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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said:
I guess you could try a veterinary store and buy a horse syringe. Or I forget who but one of the tcs has got a pump that screws into a huge jar of lc, like a half gallon of it.

Just out of curiosity what are you doing with that much pan lc?


thank you. just want to inoculate big bags at once. I'm running moderatly big (~50L of substrate) project now:rolleyes:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
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youd be better off running more smaller bags than fewer bigger ones in my experience bigger bags say over the 5-7 lb mark dont seem to colonize as well and as fast as tbey should and have better chances at stalling out. i actually started breaking my trays up into 2 bags per tray instrad of 1 for that very reason and have had far better colonization both in strength and in faster times since doing so


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Edited by jcm4620 (08/21/20 11:56 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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Remember those pics of some kind of huge commercial type pan grow? I wonder how they have their spawn/sub set up.

Seems like grain spawn would be easiest for those huge trays.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
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hell i use a grain spawn for my size trays even


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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thatd b awsum to have a commercial sized room of pans🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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They sell big ones on amazon. Even sell a 500ml lure lock syringe. I use the 100ml sometimes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
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celestial check ur pms man


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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Well I definitely have respect for people who can cult pans because I can officially say that I cannot. I gave it a good full on 7 month run and I don’t know if it was the summer or what the deal was but whatever the block is I can’t find it. I may give it another go during the winter but for now I’m packing it up. Thank you guys.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
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Celestialexplorer1 said:
Well I definitely have respect for people who can cult pans because I can officially say that I cannot. I gave it a good full on 7 month run and I don’t know if it was the summer or what the deal was but whatever the block is I can’t find it. I may give it another go during the winter but for now I’m packing it up. Thank you guys.


Pans are alot easier to grow in the summer Celestial. Where i am there is only about a 2 or 3 month  window when Pans are easy, July to September. The further you get from those months the more difficult it becomes. If you're turning the heat on in your house its the wrong time to be growing pans.
Sandose domesticate is the easiest ime. They don't need the warmth or fae as other pans.
Perfect time of year for the Mexican species though.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rumblestrip]
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sandose are cambos which is why they are a bit easier to grow. also it all just depends on how bad u wanna grow them i live in the midwest and it gets hot here in the summer and cold as a witches tit in the winter and i have no problem growing them at all. its really just as simple as keeping your house/growing area within the same temp range via the hvac  and most importantly having the proper fruiting chamber that does the rest as far as providing the environmental conditions favorable for fruiting

unless ur talking outdoors lol


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Edited by jcm4620 (08/21/20 05:33 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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jcm4620 said:
youd be better off running more smaller bags than fewer bigger ones in my experience bigger bags say over the 5-7 lb mark dont seem to colonize as well and as fast as tbey should and have better chances at stalling out. i actually started breaking my trays up into 2 bags per tray instrad of 1 for that very reason and have had far better colonization both in strength and in faster times since doing so


thank you for information. I divide it to many bags, but maybe next time will make more. I will share the dynamic


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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My point is if he's having trouble with them in the summer it's only going to get harder in the winter.
In the summer the temps are usually in the 80f range and ambient humidity is high. It's easy to tweak your grow environment to suit the pans with constant fae. If you have to heat in the winter then your ambient humidity drops. You've got to pump a lot of additional humidity into your environment because of the fae requirements. If you don't have a system to vent the excess humidity from your room/house it can create mold/condensation and other issues.
I'd rather work smarter than harder.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rumblestrip]
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It’s strange the only time of the year I was having success was in the winter then and there is a return vent in the grow room. I was saying winter is just better in general because there are much less mold spores floating around during those cold months and contam was a problem for me for awhile with pans and recently contam actually hasn’t been the problem at all. The thing is my trays just aren’t fruiting at all. I make them I put them in they sit for 2 weeks and then I throw them away and put new ones in. I’m not saying I haven’t had success at all. It would be complete insanity to keep doing this if I hadn’t. I’ll get trays that fruit fine once in awhile right next to the trays that never do and they all look and we’re treated identical. Any way I have a couple more trays I’m gonna try.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rumblestrip]
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I'm team winter. Some of my best grows have happened Oct-Dec. Can hardly
wait for things to cool down. I have way less issues and it's just as
easy for me to maintain conditions in my grow room.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
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for contam wise winter is def better but like i said as long as u have a fc that can keep optimal conditions there is no problem at all. its not a matter of working harder


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Edited by jcm4620 (08/21/20 06:55 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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maybe its just me and my anal thermostat settings lol i never get above 75 or below 72 lol central air and heat like a mofo i dont care how high my bill is lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
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Yeah me neither. Doesn’t matter what time of the year I’m always in that same range


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
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I hear you celestial. 15 failed trays since April. Not a single fruit. Everything looks right going into fruiting but they just sit for 2 weeks then get tossed. Only 2 actually triched out during that time. The rest just never pinned. Multiple configurations in the Martha and still nothing. Got an inkbird in there now running the ultrasonic, 1 small PC fan, a wicking humidifier and heated tub of water at the bottom. Conditions are 95-98% the with constant low airflow. Latest tray is on day 6 and nothing. I'm not giving up yet but it's so frustrating.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
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I guess I'm the odd one out. For me they run so fast in the summer and pin in 3-5 days. The varieties with nice tight flushes are great because it gives you a chance to deal with contams if they arise. The long continuous flushing varieties are much harder to manage.
Then again I'm in canada. Counteracting our low ambient winter humidity and additional heating  is alot of work to overcome.
You guys seem to be fruiting them in the mid 70's. I never had decent flushes until the temp was 80+. Sandose snd goliath (cambs) werethe only ones that did well at lower temps.

Edited by Rumblestrip (08/21/20 07:34 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rumblestrip]
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With pans the key to most problems seems to be more air and moisture. I kinda get stuck in a loop where it’ll be getting too wet so I increase air, then the next day it’s getting a little dry so I increase the fog and the cycle repeats.

The thing is I kept getting better and better results until I was close to max on the fogger setting.


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