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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Lion]
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I think he's saying exactly what so many people secretly believe, but what they wouldn't dare openly claim or even reluctantly admit. Instead of allowing a holier-than-thou attitude to manifest within, bringing rise to bigotry and arrogance, he is willing to risk sounding like he possesses both these traits in order to share his belief openly with a willingness to face whatever criticism follows. To some degree or another we all harbor this idea of self glory and personal supremacy, but few dare put their ego out on such a limb. And perhaps some are smarter. Just my take on it..


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From dust you are made and to dust you shall return.

Edited by elbisivni (08/20/07 07:27 PM)

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Anyone who is "enlightened" enough would realize this thread is completely tongue in cheek.

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
A tour of Europe...and maybe a tan.


I just got back from touring europe 2 days ago. Does this mean I've been enlightened and by default happened to tour europe after that moment?


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: adrug]
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Enlightenment is often a relative term, and it doesn't require much of it by any standard to know that you see truth. Now, I must say good night for the evening as I have a party to attend with my enlightened friends. Don't worry, I will come back and spread more love and understanding with you less fortunate acquaintances tomorrow.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Gee, thanks!

:smirk:

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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One question before I go:
Many people accept that characters like Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammad were enlightened? They even accept it when they read a book by someone who claims it. One of my favorite authors, Eckhart Tolle, claims this very thing. Why are we willing to buy into the idea that these inaccessible people are enlightened, but see the state (whatever you define it as) unavailable to ourselves...or even our friends and family? Me...I see enlightenment as the journey...the path...and the inevitable straying from it and coming back to center. In this sense I am reaching for it...definitely. It is like breaking out of an infinite egg slowly...bit by bit...seeing the light...a little here ...a little there...


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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It seems like just another type of elitism to me.

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: elbisivni]
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elbisivni said:
I think he's saying exactly what so many people secretly believe, but what they wouldn't dare openly claim or even reluctantly admit.  Instead of allowing a holier-than-thou attitude to manifest within, bringing rise to bigotry and arrogance, he is willing to risk sounding like he possesses both these traits in order to share his belief openly with a willingness to face whatever criticism follows.  To some degree or another we all harbor this idea of self glory and personal supremacy, but few dare put their ego out on such a limb.  And perhaps some are smarter.  Just my take on it..

I agree with this interpretation. I think this post means you're enlightened.  Rad. :cool:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Lion]
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In three months he can test to see if he can get his 2nd degree enlightenment belt.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: jonathanseagull]
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not if I don't get my 1st degree water wings first..


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From dust you are made and to dust you shall return.

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Lion]
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I really thought he was saying that I am full of shit...and he's probably right.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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You know it doesn't matter :smile:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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So if anyone has any questions about enlightenment I may find a moment here to answer them...free of charge for now.


Speak to the connection of beans and flatulence.:mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Icelander]
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I can field that one:

The answer lies within you.  :glittershitz:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Lion]
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:rofl2::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Lion]
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With friends like you, who needs enemas? :tongue:

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Icelander]
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Well, I understand that cooking beans for a long time reduces flatulence, and sprouting them does much the same.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Well then I suggest you start doing that.:hellfire:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Icelander]
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I guess I missed the joke. You must excuse me, though, the comments of the unenlightened sometimes leave me wondering because I have ceased to share their assumptions and self projections, but that is alright because I have come to accept them for who they are.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Questions for the Enlightened [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Joke?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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