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My two remaining trays have been given a burial in the garden. The casing layer that I re-cased with started to get some kind of mould. They had been in fruiting since mid February with 0 pins to show for anything.
Gonna have to re read the thread and see what I can improve. Any consensus on the best substrate for these? My mix of a little bit of everything looked nice but it didn't put out. At this point I have no clue what was the main problem. Could have been anything. PH? Substrate?, too wet, dry? first time casing was probably way too early in hindsight.
Soo starting over from spores again
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tweeq] 1
#27326544 - 05/28/21 10:35 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tweeq said: My two remaining trays have been given a burial in the garden. The casing layer that I re-cased with started to get some kind of mould. They had been in fruiting since mid February with 0 pins to show for anything.
Gonna have to re read the thread and see what I can improve. Any consensus on the best substrate for these? My mix of a little bit of everything looked nice but it didn't put out. At this point I have no clue what was the main problem. Could have been anything. PH? Substrate?, too wet, dry? first time casing was probably way too early in hindsight.
Soo starting over from spores again
I've had that happen before. It could be an unlucky non-fruiting culture.
I have tried all sorts of complicated and simple sub recipes with these and most seem to work out. However, whenever I have pinning problems I go back to simple BRF and straw/verm, or manure and straw until I see the results I want.
Subtrops have most of the same needs as cubes, with the exception of FAE(subtrops like less than cubes) and with subtrops there is no need for a "pinning strategy". So I'd say follow all the same PH and water content guidelines as cubes.
Starting over from spores sounds like a good idea. I usually run multiple separate germinations in parallel to ensure results.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycorry]
#27326813 - 05/28/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback! A kind member supplied a fresh print so I can start over.
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Tweeq said: My two remaining trays have been given a burial in the garden. The casing layer that I re-cased with started to get some kind of mould. They had been in fruiting since mid February with 0 pins to show for anything.
Gonna have to re read the thread and see what I can improve. Any consensus on the best substrate for these? My mix of a little bit of everything looked nice but it didn't put out. At this point I have no clue what was the main problem. Could have been anything. PH? Substrate?, too wet, dry? first time casing was probably way too early in hindsight.
Soo starting over from spores again
I've had that happen before. It could be an unlucky non-fruiting culture.
I have tried all sorts of complicated and simple sub recipes with these and most seem to work out. However, whenever I have pinning problems I go back to simple BRF and straw/verm, or manure and straw until I see the results I want.
Subtrops have most of the same needs as cubes, with the exception of FAE(subtrops like less than cubes) and with subtrops there is no need for a "pinning strategy". So I'd say follow all the same PH and water content guidelines as cubes.
Starting over from spores sounds like a good idea. I usually run multiple separate germinations in parallel to ensure results.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Tweeq] 1
#27336770 - 06/05/21 09:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is that "slop some overly wet compost into a shoebox and open up the doors and windows all day for two weeks" tek. Seriously though, I will be running then with 50/50 straw compost and choking the air way off next time.
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My friend says: "I've been studying/observing this species for a long time. To me it's still a mystery.
I've never gotten decent flushes. I've been working with 2 faint prints all the time. Now, I have no more spores of semper. I need newer/fresher genetics.
Can anyone kindly provide a fairly decent print from a healthy grow so that I can keep experimenting with this species? Hopefully a dark print from a mature specimen.
I believe, not sure though, they might like slightly more acidic substrates so that biomineralization can take place. Subtropical substrates are a bit acidic. I assume alkaline substrates or casings may prevent proper nutrient absorption. My thoughts as an edaphologist. Not an expert mushroom grower.
I also want to experiment supplementing with diammonium phosphate.
I'd appreciate the help" - That's what she said.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Elseta2]
#27341604 - 06/09/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm currently at T1 with these, obviously going to do another transfer or two but I'm almost tempted to poke this and make a small batch of LC for a couple test bottles..
Ambrose prints are clean af.

Elseta if I'm lucky enough to get fruits I will happily send a print.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: seldom seen]
#27342043 - 06/09/21 06:31 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's everyone casing with?
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: seldom seen] 1
#27342144 - 06/09/21 08:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Elseta if I'm lucky enough to get fruits I will happily send a print.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Elseta2]
#27371997 - 07/02/21 05:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Got a strange subtropica agar plate thats overgrown and now shows 20-30 clustered pins. Should I use this?
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Sounds like it.
I’d for sure clone some of the pins too.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#27372095 - 07/02/21 06:44 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah because this is something of a positive event right? Agar had been sittinh in high room temperature for 1-2weeks and now shows the same clustering from my original corn-to-sand grow
I wanna see if they turn into full fruits before I make a cut, but this is exciting! Last time unscrupulousply unable to establish a clone culture. All tissue work = green.
Can't stop thinking about how good a spore printer maker and grower captain future is, man that guy is a beast. This print, what I got from this, just amazing!!!! Did he clone? I will never know
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Yeah usually stuff that pins on a plate is solid genetics ime.
Especially something like semperviva that’s not especially quick.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#27372132 - 07/02/21 07:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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So do these things take forever to pin or what? I know they’re slow but so far they’ve been pretty similar on grain and agar compared to nats or cubes in terms of speed. I’m just wondering if I should just toss the trays I have going. It’s been about two weeks since casing and nothing
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Wall.E]
#27372341 - 07/02/21 11:46 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's normal. Mine pined after 40 days... If nothing happens in 30 days you should scrape the casing and put another one. They also need 23°C to fruit.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27372466 - 07/03/21 05:50 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay thanks man, I appreciate it
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27373197 - 07/03/21 07:00 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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They will pin at lower temperatures maybe even 5 lower in my experience. Also I had a lot of fruit flies attacking them all the time last grow , and lo and behold, my single current spawned shoebox is attacked by them again.
Must be something they like.
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I just streaked some spores i got from a shroomerite to some plates. Less goo
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: Big_Dub]
#27379519 - 07/08/21 05:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is my subtropicalis germination plate 2 days after inoculating. Really excited to get started with these. Has anyone run this species using sugarcane for a substrate? I have easy access to cured sugarcane so I think I will try it out alongside one coir tub.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: multifractal]
#27401091 - 07/25/21 12:26 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you guys think it is important to inoculate grain spawn with mycelium that has been proven to produce mushrooms ie clone a pin? I'll have some T2 multispore plates ready in a few days but am not sure if I should wait on moving to grain.
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Re: Official Hoogshagenii/Semperviva Thread [Re: multifractal] 1
#27401105 - 07/25/21 12:56 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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No need to wait for plate pins with these (just extra time waiting on pins IME, of which there is already such a generous surplus). Also, in reference to your previous post that went unanswered: don't see anything wrong with sugarcane. They grow on everything from straw to moosepoo to sawdust and coir to just coir. Bet they'd love it.
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