Metoo said:

cannabinated said:

why is there no polling data for racist related values in white ppl

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Not sure if everyone here is aware that the dictionary definition of racism is going to change soon:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/merriam-webster-racism-definition.html

It is funny (in a sad way) that "racism" became a convenient term to slander whoever the left does not agree with and, rather than calling out the abuse of English language, we decided to change the definition.

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Metoo said:

So are you saying that racism cannot exist because we are all the same race? Hallelujah!

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Brian Jones said:

If that worked economically, there would have never been discrimination, would there?

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Brian Jones said:

Are you being intentionally naïve for dramatic effect? (...)

Right wingers are better at money and power. They just aren't very good at knowledge. They only occasionally want to work in the fields that generate social knowledge.

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Enlil said:

Being amish is something that one chooses. That's a completely different thing.  Discrimination on the basis of religion is prejudice.

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No. One does not choose the religion one is born into and it can be dangerous to leave it. Here is the graph showing the percentage of Muslims believing that the penalty for leaving Islam should be death:

Exclusive Bretheren families will disown you if you apostate and other nutters may even employ harrassment and physical threats. If your qualifying test for racism is whether one "chose" being who one is nationality can often be changed easier than religion.

To avoid this mental acrobatics I use the term racism in reference to, well - race.

Brian Jones said:

Right wingers are better at money and power. They just aren't very good at knowledge. They only occasionally want to work in the fields that generate social knowledge.

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Metoo said:

Enlil said:

Being amish is something that one chooses. That's a completely different thing.  Discrimination on the basis of religion is prejudice.

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No. One does not choose the religion one is born into and it can be dangerous to leave it.

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Tantrika said:

Metoo said:

Enlil said:

Being amish is something that one chooses. That's a completely different thing.  Discrimination on the basis of religion is prejudice.

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No. One does not choose the religion one is born into and it can be dangerous to leave it.

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do you recognize life is dangerous for LGBTQ+ individuals born into Evangelical Christian families

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Metoo said:

Brian Jones said:

If that worked economically, there would have never been discrimination, would there?

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Wrong assertion. A free market setup starts with a range of ideas and approaches which then get thinned out by the famous invisible hand and efficient systems are more likely to survive. Free market economy does not guarantee that some players will not come up with suboptimal concepts, only that they are likely to fail over time.

Looking at the current situation what I see is a tremendous racial diversity in the workforce. For example, Indians and Asians are overrepresented in the IT sector, music and entertainment is Black friendly etc. But it gets even better - predominantly white countries like the US build entire factories to employ workers in prediominantly non-white countries like Mexico, China, Thailand. If anything we have racial bias against the predominantly white population of the US here.

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Metoo said:

...the reason conservatives are underrepresented in the social sciences and humanitites is that they are being actively pushed out and purged, not that they do not want to work there.

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Metoo said:

Tantrika said:

do you recognize life is dangerous for LGBTQ+ individuals born into Evangelical Christian families

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I do. In fact any diversion from Evangelical Christianity will cause grief - I have heard similar stories from converts to Buddhism.

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Tantrika said:

Metoo said:

But, since you mentioned it - does discrimination against LGBTQ  constitute racism? After all one did not choose to be born this way and cannot change it?

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Think this is the wrong line of questioning miscomprehending the parameters Enlil laid out

being LGBTQ  is not a race; it is not a cohesive group and is never a large enough group in any one area to confer a total sense of identity -- however, it is an inborn trait that may be masked due to social pressures or dangers where people must pretend to be straight or cis until they get to safety
and interracialism characterizes a lot of relationships within the community

an ethnicity is something people are typically born into, but can willfully change with time and effort
but still fits under the umbrella of racism and racial identity

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