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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #26886494 - 08/18/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it definitely looked like some kind of wood shavings... should I not use it?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886497 - 08/18/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think the Pans will mind some sawdust, especially composted. And I can tell you IME Pans love hardwood sawdust.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
    #26886505 - 08/18/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck it then I'll give it a go 👍


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886519 - 08/18/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think pine has something in it that mushrooms don't like


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #26886530 - 08/18/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Eh, people say the mush/mycel doesn't like a lot of stuff or this or that will stunt growth. The hydrated lime I use is 20% magnesium, it's been working great for me 🤷‍♂️ same with the black kow. At this point most of the time I just run my own tests and if it works it works.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wall.E]
    #26886535 - 08/18/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I think pine has something in it that mushrooms don't like





Ya I dont remember the details but something about pine. Salt or ph related dunno. It definitely affected a few hpoo grows I did but they were cubes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #26886542 - 08/18/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Conifer wood contains a lot of resin/acids or something like that, but you can leech that out or let it compost in which case it decomposes. Either way, a little bit won't hurt any grow I think.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #26886543 - 08/18/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hahah i had to look up blackow cause i had no idea and i LOVE their web page:) that cow on the left...
https://www.blackkow.com/where_to_buy


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26886545 - 08/18/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well thats the attitude to have hereigrow lol. That's how shit gets figured out.

And I dont remember exactly what it is but its a chemical in some coniferous pines like in the sap or something. Maybe ill find the resource again, i think it was in growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms but idk


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
    #26886547 - 08/18/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I mean honestly, my first success with pans was by throwing a pile of unpasteurized hay straight from the bale, black kow from the bag and a bit of spawn out on the ground by the side of my house and spraying it with the hose on days it didn't rain. Literally every single person told me I was wasting my time beforehand, but I got daily harvests from those beds for weeks at a time over a couple months. Its stuff like that that makes me just go for it with most stuff ya know? If it fails then it fails and you've learned something 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886551 - 08/18/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24588065#24588065

Again that's cubes:shrug:

Go for it and let us know. If pans dont mind pine shavings it would save me some headaches.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #26886559 - 08/18/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No the cedar/pine bed shavings absolutely cause problems


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886563 - 08/18/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I mean honestly, my first success with pans was by throwing a pile of unpasteurized hay straight from the bale, black kow from the bag and a bit of spawn out on the ground by the side of my house and spraying it with the hose on days it didn't rain. Literally every single person told me I was wasting my time beforehand, but I got daily harvests from those beds for weeks at a time over a couple months. Its stuff like that that makes me just go for it with most stuff ya know? If it fails then it fails and you've learned something 🤷‍♂️




That's the right attitude bro! I couldn't believe how resilient Pans were. My first Bisporus outdoor "grow" (a.k.a. burying a totally contamed piece of sub) was a total mess but the myc somehow survived and pushed out a couple fruitbodies. They will find their niche once in the dirt.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26886564 - 08/18/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Theres not much in there, maybe 10-15%. I'm gonna go for it with the indoor trays. I think for the 2nd bag that I plan to do outside I'll use my good ol straw/black low combo.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886568 - 08/18/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’m not saying you won’t get anything but you won’t pull a canopy, I hate when I get wood in my manure yields drop to 10% of their former glory


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26886570 - 08/18/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to be using 50/50 of my 60/40 hpoo/verm mix and lime pasteurized straw. So honestly in the end the sub will be like =>5%. I really don't think it could cause major problems. I guess if it does I'll learn a lesson and the 7 oat bags of this shit I have is useless 😭😭


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886574 - 08/18/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)


This is what bone dry aged straw fed horse manure looks like. The best I’ve found

Some rain euc about ready for the case


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26886624 - 08/18/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah that's pretty much what mine looked like but with some chunks and like 10-15% wood shavings.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26886640 - 08/18/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I want to say pine needles have turpentine or something like that in them. When I was a kid we had outdoor school one week and the guide had us chew a couple and your mouth goes numb.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #26886841 - 08/18/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Wild coast jar knocked up on 7-2.  Considering spawning it.



It looks like those Halloween cobwebs.

My question is knots or stones?


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