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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: tahoe]
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*prays for rain*


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
those are the fibs!


I'll send 50 bucks to the Shroomery via paypal if anyone can prove the ones we get in the bay Area are psilocybe cayanofibrillosa

like I said last year, I'll eat my shorts if they are fibs..or should I say my shoe?

it's happened before with a movie director you know, proven wrong..Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe 1980  (available on dvd as an extra on another Criterion Collection rls

ref > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081746/

yep, he ate his shoe allright


edit > or, if they do eventually fall into the category of cyanofibrillosa, then the ID key MUST be updated, to differentiate the Washington variety from the California variety...One or the other

you folks can go your own way on this, and that;s fine, but I personally will not stand for that at all..I will not support it..there are too many differences for me to be comfortable with it

for the simple, basic, fact, that, you cannot apply the ID key and definition of psilocybe cyanofibrillosa, and apply it to the San Francisco bay area and expect that to be 100%


it will never happen, I'm telling you


Look, I respect MJ immensly....I look up to him just like alot of people...For the most part, and I mean 99% of the time, MJ is the guy to listen to for identification of species...he knows his shit


except for this new stuff in San Francisco...this is a whole new ballgame


edit  > there is ZERO scientific evidence that compels me to accept cyanofibrillosa as this new species here in San Francisco ( as a human generated name, at least)

far from it...the ones in washington look waaay different to me, and that's why I can't accept the current argument on it....This tells me you're not out there in the wild, crawling through the bush like some of us

me myself...I had no problem with it all along...hehe  :laugh:

Edited by auweia (12/29/06 11:44 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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Hi auweia,
I was just wondering if there was a microscopic description of these unidentified mushrooms?
I have viewed Workmans microscopy composite which is excellent but would like to see some measurements of the microscopic details so that I can compare them with some of my unidentified finds from NZ.
inski.


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: inski]
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how about psilocybe cayanofibrillosa var. san francisco? is that better? until they get named or some legitimate paperwork is done on them I will just call them fibs. This thread is a disaster.
Workman, let me know what you need


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: tahoe]
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I think there is a paper being published soon...I think I saw a reference to it somewhere, but not sure where I saw it. Peter Werner is involved and I think he said he can't talk about it until it comes out due to contract?...not sure...If I see that again I'll post it

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: tahoe]
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I'll be doing more detailed studies of the samples with measured structures. The composites are more of a condensed preview of each species for quick comparisions and are somewhat lacking for taxonomic purposes. But I can do them relatively quickly and I think they are pretty.

Tahoe, send whatever you want worked up. I have no specific needs at this time.


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: CureCat]
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Hey Guys,
I got a bunch of tuberias the other day in GGP. It was a bummer 'cause I thought just maybe they were the beloved cyans... but a very rusty brown spore print. So, those are history.
I did get one other muchroom in the same location. It was a grassy, mulchy area surrounded by several Eucalyptus trees. This mushrrom appears to be another species... same wavy cap, but a lighter colored stalk and some bruising which is to some extent blue, but also quite black. The specimin was quite dry when I found it and hence, is giving me a very scanty spore print. It's been on white paper for about 48 hours and the little smudge of a print I am getting looks to be purple ish brown... just what I was hoping for. I'm very tempted to eat it. The taxonomic cues are compelling. But, I wish it were more blue staining and less black staining. I also wish I could get a more substantial spore print out of it to be sure... Do any of you guys have any advice?
p.s. I wish my camera did not have issues so I could post some pics.
Thanks

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: blueshaman]
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it could possibly..maybe, be a cyan.who knows? try moistening the cap so it retains as much water as possible. usually that helps in the process of taking a spore print.

these are my finds from yesterday in ggp after about 2 hours. is it dry out there or is it just me?








actually the one at top is from the east bay. if anyone has any tips for east bay hunting, much appreciated. pm.


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Edited by burtonRebel (12/30/06 07:33 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: burtonRebel]
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Yeah ... pretty dry. But, that doesn't seem to have stopped you from scoring well... that's a nice fu*@ing collection, man! Would you be willing to pass on a few tips for picking in the GGP? I'm sure I will find more eventually. I just need to get more established on the 'trail'...
Also, I will moisten the cap on my dry, blue guy and see if I can get a decent spore print. I have a feeling its a cyan. Judging by your pics it's not out of the ordinary for them to get kinda blackish in addition to getting blue...

