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OfflineSpecialEd
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Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist.
    #2302841 - 02/04/04 09:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

(a) (Probably) if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
(b) There are MANY non believers
(c) (Probably) Therefore, God does not exist.


The mystery is probably solved.  Close enough for the girls I go with :lol:


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2302908 - 02/04/04 10:14 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Many people still don't believe in evolution, despite an overwhelming body of evidence supporting it.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2302919 - 02/04/04 10:19 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Does the existance of God entail the same things as the validity of evolution. Substitute Evolution and God in premise A. Not the same thing.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2302938 - 02/04/04 10:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

for certain anachronistic minds philosophical evidence trumps physical evidence...

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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303066 - 02/04/04 11:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"(a) (Probably) if God were to exist, there would be few non-believers.
(b) There are MANY non believers
(c) (Probably) Therefore, God does not exist."
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Why?.. Is the question that pops into my head.

Especially, for point (b).


Solve that answer, and you may perceive (a) and (c) in a different light.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303081 - 02/04/04 11:07 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

There aren't enough syllables for this to be philosophical evidence. You'll have to re-word it.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303111 - 02/04/04 11:16 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Evolving, by GOD, you are right!!! Premise A is the most important, so I will reword it.

(a) For one to entertainamalize grand notions such as ontological arguementationalist-esque existamafundory of the quintessential omnipotent being, one must deduce that the numeralation of non believers convergilizes to an infetessimally acute point.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303119 - 02/04/04 11:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup: That's better.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303120 - 02/04/04 11:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

needs more latin

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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303141 - 02/04/04 11:23 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

(a) For one to entertainamalize grand notions such as ontological arguementationalist-esque existamafundory of the quintessential omnipotent being, one must deduce that the numeralation of non believers convergilizes to an infetessimally acute point.

:eek:

Whoa.




:shiftyeyes:



Ummmmmm....



Could it be, then, that point (b) happens cause not many are capable [or even interested] of grasping overly-complex language [somewhat typical when some descriptions are delivered]?


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2303143 - 02/04/04 11:25 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting point, I wonder why religious (and philosophical) texts insist on being so damn dense and obtuse!


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303150 - 02/04/04 11:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303158 - 02/04/04 11:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Phluck already covered it in this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...amp;o=&vc=1

"The point I was trying to make, was about obfuscation.

Often, people will use complex and confusing language, and others will assume that the person knows what they're talking about. They'll even trust any conclusions that the person has made, after all, they're smarter, and they must know what they're talking about."


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Evolving]
    #2303163 - 02/04/04 11:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

This is just hearsay, but I remember hearing something about how church officials were upset when the bible was translated into vernacular language (not sure which one) because then people didn't rely on church officials to get the word of GOD.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303166 - 02/04/04 11:31 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

If God is anything...it's the sun. the stars. humans. animals. rocks. planets. water. plants. energy.

God is creation and all-that-is

We create

Therefore,

We are God

Welcome to the intergalactic school of physical incarnation through evolution and transmutation. Please check your ego at the energy desk for approval and file all requests for future incarnations and life lessons at the telepathic archive network. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303178 - 02/04/04 11:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

whoa! how did this thread get 1600 views so fast?!

I think people are really interested in your evidence! :smile:

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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303195 - 02/04/04 11:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

The mystery is probably solved.




That is enough and answers every question.-


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2303220 - 02/04/04 11:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly. Everyone believes in God. Just not everyone uses that word for it.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2303227 - 02/04/04 11:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

whoa! how did this thread get 1600 views so fast?!

I think people are really interested in your evidence!





Yeah, I noticed that too! Weird huh? Maybe it's a sign from God or something.


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Re: Philosophical evidence that God Probably does not exist. [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2303286 - 02/05/04 12:04 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Who ever said god exists?? God just "is".


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