2,739 17 01/23/11 01:48 PM
by Javadog
* What p.c. strain is best for outdoors? Rudiger420 959 4 03/08/04 02:47 PM
by Loki
* P. subtropicalis(semperviva) 22nd Iteration 1,013 1 11/26/21 01:52 AM
by PsiloPsychIn
* Psilocybe semperviva (P. hoogshagenii var. convexa) Pins!
( 1 2 3 4 all )
stonesun 13,357 77 12/26/21 01:43 PM
by Hoogshagenii
* Semperviva germination times? mycomonster 1,103 12 03/29/10 08:49 AM
by mycomonster
* Damn busted p.c. :( Olgualion 753 10 04/28/03 08:04 PM
by Olgualion

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
150,620 topic views. 11 members, 95 guests and 26 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.034 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 14 queries.