Edited by shivarasta (12/30/06 08:31 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: blueshaman]
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tips?....you bushwhack, you get in there and go off trail and you look really hard at the ground, the foliage, underneath and around it.

you get scratches from going through the bush...your shoes get wet and dirty...well, maybe not wet cause it's so damn dry right now!!!

you spend half the day looking so hard at grass and woodchips and plants that you think you're seeing double, and then you might see a little white or brown spot hiding under there


hey here's a little update on taxonomy..there's something out of the University of Toronto that includes psilocybe..this is something referenced on the wiki page > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe

direct PDF > http://www.botany.utoronto.ca/faculty/moncalvo/117clade.pdf

there are indeed some classification changes going on. I still can't find the exact reference, but Peter linked this somewhere and said there's another paper coming out soon

also this one http://www.mushroomexpert.com/strophariaceae.html

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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from Golden Gate Park, San Francisco...today!

basically confirming shivarasta (even tho I never met the guy...it doesn't matter, it's the same city, and the same huge park)...it's true, and you folks who keep trying to get clues from the photos some of us posted instead of going out there in the bush and getting dirty, hungry and scratched, and looking yourself...and getting your own spots...shame on you

shame shame shame

as you can see, some of these are really dried up and in no condition to be identified by amateurs...some are tho....if you can't see it, you're not looking hard enough

also, one photo of deadly conocybe filaris in there, can you tell wich one?









also a few supplemental photos


huge fruiting of I don't know what


and what is this one?..these are most common right now in the thick grass of GGP

Edited by auweia (12/30/06 11:53 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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ooops, double post, sorry

Edited by auweia (12/30/06 10:55 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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"also, one photo of deadly conocybe filaris in there, can you tell wich one?"

Is it the one in left row in the middle?


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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"also, one photo of deadly conocybe filaris in there, can you tell wich one?"

Is it the one in left row in the middle?


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nnnNNNNnnnnnnnnssSHREDDEEERRRR!!!

FAHKFACE VERY OWN PICTURED STRAIN LIBRARY

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HOW TO UPLOAD PICTURES FROM YOUR HARD DRIVE: TUTORIAL

EASY WOOD LOVER CULTIVATION TEK


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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"also, one photo of deadly conocybe filaris in there, can you tell wich one?"

Is it the one in left row in the middle?


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nnnNNNNnnnnnnnnssSHREDDEEERRRR!!!

FAHKFACE VERY OWN PICTURED STRAIN LIBRARY

STRAINLIST

HOW TO UPLOAD PICTURES FROM YOUR HARD DRIVE: TUTORIAL

EASY WOOD LOVER CULTIVATION TEK


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: blueshaman]
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ts the last pic. iv been finding those too. beware


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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: notapillow]
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yep, it's this one


yeah, be careful of those..they are right in there with the actives

dead ringers, man

Edited by auweia (12/31/06 02:15 PM)

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
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I went on an hour and a half hunt in GGP today. Was finding pretty much nothing but I took some kind of cool pictures that I might upload later. Anyway, I was losing hope toward the end, thinking that it was hopeless because after my first two weeks of pretty regular hunting I had found no actives when BOOM, right by the side of the road in the most obvious spot I see a rather big patch of cyans!! I didn't get a picture of the patch because I was so excited after finding them I just picked them as fast as I could and got the hell out of there but they were kind of buried underneath a lot of grass growing on some mulch near a couple trees.

Here's a pic of them drying... I have them set on a newspaper under a lamp with a fan blowing on them, is that sufficient?



Yeah I know, I pulled them up instead of using scissors. This was my first time picking, and I promise from here on out I'll always bring a pair to cut them without damaging the mycelium.

Anyways... YES! I'm just so damned happy. This has been one of the best New Year's Eves ever. It's only a matter of time now till my first trip... I'll keep you guys posted. :wink:


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Don't assault your mycelium with peroxide.  That's like throwing acid in your girlfriends face just to see if it sizzles.

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: goodolgoogy]
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nice finds! wish i have finds like that on tuesday. i havent found anything yet at ggp

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Re: Official Fall 2006 Winter 2007 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: never_2_high]
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Thanks. You just have to keep looking, never give up.


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