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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #27084727 - 12/11/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

S_C Great job!

The only way to know if they are ready to print is by taking a close look at the gills. Subtrop spores are black so once you start seeing it build up it is time to print them.

Please be sure to clone that cluster.:thumbup:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 2
    #27084747 - 12/11/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks great S_C! Like the others said give em time and let the gills get nice and dark and you will get good prints :smile:
Meanwhile I harvested the last fruits to mature from my mini mono yesterday!

That pile weighed in at 280g fresh and my total weight from the first flush was 445g of fresh potent mushrooms! Love this species!

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 1
    #27084870 - 12/12/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks great S_C! Like the others said give em time and let the gills get nice and dark and you will get good prints :smile:
Meanwhile I harvested the last fruits to mature from my mini mono yesterday!

That pile weighed in at 280g fresh and my total weight from the first flush was 445g of fresh potent mushrooms! Love this species!



What spawn/sub ration (recipe) did you use to get that harvest?

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27085118 - 12/12/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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nosf3r4tu said:What spawn/sub ration (recipe) did you use to get that harvest?



2 quarts of good old Pennington's bird seed spawned to 4 quarts of coffee supplemented coir.

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 1
    #27085127 - 12/12/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

By giving time you mean not harvesting fruits and waiting for the gills to visibly turn dark?


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27085150 - 12/12/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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By giving time you mean not harvesting fruits and waiting for the gills to visibly turn dark?




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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 2
    #27085151 - 12/12/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, if you want nice dark prints let the mushrooms mature until the gills start to turn black.

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 3
    #27085266 - 12/12/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting thread! I posted my best flush of these P. subtropicalis quite a while ago in another thread, and the bin is still going. I lost count but I think it has produced about 10 flushes by now. I took a clone of a nice cluster a while ago, made LC and inoculated popcorn spawn with it. I just spawned this to pasteurized straw, worm compost and gypsum, so I hope to contribute some new pictures soon. I'm growing these at 18°C at the moment in an unmodified bin.

Here's the picture of a couple of months ago:



Also, the Latin name is P. subtropicalis with an 'i' at the end. So the thread title is wrong. Just saying so it doesn't get ingrained!

http://www.indexfungorum.org/names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=414042

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Poison Drink] * 1
    #27085284 - 12/12/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Beautiful grow poison! I like how those caps dont aggressively curl upwards like they do for me. Any insight on what might make the caps do that?

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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Poison Drink] * 1
    #27085331 - 12/12/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Interesting thread! I posted my best flush of these P. subtropicalis quite a while ago in another thread, and the bin is still going. I lost count but I think it has produced about 10 flushes by now. I took a clone of a nice cluster a while ago, made LC and inoculated popcorn spawn with it. I just spawned this to pasteurized straw, worm compost and gypsum, so I hope to contribute some new pictures soon. I'm growing these at 18°C at the moment in an unmodified bin.

Here's the picture of a couple of months ago:



Also, the Latin name is P. subtropicalis with an 'i' at the end. So the thread title is wrong. Just saying so it doesn't get ingrained!

http://www.indexfungorum.org/names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=414042




Fixed.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27085343 - 12/12/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anybody has suggestions/ideas for an automated FC for this species?
They are prone to be neglected at some point. Giving 10 plus flushes.
Everybody needs to leave home a few days now and then.

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: RiverBum] * 4
    #27085386 - 12/12/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Beautiful grow poison! I like how those caps dont aggressively curl upwards like they do for me. Any insight on what might make the caps do that?





My experience with subtrops has shown that early flushes will have the tightly curled cap where with later flushes the cap curl can relax all the way to the point where it doesn't curl anymore. This is easy to see because the species contam resistant so it's not unusual to get 5-8 flushes from a little mono.

T his is the second flush from a good clone clone culture         

This is the exact same box as above, recased, but on flush #8. The curl is almost gone. This is how they are usually found in the wild, because fruiting spots last years.


Quick edit: Caerulescens has a similar process where the later flushes lose their cap curl. I don't have enough experience with Zaps to say if this concept holds true for them too.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27085416 - 12/12/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Have you seen any noticeable changes in potency between subsequent flushes? I wonder if the substrate already being precolonized affects whether spores will germinate more/less readily


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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27085466 - 12/12/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There is a thread dedicated to an auto fc chamber on another popular mushroom site 😉

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #27085613 - 12/12/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Have you seen any noticeable changes in potency between subsequent flushes? I wonder if the substrate already being precolonized affects whether spores will germinate more/less readily





I have not tried any sort of potency breakdown in relation to flush number.

If I had to make a wild guess I would say that the later flushes are likely to be more potent because the mushrooms of later flushes tend to grow more slowly. Once again, that's just a shot in the dark.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dark fatal7] * 1
    #27088238 - 12/14/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't got a chance to poure agar and try to save some of the myc from my contaminated containers and today when I looked at them it seems that semperviva is making progress in the mold filled substrate so I decided to let them do they're think.
Here's how they look now.

This is my only healthy container

This is one of the mold infested ones.

And this is the other one.
I have another container that has 2 green spots but I didn't take any pics cuz it's in posible to see it properly.

If semperviva wins the battle I'm renaming it to Chuck Norris or Bruce Willis.

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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 3
    #27089585 - 12/14/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)







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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27090384 - 12/15/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27090533 - 12/15/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Look'n great!

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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry] * 1
    #27090610 - 12/15/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Print secondo picture shrooms noaw?

They flipped their teeth

Are they mature now:





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