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OfflinePoetFirst
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Enlightenment
    #2124566 - 11/20/03 10:00 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)


Enlightenment
I'm actively seeking it
Don't need it
Don't believe in it
You can't fool me, I ain't "actively" seeken' nothing, I just meditate...
I am Sir Tokes Alot




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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2124591 - 11/20/03 10:21 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

it's just a word

i don't have the audacity to say I'm enlightenend :lol:

can't say I don't need it either

cant say if I believei n it or not

there is fooling no one jsut yourself

but I do tokes a lot!! not as a sir-name though (get it) yeah lame I know


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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OfflinePoetFirst
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Re: Enlightenment [Re: kaiowas]
    #2124639 - 11/20/03 10:47 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

The Taste of Banzo's Sword

Matajuro Yagyu was the son of a famous swordsman. His father, believing that his son's work was too mediocre to anticipate mastership, disowned him.

So Matajuro went to Mount Futara and there found the famous swordsman Banzo. But Banzo confirmed the father's judgment. "You wish to learn swordsmanship under my guidance?" asked Banzo. "You cannot fulfill the requirements."

"But if I work hard, how many years will it take me to become a master?" persisted the youth.

"The rest of your life," replied Banzo.

"I cannot wait that long," explained Matajuro. "I am willing to pass through any hardship if only you will teach me. If I become your devoted servant, how long might it be?"

"Oh, maybe ten years," Banzo relented.

"My father is getting old, and soon I must take care of him," continued Matajuro. "If I work far more intensively, how long would it take me?"

"Oh, maybe thirty years," said Banzo.

"Why is that?" asked Matajuro. "First you say ten and now thirty years. I will undergo any hardship to master this art in the shortest time!"

"Well," said Banzo, "in that case you will have to remain with me for seventy years. A man in such a hurry as you are to get results seldom learns quickly."

"Very well," declared the youth, understanding at last that he was being rebuked for impatience, "I agree."

Matajuro was told never to speak of fencing and never to touch a sword. He cooked for his master, washed the dishes, made his bed, cleaned the yard, cared for the garden, all without a word of swordsmanship.

Three years passed. Still Matajuro labored on. Thinking of his future, he was sad. He had not even begun to learn the art to which he had devoted his life.

But one day Banzo crept up behind him and gave him a terrific blow with a wooden sword.

The following day, when Matajuro was cooking rice, Banzo again sprang upon him unexpectedly.

After that, day and night, Matajuro had to defend himself from unexpected thrusts. Not a moment passed in any day that he did not have to think of the taste of Banzo's sword.

He learned so rapidly he brought smiles to the face of his master. Matajuro became the greatest swordsman in the land.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2124666 - 11/20/03 11:00 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

:grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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OfflineEvilGir
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Re: Enlightenment [Re: kaiowas]
    #2124703 - 11/20/03 11:23 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

:ooo: :laugh: If you seek Enlightenment then i guess you have got a long wait.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2125019 - 11/20/03 02:15 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

But one day Banzo crept up behind him and gave him a terrific blow with a wooden sword.

So basically, Banzo (no relation to Bozo) was a cruel, sadistic bastard.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: Swami]
    #2125038 - 11/20/03 02:27 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

You may seek enlightenment but at the end it's enlightenment the one who finds you.... the time when the last thing you've been looking for, appears right in from of you :wink: .

MAIA


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: MAIA]
    #2125056 - 11/20/03 02:33 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

> the time when the last thing you've been looking for, appears right in from of you.

... and the realization that you have been looking for something that you have had all along.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: Seuss]
    #2125082 - 11/20/03 02:46 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Yes Seuss, you have that something lost inside but all lost things can be found.... at its time and with an intention.

MAIA


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: MAIA]
    #2125664 - 11/20/03 07:18 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

There's nothing much to enlightenment, just as there is nothing much to water, but it takes a lifetime of study to appreciate the beauty of it.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2125677 - 11/20/03 07:28 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Enlightenment is best looked upon as a process, one can always become enlightened about various things, but there is always more to uncover. Anyone who presents himself as 'enlightened' is either suffering from hubris or is a huckster - grab your wallet and your wife (or your girlfriend) and be prepared to protect your children and the ignorant.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2125746 - 11/20/03 08:20 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

After that, day and night, Matajuro had to defend himself from unexpected thrusts. Not a moment passed in any day that he did not have to think of the taste of Banzo's sword.

He learned so rapidly he brought smiles to the face of his master. Matajuro became the greatest swordsman in the land.




you completely missed the 'punchline' of this story.
insert - the time came that banzo was unable to strike matajuro, due to matajuro's ability to dodge the blows. then banzo called matajuro to him and said 'now that you cannot be hit, you are ready to learn swordplay'.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: PoetFirst]
    #2125763 - 11/20/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

from the book of tokens -
men think they seek me,
but it i who seek them.
no other seeker is there than myself,
and when i find my own,
the pain of questing is at an end.
the fish graspeth the hook,
thinking to find food,
but the fisherman is the enjoyer of the meal.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: mr crisper]
    #2125826 - 11/20/03 08:52 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Banzo,*laugh* I loved that story.

My uncle use to do the same thing to me. Sneak up on me all the time and whack me with something. When I protested about it, he said. " I'm toughening you up." I just thought he was being mean. However, today, no one can sneak up on me and whack me with somehting, I am kinda jumpy from my "training". LOL. So I don't know how "enlightened" I became, but I did learn a lesson in defense. Later.


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: medicinebag]
    #2126196 - 11/20/03 11:32 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

My uncle use to do the same thing to me. Sneak up on me all the time and whack me with something. When I protested about it, he said. " I'm toughening you up." I just thought he was being mean.

And when Swami sneaks up on you and whacks you with words...?


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: Swami]
    #2126204 - 11/20/03 11:35 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Excellent Point Swami,

I will take it into great consideration. Later.


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Offlinebigfatdork
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Re: Enlightenment [Re: medicinebag]
    #2131951 - 11/24/03 10:19 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I thought this might be relevant:

in a seed,in a grain
if he is we are him
then I am you are we he is petty
and destructive
light filtered through an uneven glass
show distorted death of him(our)self
through rebelling thought
over anxious breading synapse spark
and maybe he(sheitusweall)
questions (lotus)


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Re: Enlightenment [Re: bigfatdork]
    #2131958 - 11/24/03 10:24 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

"Enlightenment, for a wave in the ocean, is the moment the wave realizes it is water." - Thich Nhat Hanh.


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