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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura] 1
#27491078 - 10/03/21 01:27 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asura said: TCO, sorry if I missed it, but what's your substrate? My last round was straight coir, cased with 50/50. Pulled a whole 6g dry 
Was going to do coffee supplemented coir next round based on some other grows, but I gotta say the doctor says coffee makes me nervous.
Depends on how lazy I'm feeling. This time it's straw. Plain and simple. Everything lazy tek. Too many irons in the fire at the moment to do otherwise. In the past I've had good luck with various substrates though. Various mixes of straw, yerba mate and bamboo have all produced some really big fruits. I'm pretty sure this one was on straw / yerba. It's what I would consider medium large.

I don't trust coffee or coir to hold up under time parameters so I've never tried it with these.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one]
#27491080 - 10/03/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah lazy tek for me all the way as well. I'm worn out. Want to grow something that's like watching paint dry for awhile. I'll skip the coffee.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Ambrose]
#27491090 - 10/03/21 01:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ambrose said: Here's that tray I posted previously. Guess maybe I should not have thrown out the culture it came from, oops . Pleasantly surprised to see what I think is some sporulation goin on, not sure when I should attempt to print, looks like a couple caps are maybe ready?
   
That's amazing! They just keep getting better
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#27491162 - 10/03/21 02:58 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ambrose you are amazing
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] 2
#27509264 - 10/18/21 04:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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First pin on a tub spawned 9/15 with consolidated spawn. Not much to look at the moment obviously but an exciting sign of things to come nonetheless.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: multifractal]
#27509350 - 10/18/21 06:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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My last two attempts were just like this. A single pin almost a month to the day from spawn. Then random fruits popping up over two months.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Asura]
#27511501 - 10/20/21 03:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now signs of at least 6 pins on the surface so maybe the flush won't be so inconsistent.
Furthest along in a little cluster:

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried fruiting these without a casing?
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: multifractal] 1
#27511614 - 10/20/21 05:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't like how mine have performed without a casing actually. They don't like drying out at all IME (water hogs actually) and my own environment just isn't conducive.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian]
#27511864 - 10/20/21 10:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Nichrome]
#27512111 - 10/21/21 06:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Flushed okay for me the ones that made it last time, this round looks like it will be pathetic:
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#27512332 - 10/21/21 10:59 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pathetic is the word...
I´ve been waiting for at least 2 months now. FINALLY they show.


I will have to work on my technique i guess. At least now i know that they in fact do fruit under "standard cubensis" conditions.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Zwinst] 2
#27512344 - 10/21/21 11:13 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have never had success with subtrops without casing, while every (non contaminated) attempt with a casing resulted in at least a few dozen pins(if not a huge cluster). I strongly recommend either a peat/verm casing or a plain choir casing.
I have been successfully cultivating subtrops for long time so I can say with confidence that without a casing you are asking to be frustrated away from the species.
For those of you who went without a casing, I suggest dunking the cakes in water for 4-8 hrs, then scratching the surface of the mycelium to break through the potential overlay(keep it shallow, don't knick any grains), then casing and refruiting.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry]
#27512387 - 10/21/21 12:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean by "casing"? I may be lost in translation here. To me "casing" means putting whatever into some sort of case. For example a box open on top. In my case this means putting spawn mixed with coir into a planting tray. As seen on my pictures.
Please clarify.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Zwinst]
#27512396 - 10/21/21 12:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Casing means a non nutritious top layer. I've used plain vermiculite with great success. Just mist it once every 2 days or so.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry]
#27512399 - 10/21/21 12:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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mycorry said: I suggest dunking the cakes in water for 4-8 hrs, then scratching the surface of the mycelium to break through the potential overlay(keep it shallow, don't knick any grains), then casing and refruiting.
This is a good advice.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27512444 - 10/21/21 01:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: Casing means a non nutritious top layer. I've used plain vermiculite with great success. Just mist it once every 2 days or so.
Ok! That is what i did. I forgot to mention the layer of coir on top. Sorry. It has been so natural for me, i didnt even think of it.
So the moisture/CO2 gradient may be the culprit in my case. More air... Since you said you mist, i guess you don´t hold your shrooms captive in a box with a lid on top, like i do. Check!
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Zwinst]
#27512458 - 10/21/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zwinst said:
Ok! That is what i did. I forgot to mention the layer of coir on top. Sorry. It has been so natural for me, i didnt even think of it.
So the moisture/CO2 gradient may be the culprit in my case. More air... Since you said you mist, i guess you don´t hold your shrooms captive in a box with a lid on top, like i do. Check!
Oh I see! Well, my problem with a pure choir casing is that sometimes Subtrops will eat it all the way through to the top of the casing, then get damaged by being exposed causing overlay. I havn't isolated a culture that eats all the way through a choir casing yet, but I assumed that it was possible. It appears that you have found a culture that defeats the usefulness of choir casing in this application.
I suggest making a peat/verm casing(because peat cannot be colonized by subtrops) and trying again. Asura's Casing recipe has been a standard of mine for a while.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry]
#27512490 - 10/21/21 02:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Them going all the way through the substrate is a symptom of them beeing happy, i guess. And i don´t see how they could get "damaged" by reaching the "top". Overlay in my opinion is just an artifact of preferable conditions for growth, instead of fruting.
I will try applying a top layer composed of digestible and indigestible stuff. Sounds good!
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Zwinst] 1
#27512536 - 10/21/21 02:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did that once with coir/verm 1:1 vs jiffy peat seed mix. It was a cubensis PE variety, though.
pre casing

just cased (the darker side is the peat casing)

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fist pin came on the colonized CV side...

but in end
 the Jiffy peat casing that did not get colonized performed much better for several flushes.
It will be interesting to see if that holds up with this species.
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Re: Reply to Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27512560 - 10/21/21 03:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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My dear friend those are cubes?
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