Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Magic-Mushrooms-Shop.com
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]
Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist.
    #2302841 -

(a) (Probably) if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
(b) There are MANY non believers
(c) (Probably) Therefore, God does not exist.


The mystery is probably solved.  Close enough for the girls I go with :lol:


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2302908 -

Many people still don't believe in evolution, despite an overwhelming body of evidence supporting it.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2302919 -

Does the existance of God entail the same things as the validity of evolution. Substitute Evolution and God in premise A. Not the same thing.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2302938 -

for certain anachronistic minds philosophical evidence trumps physical evidence...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303066 -

"(a) (Probably) if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
(b) There are MANY non believers
(c) (Probably) Therefore, God does not exist."
-------------------------------


Why?.. Is the question that pops into my head.

Especially, for point (b).


Solve that answer, and you may perceive (a) and (c) in a different light.


--------------------


Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303081 -

There aren't enough syllables for this to be philosophical evidence. You'll have to re-word it.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303111 -

Evolving, by GOD, you are right!!! Premise A is the most important, so I will reword it.

(a) For one to entertainamalize grand notions such as ontological arguementationalist-esque existamafundory of the quintessential omnipotent being, one must deduce that the numeralation of non believers convergilizes to an infetessimally acute point.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303119 -

:thumbup: That's better.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303120 -

needs more latin

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303141 -

(a) For one to entertainamalize grand notions such as ontological arguementationalist-esque existamafundory of the quintessential omnipotent being, one must deduce that the numeralation of non believers convergilizes to an infetessimally acute point.

:eek:

Whoa.




:shiftyeyes:



Ummmmmm....



Could it be, then, that point (b) happens cause not many are capable [or even interested] of grasping overly-complex language [somewhat typical when some descriptions are delivered]?


--------------------


Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2303143 -

Interesting point, I wonder why religious (and philosophical) texts insist on being so damn dense and obtuse!


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303150 -

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303158 -

Phluck already covered it in this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...amp;o=&vc=1

"The point I was trying to make, was about obfuscation.

Often, people will use complex and confusing language, and others will assume that the person knows what they're talking about. They'll even trust any conclusions that the person has made, after all, they're smarter, and they must know what they're talking about."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303163 -

This is just hearsay, but I remember hearing something about how church officials were upset when the bible was translated into vernacular language (not sure which one) because then people didn't rely on church officials to get the word of GOD.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303166 -

If God is anything...it's the sun. the stars. humans. animals. rocks. planets. water. plants. energy.

God is creation and all-that-is

We create

Therefore,

We are God

Welcome to the intergalactic school of physical incarnation through evolution and transmutation. Please check your ego at the energy desk for approval and file all requests for future incarnations and life lessons at the telepathic archive network. Thank you for your cooperation.

Signed,

Management


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303178 -

whoa! how did this thread get 1600 views so fast?!

I think people are really interested in your evidence! :smile:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303195 -

Quote:
The mystery is probably solved.


That is enough and answers every question.-


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2303220 -

Exactly. Everyone believes in God. Just not everyone uses that word for it.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2303227 -

Quote:
whoa! how did this thread get 1600 views so fast?!

I think people are really interested in your evidence!




Yeah, I noticed that too! Weird huh? Maybe it's a sign from God or something.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303286 -

Who ever said god exists?? God just "is".


--------------------
m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #2303293 -

yeah, just like the way


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303305 -

*whew* At least the thread-viewing count did not stop at 2012. THAT would have been spooky.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Swami]
    #2303315 -

you think this thread got 2600 views in 2 hours?

maybe that's evidence that god doesn't exist eh?


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Swami]
    #2303317 -

it's at 2600 views!!
something's going on...
I demand a full investigation!

I wonder who's linking to this thread?
maybe it's "them" hehe

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2303395 -

2986... and counting..


--------------------


Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2303512 -

This thread broke 4000 in a few hours :wtf:

I'm with shroomism, this must mean God does not exist.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303518 -

... or a bug in the software.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303524 -

yeah, but why a "bug" in this particular thread?  Synchronicity :nut:


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303529 -

God is a four-digit number?


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Swami]
    #2303534 -

No, it's a three letter word.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303535 -

[written ca. 1300 AD]

(A) (Probably) If the earth were round there would be few-believers that it was flat
(B) There ARE many who believe the Earth is flat
(C) (Probably) The earth is therefore flat

sorry but that's the stupidest logic i've ever heard, im not quite sure why i even responded.


--------------------
Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Swami]
    #2303536 -

I would have said four letter word.  Very Good Swami!  That was deserving of a cookie, but since I hang around here so much and go through so many cookies, I am fresh out :lol:


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303538 -

... that rhymes with 'cod.'


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Tao]
    #2303544 -

Silver Soul tried that one already.

Does the earth being flat entail the same thing as the existance of god?


