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The root of indulgence
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Here is a very powerful quote I have found by Eckhart Tolle. I believe it to have very profound implications for how we conduct our daily lives and it is the core of personal responsibility. As unhappiness, victimization, and suffering seem to stem from allowing the mind to inhabit the past or future instead of maintaining itself in the present.

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Have you ever experienced, done, thought, or felt anything outside the now? Do you think you ever will? Is it possible for anything to happen or be outside the now? The answer is obvious, is it not? Nothing ever happened in the past; it happened in the now. Nothing will ever happen in the future; it will happen in the now. What you think of as the past is a memory trace, stored in the mind, of a former now. When you remember the past, you reactivate a memory trace - and you do so now. The future is an imagined now, a projection of the mind. When the future comes, it comes as the now. When you think about the future, you do it now. Past and future obviously have no reality of their own. Just as the moon has no light of its own, but can only reflect the light of the sun, so are past and future only pale reflections of the light, power, and reality of the eternal present. Their reality is borrowed from the now.



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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I just finished reading his book, The Power of Now, which is probably where that quote came from.  Excellent book, IMO. :thumbup:

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: belligerent]
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You are correct. I have been working with the techniques inside that book for several weeks and I feel that I have derived benefit from them. I believe that Tolle has defined a direct path to personal power. They are excellent for dealing with indulgence and self importance. I don't really believe his life after death theories, as they are speculation and ...of course...not rooted in the now, but he is entitled to them. His main concept in the book, though, is one of great power.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Ahh, that is a good quote.

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Here is a very powerful quote I have found by Eckhart Tolle. I believe it to have very profound implications for how we conduct our daily lives and it is the core of personal responsibility. As unhappiness, victimization, and suffering seem to stem from allowing the mind to inhabit the past or future instead of maintaining itself in the present.



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Have you ever experienced, done, thought, or felt anything outside the now? Do you think you ever will? Is it possible for anything to happen or be outside the now? The answer is obvious, is it not? Nothing ever happened in the past; it happened in the now. Nothing will ever happen in the future; it will happen in the now. What you think of as the past is a memory trace, stored in the mind, of a former now. When you remember the past, you reactivate a memory trace - and you do so now. The future is an imagined now, a projection of the mind. When the future comes, it comes as the now. When you think about the future, you do it now. Past and future obviously have no reality of their own. Just as the moon has no light of its own, but can only reflect the light of the sun, so are past and future only pale reflections of the light, power, and reality of the eternal present. Their reality is borrowed from the now.




That was the last page I read before bed last night. How interesting.:mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Icelander]
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Omen


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Amen


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
You are correct. I have been working with the techniques inside that book for several weeks and I feel that I have derived benefit from them. I believe that Tolle has defined a direct path to personal power. They are excellent for dealing with indulgence and self importance. I don't really believe his life after death theories, as they are speculation and ...of course...not rooted in the now, but he is entitled to them. His main concept in the book, though, is one of great power.


True, that was one of a couple of things I didn't quite agree with.  The concept of menstrual pain being caused by the collective oppression of females also seemed a little wacky to me. :lol:

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: belligerent]
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I'm not so sure he's wrong about that.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Icelander]
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You're male, right?

Nothing personal, but I've noticed that men have a very different perception of menstruation than most women do. 

It seems to be more of a mysterious, or even spiritual thing to guys, but it's really a pretty routine biological function.  When you think about what is actually going on in a woman's body during her period, it makes perfect sense that there would be cramps, bloating, and irritability (caused by hormonal changes, not some pent up female pain).

That's just me, though.  Maybe other women have a more mystical experience each month. :shrug:

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: belligerent]
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My partner has no pain or negative symptoms of any kind during her menstrual cycle. In many third world cultures this is also the common experience according to studies I have read. Yet in this culture it is a common problem. Diet and being overweight could be a major factor, along with the psychological pressures such as sexual repression etc.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Icelander]
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For what it's worth, I rarely have any pain and never have noticed any unusual irritability.  I was commenting more on the majority of women than on my own experience.

I'd bet that diet, exercise, and overall health have an awful lot to do with how the body is able to handle menstruation.  Most of the women I know who have "bad" periods are overweight and generally lead unhealthy lives.

(I didn't really intend to debate menstruation in this thread. :lol:  I just thought Tolle was reaching a bit with his concept of the "female pain-body".)

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Re: The root of indulgence [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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He's dead on accurate in his ideas.

Another quote that I've heard, yet it was from a friend of a friend, not an author: "This moment."

Those two words made me realize that we should not dwell on the pass nor should we keep fascinating our potential futures, after all, we really have no idea what is going to happen within the next few seconds of our lives.

One minute you could be perfectly safe, healthy. Two minutes later your brains could be painted all over your bedroom walls due to a gunshot fired by a burglar.

All we have is the now, this moment. It's amazing how much it changes your view on life. You stop quibbling over trivial matters and you realize just how fragile life is, because life only comes once.

When I was in 5th grade, my father passed away. Before his death he had designed a picture that included two photos of me standing on train tracks with a poem he had written placed next to the photos.

The poem reads: "Life...like a train moving down the tracks, once it passes it doesn't come back. Choice...a gift from God to chart your path, to see the track you're on and do the math. It's your life..."

That poem has had a profound effect on my life, perhaps some of you will glean the same reward from it.

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