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Tao]
    #2303564 -

TaoTeChing said:
sorry but that's the stupidest logic i've ever heard


That's because you're using a corruption of the abridged version, use more syllables and throw in some Latin.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303772 -

haha with point b there could be aliens that believe in god and in fact we are the few ehh *nudge*


--------------------
Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303880 -

- Post History Deleted Upon User's Request -

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303947 -

actually, belief in a god/gods far outnumber the ones who don't believe/arn't sure...


--------------------
non-corporis being

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2304572 -

Where is this evidence? And what is the definition of 'god' this supposed proof disproves?

If a god is someone/something that knows more about you then you know about yourself could the internet be a kind of god?

well it don't know nothing about me personally, so it's not my god, but it has the answers to so many questions about me as a human. Things I personally would never know... it's an odd thought.

Anyway I'm God and so are all of you, call it something else and the actuality stays the same.

:sun:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: ]
    #2305516 -

Quote:
I found this thread to be hysterically funny!

Ah, you say, but why did you find it humorous?

Answer: I'll never tell.




Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it's funny. :lol:

Now if only we knew what the truth was :lol:

I propose that everyone of us figure out the truth.


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2306197 -

- Post History Deleted Upon User's Request -

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2306543 -

your philosophical "evidence" makes weak assumptions regarding the human condition. back to the drawing boards for you. don't come back with any "(probably)"s.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2306690 -

if God's around, he should get back to work....


--------------------
Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Strumpling]
    #2306957 -

there is no dog.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2307347 -

There is no spoon...


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2307504 -

if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
There are MANY non believers
Therefore, God does not exist.

That is an Invalid Argument.

If A, Then B. (A=God exists B=few non-believers)
Not B.
Not A
---------
I'f I am a cat, then I am an animal. (True)
I'm not a cat. (True)
I'm not an animal (False)
This is the same form as your argument above, which is Invalid/Unsound.

You've proved nothing.


--------------------
AH HA....

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: DrubuShrume]
    #2308034 -

philosophical evidence = mental masturbation

ooh ahh.. yes, that's it! ooo umm yes, of course! mm oooh yes, yes YES!!!
EUREKA!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: DrubuShrume]
    #2308842 -

Quote:
if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
There are MANY non believers
Therefore, God does not exist.

That is an Invalid Argument.

If A, Then B. (A=God exists B=few non-believers)
Not B.
Not A



thank you, thats what i meant by 'stupid logic'.


--------------------
Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Tao]
    #2309775 -

Quote:
thank you, thats what i meant by 'stupid logic'. 



:sad: stooopid


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2309895 -

- Post History Deleted Upon User's Request -

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: ]
    #2310227 -

again part b assumes we are the only ones here.


--------------------
Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: ]
    #2310936 -

Quote:
Hey man, nobody gets them right all the time.




It's okay, this thread was half in jest.  I was really bored the other night and made this thread, then clicked refresh a few thousand times. :lol:

Thanks for the prize :stoned:


--------------------
"Plus one upvote +1..."
--- //
-- :meff:
  /l_l\/
--\-/----

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2312593 -

SpecialEd said:
(a) (Probably) if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
(b) There are MANY non believers
(c) (Probably) Therefore, God does not exist.


The mystery is probably solved.  Close enough for the girls I go with :lol:


To use this as a model as a reference, the person using this model accepts the terms that this model includes the belief that we are capable of understanding the workings of god - Gods existance implies humans perceiving god with one of the 5 senses.  I have cousins in California that I never talk to - I don't perceive them with my 5 senses, yet I believe they exist...  Everyone I know in Canada, hell, the rest of the world, may not believe they exist, but that doesn't cause them to cease to exist..  I know they're still there, and that overrules everyone else.


My two cents.


--------------------
No one knows the worth of innocence till he knows it is gone forever, and that money can't buy it back. Not the saint, but the sinner that repenteth, is he to whom the full length and breadth, and height and depth, of life's meaning is revealed. Good and evil loose all objective meaning and are seen as equally necessary and contrasting elements in the masterpiece that is the universe.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* God Exists
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )		 Zahid 12,518 113 03/18/03 03:57 PM
by falcon
* Dose God exist? Take a look around.
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 Bavet 7,527 67 02/06/03 10:46 AM
by Strumpling
* Does God Exist? part one
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )		 MentalHygene 16,955 126 02/22/02 08:26 PM
by ArCh_TemPlaR
* Does God Exist? (lets get to the point!) MentalHygene 1,182 12 02/08/02 10:19 AM
by Seuss
* it seems therefore, that God does not exist. whiterastahippie 1,888 12 11/11/11 02:01 AM
by thefloodbehind
* Thinking about the nature of God Ellis Dee 2,476 19 03/09/16 06:31 PM
by falcon
* Are you a slave to a God that doesn't exist?
( 1 2 3 all )		 Larrythescaryrex 8,069 42 07/30/02 04:00 PM
by Larrythescaryrex
* do you even care if there is a god?
( 1 2 all )		 Every1ShouldBAble2Post 5,621 20 05/19/01 12:04 AM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
9,929 topic views. 0 members, 102 guests and 19 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.041 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 16 queries.